Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Crew Dragon In-Flight Abort Test : Jan. 19, 2020 : Discussion  (Read 366133 times)

Offline Johnnyhinbos

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Also - I know they said no FTS on this, but boy that sure looked like they unzipped it... Pretty spectacular! Humbling regardless to think of humans riding that much energy.


And comforting to see how they would have been able to get away! The Dragon really had some giddy-up.
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The announcers seemed to anticipate the drogue deployment for a long time, discussing a "drogue deployment window" or somesuch.  Perhaps that timing could explain the shorter time to splashdown than expected. 

 - Ed Kyle
« Last Edit: 01/19/2020 03:17 pm by edkyle99 »

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I wonder which part of F9 survived... The object falling that was shown in Everyday Astronaut stream seemed to be an intact part of F9 that exploded on impact when it hit the water at terminal velocity.

Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

But I guess I could see a scenario where interstage "airscoop" caused the second stage to rupture and caused that fireball while first stage just barreled through all that and eventually hit the water.

Something probably worth asking at the post-launch presser maybe?
« Last Edit: 01/19/2020 03:06 pm by Jarnis »

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The two mannequins appear dressed in black attires

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Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

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I thought this when I watched it live, then went back and watched it again and still think the same thing...

I'm not convinced that the main chutes fully unreefed. Visually it didn't look like they fully opened, the capsule landed ahead of anticipated time, and Jon said the they would go to reef position 3 and I only saw two unreefing events, not three.

I'm solo certified in skydiving so at least have a small inkling of what to look for.

I hope I'm wrong. Probably am.

Looking back at stream and all looked nominal from my untrained eyes on the 4 chute configurations deployment.  See 24 min in stream - you can seem them slowly unfurling to full deployment. 

Good stuff!

Edit: Links to explosions pics in update thread
« Last Edit: 01/19/2020 03:14 pm by ShaunML09 »

Offline Wolfram66

The two mannequins appear dressed in black attires

Is it my imagination or are the 2 seats different? White and black w/armrest  on the left. All black w/ no separate arm rest on right. Possible that they are row 1 and row 2 seats?

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I find it curious that the "Dragon Specs" still noted the crew capacity as 7 people (?), thought it had be modified (at NASA's direction) to four due to constraints created by seat angle modifications...???
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Wow, John Kraus got a photo of the part that hit the water.

« Last Edit: 01/19/2020 03:19 pm by Jarnis »

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Wow, John Kraus got a photo of the part that hit the water.
The actual part before impact:
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1218927117443969025/

Looks like S2+Interstage.
« Last Edit: 01/19/2020 03:37 pm by Chris Bergin »

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Wow, John Kraus got a photo of the part that hit the water.
The actual part before impact:
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1218927117443969025/photo/2

Looks like S2+Interstage.

Yeah and rewatching the SpaceX webcast, John Insprucker confirmed the loss of telemetry on 1st stage.

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Wow, John Kraus got a photo of the part that hit the water.
The actual part before impact:
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1218927117443969025

Looks like S2+Interstage.

fixed?

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Offline CyndyC

Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

I think someone said awhile back that the second stage would be unfueled
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Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

I thought someone said awhile back that the second stage would be unfueled

Fully fueled, regular S2 just no MVac engine.

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Well, I'll accept the accusation of jumping the gun and just say: "Dragon, you are go for orbit!" 8)
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Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

I think someone said awhile back that the second stage would be unfueled

"Test like you fly". It was missing a proper MVac engine, carried a mass simulator instead.

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Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

I thought someone said awhile back that the second stage would be unfueled

I recall hearing fueling callouts on the net prior to launch which mentioned the second stage.  I believe it had propellant.
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Logically one would assume that the aerodynamic forces would rip apart the larger part (stage 1) and that is what we saw blow up and fully intact, fully fueled second stage is what hit the water.

My money's on that.

I thought someone said awhile back that the second stage would be unfueled

I recall hearing fueling callouts on the net prior to launch which mentioned the second stage.  I believe it had propellant.

Also frosting visible on the SpaceX youtube stream. The stage was fueled.

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