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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #140 on: 05/21/2021 10:04 pm »
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/05/abl-joining-market-growing-contracts/

The only new information I'm seeing here is the plan to use LP-3B at PSC-A and LC-48 at KSC. The latter is a little odd, because I'd previously heard of them having plans to fly from SLC-46 at CCSFS, but then again they seem to have switched from SLC-8 to LC-576E at VAFB, so it certainly wouldn't be unprecedented for them to change their mind on this sort of thing.

Oh, and there's a reference to Astra's Rocket 3 having a max payload capacity to LEO of 150 kg, contra to their recently-updated page saying they offer payload services up to 500 kg to LEO (but not saying those services are provided by Rocket 3 specifically). But that's Astra, not ABL.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #141 on: 06/03/2021 03:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/fccspace/status/1400466100106653708?s=21

Looks like an application for a telemetry test.  They’re still ticking away.
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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #142 on: 08/13/2021 01:50 am »
Telemetry test in Kodiak in September or October
https://fcc.report/ELS/ABL-Space-Systems-Company/1319-EX-ST-2021
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ABL Space Systems is requesting an STA to transmit telemetry data from a transmitter on the ground to receiver assets at Pacific Spaceport Complex. This will be a brief, one-time test that will verify our transmitters compatibility with launch range assets. There will be no other launch vehicle-related hardware involved in this test.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #143 on: 09/16/2021 03:13 pm »
[Space News] ABL Space Systems to launch NASA technology demonstration mission
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ABL Space Systems said Sept. 16 it will launch the NASA Cryogenic Demonstration Mission spacecraft on its RS1 rocket in 2023
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ABL had been working toward a first launch of its RS1 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California this year. Piemont said that the company now plans to perform its first RS1 launch before the end of this year from Pacific Spaceport Complex Alaska on Kodiak Island.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #144 on: 09/16/2021 03:38 pm »
[Space News] ABL Space Systems to launch NASA technology demonstration mission
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ABL Space Systems said Sept. 16 it will launch the NASA Cryogenic Demonstration Mission spacecraft on its RS1 rocket in 2023
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ABL had been working toward a first launch of its RS1 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California this year. Piemont said that the company now plans to perform its first RS1 launch before the end of this year from Pacific Spaceport Complex Alaska on Kodiak Island.

Notably, this Tipping Point demonstration mission had been contracted to fly on a Relativity Space Terran 1 rocket, but it sounds like it's shifting over to ABL's RS1. Not sure what that says about Relativity Space, or if they were only involved due to Momentus' involvement and when they got pulled, so did Relativity.

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« Reply #145 on: 09/16/2021 04:27 pm »
[Space News] ABL Space Systems to launch NASA technology demonstration mission
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ABL Space Systems said Sept. 16 it will launch the NASA Cryogenic Demonstration Mission spacecraft on its RS1 rocket in 2023
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ABL had been working toward a first launch of its RS1 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California this year. Piemont said that the company now plans to perform its first RS1 launch before the end of this year from Pacific Spaceport Complex Alaska on Kodiak Island.

Notably, this Tipping Point demonstration mission had been contracted to fly on a Relativity Space Terran 1 rocket, but it sounds like it's shifting over to ABL's RS1. Not sure what that says about Relativity Space, or if they were only involved due to Momentus' involvement and when they got pulled, so did Relativity.
LM is one of ABL's investors and biggest customers having purchased a block buy of +25 launches.

LM was also an investor in RL, for which they've made a nice profit.



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« Last Edit: 09/16/2021 04:29 pm by TrevorMonty »

Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #146 on: 09/16/2021 07:05 pm »
There's also in image of, of all things, the inside of the RS1 first stage (presumably oxygen) tank. There's a slightly absurd number of little (presumably pressurant?) tanks for some reason.

EDIT: Also, first launch moved from Vandenburg to Kodiak.
« Last Edit: 09/16/2021 08:50 pm by JEF_300 »
Wait, ∆V? This site will accept the ∆ symbol? How many times have I written out the word "delta" for no reason?

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #147 on: 09/16/2021 08:08 pm »
[Space News] ABL Space Systems to launch NASA technology demonstration mission
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ABL Space Systems said Sept. 16 it will launch the NASA Cryogenic Demonstration Mission spacecraft on its RS1 rocket in 2023
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ABL had been working toward a first launch of its RS1 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California this year. Piemont said that the company now plans to perform its first RS1 launch before the end of this year from Pacific Spaceport Complex Alaska on Kodiak Island.

Notably, this Tipping Point demonstration mission had been contracted to fly on a Relativity Space Terran 1 rocket, but it sounds like it's shifting over to ABL's RS1. Not sure what that says about Relativity Space, or if they were only involved due to Momentus' involvement and when they got pulled, so did Relativity.
Per the linked article, it sounds like the launch vehicle change was driven by LM dropping Momentus.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #148 on: 09/16/2021 09:16 pm »
There's also in image of, of all things, the inside of the RS1 first stage (presumably oxygen) tank. There's a slightly absurd number of little (presumably pressurant?) tanks for some reason.

EDIT: Also, first launch moved from Vandenburg to Kodiak.

May be they want to ensure they don't run out of helium the first flight and get a better idea of the actual helium usage during flight? Or the off chance, they aren't running the helium through a HEX?

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #149 on: 10/01/2021 08:39 pm »
1599-EX-ST-2021

NET November from Kodiak to 350km circular orbit (which matches the recent article)

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #150 on: 10/12/2021 09:54 pm »
At a symposium on Oct. 5 they said they're still intending to launch this year.

Today SEOPS made a tweet about looking forward to the ABL launch at the end of the year.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #151 on: 10/21/2021 07:43 am »
I noticed this movement above launch pad 3C at the Pacific Spaceport Complex. Astra's pad is the one just to the left in the gif.
Could this be for ABL?

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #152 on: 10/21/2021 02:02 pm »
ABL listed 3C as their pad on the FCC permit

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #153 on: 10/21/2021 02:56 pm »
Huh, this old article suggested LP-3B, although "suggested" is as far as it goes, the more-recent FCC permit would trump it.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #154 on: 10/25/2021 04:23 pm »
75 launches on order, $375 million invested. Wow!
https://spacenews.com/abl-space-systems-raises-200-million/

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« Reply #155 on: 10/25/2021 06:27 pm »
75 launches on order, $375 million invested. Wow!
https://spacenews.com/abl-space-systems-raises-200-million/
They just need to overcome that small detail of getting something orbit.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #156 on: 10/25/2021 07:21 pm »
What is their differentiator from the growing crop of small launchers?

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #157 on: 10/25/2021 07:50 pm »
Similar conops to Astra, with much higher payload capacity than Astra/Rocket Lab/Virgin Orbit.  A bit more expensive than those companies.

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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #158 on: 10/26/2021 12:44 am »
Similar conops to Astra, with much higher payload capacity than Astra/Rocket Lab/Virgin Orbit.  A bit more expensive than those companies.
1350kg to LEO competiting directly with Firefly Alpha and Relativity Terran1.

No mention of RLV version or large LV,  both are likely to be in pipeline given extra funding.


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Re: ABL Space Systems: General Thread
« Reply #159 on: 10/28/2021 10:19 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1453821717659455495
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ABL Space will take over a processing facility at Long Beach Port previously occupied by Sea Launch. Company says "Maritime operations are key to scaling our launch capabilities globally."

https://polb.com/port-info/news-and-press/port-of-long-beach-attracts-another-space-tech-tenant-10-28-2021/

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PORT OF LONG BEACH ATTRACTS ANOTHER SPACE TECH TENANT
October 28, 2021
ABL SPACE SYSTEMS WILL MANUFACTURE, STORE LAUNCH VEHICLES, SATELLITES
The Long Beach Board of Harbor Commissioners on Thursday approved an agreement with ABL Space Systems to build a spacecraft processing facility at the Port of Long Beach and use waterfront area for the delivery and shipping of its cargo.

Founded in 2017, El Segundo-based ABL Space Systems will take over 8.06 acres of land and 1.31 acres of submerged land at the Navy Mole on the Port’s Pier T, which was formerly part of the Long Beach Naval Station.

“We welcome ABL Space Systems to the Port of Long Beach family. It’s exciting to add yet another tenant in the rapidly growing spacecraft technology industry,” said Long Beach Harbor Commission President Steven Neal. “We look forward to what we know will be a mutually beneficial relationship with our newest tenant.”

“This is an innovative company, on the cutting edge of private spacecraft technology, offering wider access to space,” said Port of Long Beach Executive Director Mario Cordero. “We’re very pleased to provide this land to ABL Space Systems.”

Thursday’s agreement comes five months after the Port of Long Beach agreed to lease a site to SpaceX, adjacent to what will now become the ABL Space Systems site. SpaceX uses its site as a marine terminal for its West Coast rocket recovery operations.

Included in the five-year lease is a 41,228 square-foot integration and payload processing facility, 14,629-square-foot warehouse space, and a 25,250-square-foot office space. This location, previously occupied by Sea Launch, will be used by ABL for a wide range of operations, including vehicle processing, payload integration, and maritime operations that support the company’s global network of launch facilities.

“This site is highly strategic for our growth,” said Harry O’Hanley, CEO of ABL Space Systems. “Maritime operations are key to scaling our launch capabilities globally. We’ll also re-activate the old Sea Launch payload processing facility to handle spacecraft of almost any size.”

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