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Investigation into the Soyuz MS-10 launch accidentAccording to Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, quoted by TASS, the emergency escape system was activated at T+123 seconds in flight. If this is correct, the escape began after the separation of the emergency rockets and the first stage. There were also reports claiming T+119 and T+122 seconds as the moment of activation for the emergency escape process. At the time, the vehicle was flying at an altitude of around 50 kilometers.Head of emergency services in Kazakhstan Vladimir Bekker was quoted by RIA Novosti news agency as saying that 24 Russian teams had been dispatched to search for debris from the accident. Bekker said that there had been no reports of injuries or property damage from the accident, which had taken place away from populated areas.The agency also quoted industry sources as saying that telemetry analysis had pointed toward possible pyrotechnics separation problem between the first and second stage. According to industry sources quoted on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum, the pressurization membrane on one of the strap-on boosters of the first stage failed to open as scheduled to push it away from the second stage during separation and it led to the collision of the empty booster with the firing second stage and damaging or pushing it off course.Following the "avariya" (accident) signal, which was displayed on the crew's console inside Soyuz, four RDG solid motors on the payload fairing protecting the spacecraft were activated automatically and separated the retrievable payload section, OGB, including the Descent Module with the crew and the Habitation Module, from the rest of the rocket at T+122 seconds. Next, at T+160 seconds, the Descent Module was separated from the OGB stack and the capsule then entered a free fall, heading for reentry into the Earth's atmosphere. Around that time, the crew (on the advice from mission control), activated the ballistic descent mode. The successful touchdown took place around half an hour after liftoff, NASA officials said. However, mission control in Houston had some period of communications blockout, which apparently racked some nerves.
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Latest including a report of telemetry analysis findings from the initial review of data:http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms-10.htmlQuoteInvestigation into the Soyuz MS-10 launch accidentAccording to Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, quoted by TASS, the emergency escape system was activated at T+123 seconds in flight. If this is correct, the escape began after the separation of the emergency rockets and the first stage. There were also reports claiming T+119 and T+122 seconds as the moment of activation for the emergency escape process. At the time, the vehicle was flying at an altitude of around 50 kilometers.Head of emergency services in Kazakhstan Vladimir Bekker was quoted by RIA Novosti news agency as saying that 24 Russian teams had been dispatched to search for debris from the accident. Bekker said that there had been no reports of injuries or property damage from the accident, which had taken place away from populated areas.The agency also quoted industry sources as saying that telemetry analysis had pointed toward possible pyrotechnics separation problem between the first and second stage. According to industry sources quoted on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum, the pressurization membrane on one of the strap-on boosters of the first stage failed to open as scheduled to push it away from the second stage during separation and it led to the collision of the empty booster with the firing second stage and damaging or pushing it off course.
Investigation into the Soyuz MS-10 launch accidentAccording to Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, quoted by TASS, the emergency escape system was activated at T+123 seconds in flight. If this is correct, the escape began after the separation of the emergency rockets and the first stage. There were also reports claiming T+119 and T+122 seconds as the moment of activation for the emergency escape process. At the time, the vehicle was flying at an altitude of around 50 kilometers.Head of emergency services in Kazakhstan Vladimir Bekker was quoted by RIA Novosti news agency as saying that 24 Russian teams had been dispatched to search for debris from the accident. Bekker said that there had been no reports of injuries or property damage from the accident, which had taken place away from populated areas.The agency also quoted industry sources as saying that telemetry analysis had pointed toward possible pyrotechnics separation problem between the first and second stage. According to industry sources quoted on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum, the pressurization membrane on one of the strap-on boosters of the first stage failed to open as scheduled to push it away from the second stage during separation and it led to the collision of the empty booster with the firing second stage and damaging or pushing it off course.
Quote from: jcm on 10/11/2018 05:46 pmWow 34 minutes is much longer that I would expect. Would be good to query and get confirmation on that figure.There's quite a bit of vertical velocity built up at this point that has to be zeroed out by gravity before the capsule begins its descent. If the incident happened at 50km, what would the apogee be? I have no idea but would imagine it to be quite a bit higher.
Wow 34 minutes is much longer that I would expect. Would be good to query and get confirmation on that figure.
Quote from: abaddon on 10/11/2018 06:00 pmQuote from: jcm on 10/11/2018 05:46 pmWow 34 minutes is much longer that I would expect. Would be good to query and get confirmation on that figure.There's quite a bit of vertical velocity built up at this point that has to be zeroed out by gravity before the capsule begins its descent. If the incident happened at 50km, what would the apogee be? I have no idea but would imagine it to be quite a bit higher.I am guessing around 80 km. I could see 5 min coast to apogee and back to entry; going a lot slower thanan orbit entry, but it's true it takes about 20 min from entry to landing normally. So I could see 25 minor even 30 min but 34 min seems really long.
I think we can see the launch abort system firing here:At exactly 3:41, you see a short flash in front of the rocket. For best effect, pause the video and then use the comma key and period key on your keyboard to move frame-by-frame.They then cut to the interior, which I think might be a few seconds behind the exterior short. Everything is fine inside and then it all starts going crazy, with a lot of video break up. I think that was when the LAS fired.
Updates only from this point please.
UPDATES ONLY HERE PLEASE. Here are links to a few relevant discussion threads:FAILURE: Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur (DISCUSSION)https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46546.0Implications of Soyuz MS-10 launch failure on ISS, crew rotation,Commercial Crewhttps://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46541.0SpaceX Falcon 9 / Dragon 2 : SpX-DM1 : Jan. 2019 : General Threadhttps://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36966.msg1866153#msg1866153Commercial Crew Schedule Analysishttps://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37802.msg1866098#msg1866098EDIT: added new discussion thread, thanks Norm38
