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Buzz Aldrin, Apollo 11 Astronaut

Tory Bruno, President and CEO of United Launch Alliance

Wes Bush, CEO of Northrop Grumman

Dean Cheng, Scholar at the Heritage Foundation

Eileen Collins, 4-time Shuttle astronaut, first female shuttle commander

Steve Crisafulli, Former Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives

Mary Lynne Dittmar, President and CEO of The Coalition for Deep Space Exploration 

Adm. Jim Ellis, Retired 4-star Admiral, former head of STRATCOM, and member of the Space Foundation Board of Directors

Tim Ellis, CEO of Relativity Space

Newt Gingrich, Author, former Speaker of the House

Marillyn Hewson, CEO of Lockheed Martin Corporation

Homer Hickam, Author of the book “Rocket Boys” and former NASA Marshall Spaceflight Center engineer

Governor Kay Ivey, Governor of Alabama

Fred Klipsch, Founder and Chairman of Hoosiers for Quality Education

Les Lyles, Retired 4-star Air Force General and member of the NASA Advisory Council

Pam Melroy, 3-time Shuttle astronaut and former Deputy Director of the Tactical Technology Office at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

Dennis Muilenburg, CEO of the Boeing Company

Fatih Ozmen, CEO of the Sierra Nevada Corporation

G.P. Bud Peterson, President of the Georgia Institute of Technology

Jack Schmitt, Apollo 17 Astronaut and former Senator

Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX

Bob Smith, CEO of Blue Origin

Eric Stallmer, President of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation

David Thompson, Founder and CEO of Orbital ATK

Pamela Vaughan, Board Certified Science Teacher

Mandy Vaughn, President of VOX Launch Company

Stu Witt, Founder of Mojave Air and Spaceport, former Navy pilot, former Chairman of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation

David Wolf, 4-time Shuttle astronaut and physician

Pete Worden, Former Air Force General and NASA Ames Center Director

https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/white-house-announces-members-of-national-space-council-users-advisory-group/
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Look who wasn't invited to the party... ???
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Look who wasn't invited to the party... ???

Who in particular?
Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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Look who wasn't invited to the party... ???

Who in particular?
Anyone from the company that lands rockets... Maybe you've heard of them?
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Look who wasn't invited to the party... ???

Who in particular?
Anyone from the company that lands rockets... Maybe you've heard of them?

GS is there.  EM is too busy.
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Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX
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On the list

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Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX
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On the list
Thank's all! Need to get reading glasses for using the computer now, sucks getting old... :(
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Look who wasn't invited to the party... ???

Yeah, I noticed that too. No one from Aerojet Rocketdyne.

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Trump to address National Space Council from WH any moment now...
https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
« Last Edit: 06/18/2018 04:00 pm by Rocket Science »
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Did someone give him the wrong speech? ???
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He dosen't care much for ULA... Oops..
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Playing the "national security card" again and pushing the Space Force...
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the comment about not caring if it was commercial or government making it to Mars first was interesting
Tried to tell you, we did.  Listen, you did not.  Now, screwed we all are.

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Wow, is Trump really saying this? His (presumably) impromptu comments are incredible.

'It's alright if the rich guys beat us to Mars, as long as they're American, and we'll take credit for it.'

Funny because it's too close to the truth?


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We'll be able the see those live S2 camera views again hassle free... 8)
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Did someone forget to display a model of Dragon on Falcon 9..? ???
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The recording is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NIv3pRdw8&feature=youtu.be

I'll attempt to capture some of the President's notable comments below...


- Opens with comments on immigration, then welcomes all to the third meeting of the National Space Council.


- Introduces Administrator Bridenstine: "Congratulations. You'd better do a good job, or I'll say 'You're fired' in two minutes. ... You have a lot of support, and you've loved this right from the beginning. He [Bridenstine] was in Congress and did an awfully good job, but this was his love – so good luck."


- After introducing Kay Ivey: "Am I doing okay in Alabama? I'd better do okay in Alabama. We love Alabama."


- Introduces "Gwen Shortwell" (sic): "Stand up, Gwen. She'll end up running for office soon, see?"


- "President and CEO United Launch Alliance, that's a combination of Boeing and Lockheed on the Space Launch System, SLS. I don't like when Boeing and Lockheed get together because the pricing only goes up, but that's okay – in this case.

"I don't know, I don't love that stuff, we're going to have to talk about that, your joining those two companies. Oh boy, look at Dennis, Dennis is so happy. I don't like that stuff, Mike."

Pence, laughing nervously, responds: "Yes sir."


- Introducing Marillyn Hewson of Lockheed Martin: "What do you think of that merger for the space lau... what do you think? Look at them they're sitting together, ugh, Boeing... no wonder we don't get the pricing we want, eh?"


- After introducing of Dennis Muilenberg of Boeing, addressing both he and Marillyn: "Both of you, what a job you've both done. Stay apart, stay apart, don't get together, stay apart."


- "When it comes to space, too often for too many years our dreams of exploration and discovery were really squandered by politics and bureaucracy; and we knocked that out. So important for our psyche what you're doing. It's going to be important monetarily and militarily, but so important for right up here: the psyche."


- "America's vital interests in space lost out to special interests in Washington... except of course for the Senators and Congressmen here, they would never do it – right Dana [Rohrabacher]?"


- "But our destiny beyond the earth is not only a matter of national identity, but a matter of national security. So important for our military, so important, and people don't talk about it. When it comes to defending America it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space, we must have American dominance in space."


- "I am hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. That's a big statement. We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force... separate but equal. It is going to be something."


- Regarding a return to the moon: "This time we will do more than plant our flag and leave our footprints. We will establish a long-term presence, expand our economy, and build the foundation for an eventual mission to Mars, which is actually going to happen very quickly.

"And you know I've always said that rich guys seem to like rockets. So all of those rich guys that are dying for our real estate to launch their rockets, we won't charge you too much, just go ahead if you beat us to Mars we'll be very happy and you'll be even more famous.

"But they do like, explain that (where's Eric?) they do like rockets for some reason. They like those rockets. But you know what, as long as he's... as long as it's an American rich person that's good, okay? They can beat us. We'll save a little money and they can beat us and we're taking full credit for it, don't worry about it."


- "And once more we will proudly lead humanity – and that's what it is, humanity – beyond the Earth and into those forbidden skies. But they will not be forbidden for long. ... because we are giving you a platform the likes of which nobody has every been given before. I am a big believer. You will go out there and take that frontier which is largely unknown, by man or woman, and will you will learn everything there is to know about it."

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Did someone forget to display a model of Dragon on Falcon 9..? ???

It's there, just off to the side.

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Did someone forget to display a model of Dragon on Falcon 9..? ???

It's there, just off to the side.
Thanks, I see Dream Chaser off to the left as well! :)
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- "President and CEO United Launch Alliance, that's a combination of Boeing and Lockheed on the Space Launch System, SLS. I don't like when Boeing and Lockheed get together because the pricing only goes up, but that's okay – in this case.

"I don't know, I don't love that stuff, we're going to have to talk about that, your joining those two companies. Oh boy, look at Dennis, Dennis is so happy. I don't like that stuff, Mike."

Pence, laughing nervously, responds: "Yes sir."

Trump can be so cute sometimes, even when he's clueless what message he's supposed to be staying on.

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- "America's vital interests in space lost out to special interests in Washington... except of course for the Senators and Congressmen here, they would never do it – right Dana [Rohrabacher]?"

It's always "them"...

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- Regarding a return to the moon: "This time we will do more than plant our flag and leave our footprints. We will establish a long-term presence, expand our economy, and build the foundation for an eventual mission to Mars, which is actually going to happen very quickly.

Of course we'll have to see how much "political capital" Trump is willing to spend to get Congress to fund such an effort. And as to "quick", he obviously doesn't understand the rate of progress NASA has with the SLS and Orion.

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"But they do like, explain that (where's Eric?) they do like rockets for some reason. They like those rockets. But you know what, as long as he's... as long as it's an American rich person that's good, okay? They can beat us. We'll save a little money and they can beat us and we're taking full credit for it, don't worry about it."

Yep, because it's all about who get credit. What gets done, that's secondary.

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- "And once more we will proudly lead humanity – and that's what it is, humanity – beyond the Earth and into those forbidden skies. But they will not be forbidden for long. ... because we are giving you a platform the likes of which nobody has every been given before. I am a big believer.

We will see how much he really believes in what he proposed when they release their next budget request. Until then, it's just words...
If we don't continuously lower the cost to access space, how are we ever going to afford to expand humanity out into space?

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The recording is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NIv3pRdw8&feature=youtu.be

Here is Trump's speech to the NSC:



Here is the entire NSC meeting (starts at 1h15m):

« Last Edit: 06/19/2018 12:06 am by yg1968 »

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Wow, is Trump really saying this? His (presumably) impromptu comments are incredible.

'It's alright if the rich guys beat us to Mars, as long as they're American, and we'll take credit for it.'

Funny because it's too close to the truth?

Well, you have to give Trump that much: for once he was honest.

Because when SpaceX puts humans on Mars it is a given that the US President and US Congress will take credit for it, not matter what their actual involvement was.
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Wow, is Trump really saying this? His (presumably) impromptu comments are incredible.

'It's alright if the rich guys beat us to Mars, as long as they're American, and we'll take credit for it.'

Funny because it's too close to the truth?

Well, you have to give Trump that much: for once he was honest.

Because when SpaceX puts humans on Mars it is a given that the US President and US Congress will take credit for it, not matter what their actual involvement was.

He was half-joking. But they should take credit for it. For the government, knowing when to get out of the way is a huge step which deserves praise. 
« Last Edit: 06/19/2018 08:38 pm by yg1968 »

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Report on first advisory group meeting:

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Space council’s “think tank” starts work
by Jeff Foust — June 20, 2018

WASHINGTON — An advisory group dubbed the “think tank” for the National Space Council formally kicked off its work June 19 with a broad but vague mandate to study space policy issues.

The Users’ Advisory Group (UAG) of the National Space Council held its first meeting at NASA Headquarters, a five-hour “inaugural and, quite frankly, organizational session” of the committee, in the words of its chairman, retired U.S. Navy Adm. James Ellis.

http://spacenews.com/space-councils-think-tank-starts-work/

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Wow, is Trump really saying this? His (presumably) impromptu comments are incredible.

'It's alright if the rich guys beat us to Mars, as long as they're American, and we'll take credit for it.'

Funny because it's too close to the truth?

Well, you have to give Trump that much: for once he was honest.

Because when SpaceX puts humans on Mars it is a given that the US President and US Congress will take credit for it, not matter what their actual involvement was.

He was half-joking. But they should take credit for it. For the government, knowing when to get out of the way is a huge step which deserves praise. 

The US government stepping out of the way? With US Congress pulling the purse strings? Get real.

SpaceX will, IMO, land people on Mars DESPITE the government being in the way.

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