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CRS-15 Discussion thread

NSF Threads for CRS-15 : Discussion / Updates / L2 Coverage / ASDS / Party

NSF Articles for CRS-15:

NSF Articles for CRS missions :  https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=CRS

Successful launch June 29, 2018 at 05:42 EDT (09:42 UTC) on Falcon 9 (reused Block 4 booster 1045.2) from SLC-40. The booster was expended.
Dragon was previously used on CRS-9.



External cargo: ECOSTRESS, LEE



Other SpaceX resources on NASASpaceflight:
   SpaceX News Articles (Recent)  /   SpaceX News Articles from 2006 (Including numerous exclusive Elon interviews)
   SpaceX Dragon Articles  /  SpaceX Missions Section (with Launch Manifest and info on past and future missions)
   L2 SpaceX Section
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #1 on: 01/20/2018 11:01 pm »
ECOSTRESS page at JPL
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Mission Overview

The ECOsystem Spaceborne Thermal Radiometer Experiment on Space Station (ECOSTRESS) will measure the temperature of plants and use that information to better understand how much water plants need and how they respond to stress.

ECOSTRESS will address three overarching science questions:

-How is the terrestrial biosphere responding to changes in water availability?

-How do changes in diurnal vegetation water stress impact the global carbon cycle?

-Can agricultural vulnerability be reduced through advanced monitoring of agricultural water consumptive use and improved drought estimation?

The ECOSTRESS mission will answer these questions by accurately measuring the temperature of plants. Plants regulate their temperature by releasing water through tiny pores on their leaves called stomata. If they have sufficient water they can maintain their temperature but if there is insufficient water their temperatures rise and this temperature rise  can  be measured with a sensor in space. ECOSTRESS will use a multispectral thermal infrared radiometer to measure the surface temperature. The radiometer that will be delivered to Houston for deployment on the International Space Station in 2018. The radiometer will acquire the most detailed temperature images of the surface ever acquired from space and will be able to measure the temperature of an individual farmers field.

Instrument

The ECOsystem Spaceborne Thermal Radiometer Experiment on Space Station (ECOSTRESS) will be implemented by placing the existing space-ready Prototype HyspIRI Thermal Infrared Radiometer (PHyTIR) on the International Space Station (ISS) and using it to gather the measurements needed to address the science goals and objectives. PHyTIR was developed under the Earth Science Technology Office (ESTO) Instrument Incubator Program (IIP). From the ISS, PHyTIR will provide data with 38-m in-track by 69-m cross-track spatial resolution (science requirement is 100 m) and predicted temperature sensitivity of ≤0.1 K (science requirement is 0.3 K). The ISS orbit allows excellent coverage of the selected targets including diurnal coverage. The existing hardware was developed to reduce the cost and risk for the thermal infrared radiometer on the future Hyperspectral Infrared Imager (HyspIRI) mission, A double-sided scan mirror, rotating at a constant 23.3 rpm, allows the telescope to view a 51°-wide nadir cross-track swath as well as two internal blackbody calibration targets every 1.29 seconds (Note that the two-sided mirror rotating at 23.3 rpm provides 46.6 sweeps per minute). The optical signal is focused by a telescope onto the 60 K focal plane containing a custom 13.2-μm-cutoff mercury-cadmium-telluride (MCT) infrared detector array. Spectral filters on the focal plane define 5 spectral bands in the 8-12.5 μm range and an additional band at 1.6 um for geolocation and cloud detection (six bands total). The focal plane is cooled by two commercial Thales cryocoolers. Electronics consist of six build-to-print and four commercial boards. Heat rejection for the ECOSTRESS cryocoolers and electronics is provided by the cooling fluid loop on the ISS Japanese Experiment Module External Facility (JEM-EF). ECOSTRESS can fit any of the nine JEM-EF payload locations but will be deployed at Site 10 (one of the two end locations).

The schedule on the JPL site shows ECOSTRESS shipping to KSC in March.

Pictures are from JPL.





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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #2 on: 01/21/2018 08:38 pm »
Curious...
The press release says
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ECOSTRESS can fit any of the nine JEM-EF payload locations but will be deployed at Site 10 (one of the two end locations).
However, to scan cross track, the axis of rotation of the two sided scan mirror has to be in the short dimension.
This is as it is shown in several documents including Slide 6 of this update.
If ECOSTRESS was placed on one of the seven forward or back edge position it would scan along track, which wouldn't work.
Why make such a false claim? It's not necessary or even helpful. 
ECOSTRESS will work well at its intended site 10 and it will be mounted there. 

edit: Perhaps "fits" is mechanical.  It "fits" in any of the 9, but will only "work" in one of the 2 end sites.
« Last Edit: 01/21/2018 08:40 pm by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #3 on: 01/21/2018 08:51 pm »
Curious...
The press release says
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ECOSTRESS can fit any of the nine JEM-EF payload locations but will be deployed at Site 10 (one of the two end locations).
However, to scan cross track, the axis of rotation of the two sided scan mirror has to be in the short dimension.
This is as it is shown in several documents including Slide 6 of this update.
If ECOSTRESS was placed on one of the seven forward or back edge position it would scan along track, which wouldn't work.
Why make such a false claim? It's not necessary or even helpful. 
ECOSTRESS will work well at its intended site 10 and it will be mounted there. 

edit: Perhaps "fits" is mechanical.  It "fits" in any of the 9, but will only "work" in one of the 2 end sites.

Another page on the site says:
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The ECOSTRESS radiometer will be deployed on International Space Station (ISS) on the Japanese Experiment Module - External Facility (JEM-EF) site 10. At this location, the radiometer scan is perpendicular to the ISS velocity

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #4 on: 01/22/2018 01:27 pm »
What was the source for the LEE being in the trunk for this mission?  I hadn't heard that until very recently.  I was expecting the MISSEE-FF to be remanifested on this mission since they missed being ready in time for CRS-13.  I'm not surprised that they would get bumped, the new LEE ORU is higher priority.  But, now I'm wondering how long MISSEE-FF will end up having to wait.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #5 on: 01/22/2018 03:30 pm »
What was the source for the LEE being in the trunk for this mission?  I hadn't heard that until very recently.  I was expecting the MISSEE-FF to be remanifested on this mission since they missed being ready in time for CRS-13.  I'm not surprised that they would get bumped, the new LEE ORU is higher priority.  But, now I'm wondering how long MISSEE-FF will end up having to wait.

ISS FPIP's (I did actually find a publicly released snippet of one from October mentioning a spare LEE transfer with CRS-15, in addition to what's in L2).  Of course we know those can always change but until we hear otherwise I'm assuming that's the plan.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #6 on: 01/23/2018 11:49 am »
What was the source for the LEE being in the trunk for this mission?  I hadn't heard that until very recently.  I was expecting the MISSEE-FF to be remanifested on this mission since they missed being ready in time for CRS-13.  I'm not surprised that they would get bumped, the new LEE ORU is higher priority.  But, now I'm wondering how long MISSEE-FF will end up having to wait.

ISS FPIP's (I did actually find a publicly released snippet of one from October mentioning a spare LEE transfer with CRS-15, in addition to what's in L2).  Of course we know those can always change but until we hear otherwise I'm assuming that's the plan.

Thanks.  That doc also shows a MISSEE-FF cartridge swap happening via the JEM A/L, which obviously isn't happening because the facility isn't on station yet.  I thought I had seen an FPIP segment from after CRS-13's launch which showed MISSEE-FF being on CRS-15.  But now I can't seem to find it.  So, maybe I'm misremembering.  Regardless, the LEE will likely have the higher priority, so if they can't fit all 3 payloads in the trunk I won't be surprised for MISSEE to keep waiting. 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #7 on: 02/28/2018 02:52 pm »
Is it known whether CRS-15 will be a (new?) block 5 or (reused) block 4 core?

Also, the top post says CRS-15 will fly from SLC-40, but the Manifest thread says LC-39A...

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #8 on: 02/28/2018 04:57 pm »
Is it known whether CRS-15 will be a (new?) block 5 or (reused) block 4 core?

Also, the top post says CRS-15 will fly from SLC-40, but the Manifest thread says LC-39A...

It hasn't actually been announced yet but I would bet on SLC-40.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #9 on: 02/28/2018 07:49 pm »
Is it known whether CRS-15 will be a (new?) block 5 or (reused) block 4 core?

Also, the top post says CRS-15 will fly from SLC-40, but the Manifest thread says LC-39A...

The Zuma core (if that gets refurbished) is possibly the best candidate for a used core. Perhaps TESS if that can be turned around in double-quick time?

If not, Block 5 seems likely.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #10 on: 03/01/2018 08:56 am »
I can remember a discussion here that NASA requires a special procedure to accept a flight proven core. Which probably means additional paperwork and unique checks. The conclusion seemed to be at that time that only cores for previous CRS missions are accepted to launching new CRS flights.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #11 on: 03/01/2018 10:24 am »
I can remember a discussion here that NASA requires a special procedure to accept a flight proven core. Which probably means additional paperwork and unique checks. The conclusion seemed to be at that time that only cores for previous CRS missions are accepted to launching new CRS flights.

No, per NASA it was just limited to cores from LEO missions, not explicitly previous CRS missions.  But, that does limit the general pool of acceptable preflown cores.  And since they seem not to want to ship recovered cores around if they don't have to, it's further reduced by not including any LEO launches out of Vandenberg.  So, in the end, they are mostly left with CRS cores being acceptable.  Plus, it may be a minor advantage that they already compiled necessary documentation about the initial production and first use for NASA, so using a former CRS core may reduce some paperwork.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #12 on: 03/01/2018 01:28 pm »
I can remember a discussion here that NASA requires a special procedure to accept a flight proven core. Which probably means additional paperwork and unique checks. The conclusion seemed to be at that time that only cores for previous CRS missions are accepted to launching new CRS flights.

No, per NASA it was just limited to cores from LEO missions, not explicitly previous CRS missions.  But, that does limit the general pool of acceptable preflown cores.  And since they seem not to want to ship recovered cores around if they don't have to, it's further reduced by not including any LEO launches out of Vandenberg.  So, in the end, they are mostly left with CRS cores being acceptable.  Plus, it may be a minor advantage that they already compiled necessary documentation about the initial production and first use for NASA, so using a former CRS core may reduce some paperwork.

Allright, I stand corrected then. Thanks!
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #13 on: 03/05/2018 09:55 pm »
SpaceX filed the first FCC permit for the CRS-15 launch, still showing a NET of June 9.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 2018
« Reply #14 on: 03/20/2018 06:12 am »
SpaceX filed the first FCC permit for the CRS-15 launch, still showing a NET of June 9.

This permit (for Dragon ops/comms, at least) was granted today.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=83296

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #15 on: 04/14/2018 07:52 am »
ECOSTRESS arrived at KSC recently, here it is undergoing arrival checkouts. Caption still maintains a launch in June 2018 (it's a PAO-sanctioned caption, but hey).

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #16 on: 04/14/2018 04:30 pm »
ECOSTRESS arrived at KSC recently, here it is undergoing arrival checkouts. Caption still maintains a launch in June 2018 (it's a PAO-sanctioned caption, but hey).

Great image
Is that shiny machined aluminum object with the handles a "connector saver / shorting plug" for the JEM attachment interface?
« Last Edit: 04/14/2018 04:31 pm by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #17 on: 04/14/2018 10:45 pm »
ECOSTRESS arrived at KSC recently, here it is undergoing arrival checkouts. Caption still maintains a launch in June 2018 (it's a PAO-sanctioned caption, but hey).

Great image
Is that shiny machined aluminum object with the handles a "connector saver / shorting plug" for the JEM attachment interface?

I think that's exactly what it is :)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #18 on: 04/14/2018 11:08 pm »
ECOSTRESS arrived at KSC recently, here it is undergoing arrival checkouts. Caption still maintains a launch in June 2018 (it's a PAO-sanctioned caption, but hey).

Great image
Is that shiny machined aluminum object with the handles a "connector saver / shorting plug" for the JEM attachment interface?
It looks like a couple of unmounted plugs in the middle and two unused plug mounts on the sides, which adds up nicely.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #19 on: 04/15/2018 04:40 am »
ECOSTRESS arrived at KSC recently, here it is undergoing arrival checkouts. Caption still maintains a launch in June 2018 (it's a PAO-sanctioned caption, but hey).

Is that a flux capacitor? :P

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #20 on: 04/15/2018 03:49 pm »
Cross-posting from the TESS Update Thread.

The plan is for this booster to fly again on the next CRS mission pending NASA approval.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #21 on: 04/16/2018 07:56 pm »
Was it always the plan to fly the Prototype HyspIRI instrument on the ISS? Or did they come up with Ecostress after they had the prototype?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #22 on: 04/17/2018 07:08 pm »
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #23 on: 04/19/2018 11:15 am »
http://www.dlr.de/dlr/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-10212/332_read-26810/year-all/#/gallery/30169
Hyperspectral instrument DESIS en route to International Space Station in 2018

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #24 on: 04/19/2018 01:48 pm »
Now that core 1045 has landed safely yesterday, with this launching late June, this is beating the typical refurbishment time by quite a bit.  Previous cores have all had about 6 months between flights.

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« Reply #25 on: 04/19/2018 08:04 pm »
http://www.dlr.de/dlr/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-10212/332_read-26810/year-all/#/gallery/30169
Hyperspectral instrument DESIS en route to International Space Station in 2018

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Operating the DLR Earth Sensing Imaging Spectrometer (DESIS) on the International Space Station (ISS) makes DLR the first user of the revolutionary multiplatform system MUSES (Multi User System for Earth Sensing) that was installed on board the ISS in 2017 [MUSES platform was delivered in the Dragon trunk of CRS-11, and installed on ELC-4]. The launch of the DESIS joint venture is scheduled for summer 2018 from Cape Canaveral and will be lifted into space by a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

DESIS will be going up in the pressurized section and then moved outside and into position through the JEM Airlock and SPDM. 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #26 on: 05/15/2018 05:52 pm »
These cubesats could be flying inside Dragon CRS-15.
http://birds2.birds-project.com/
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Expected date of launch – June, 2018
Expected date of deployment from International Space Station – July, 2018

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #27 on: 05/18/2018 04:52 am »
May 17, 2018
MEDIA ADVISORY M18-082
NASA Invites Media to Upcoming Launch of Science to Space Station

Media accreditation now is open for the launch of the next SpaceX delivery of NASA science investigations, supplies and equipment to the International Space Station, currently targeted for late June.

A Dragon cargo spacecraft will launch on a Falcon 9 rocket from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (CCAFS) in Florida.

Media prelaunch and launch activities will take place at neighboring NASA’s Kennedy Space Center and CCAFS.

Credentialing deadlines are as follows:

·      International media without U.S. citizenship must apply by 4:30 p.m. EDT Friday, May 25, for access to CCAFS or by 4:30 p.m. Thursday, June 14, for access to Kennedy media activities only.

·      U.S. media must apply by 4:30 p.m. Thursday, June 21.

All media accreditation requests should be submitted online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

For questions about accreditation, please email [email protected]. For other questions, contact Kennedy’s newsroom at 321-867-2468.

This is the 15th SpaceX mission under NASA’s Commercial Resupply Services contract. Each resupply mission to the station also delivers scientific investigations in the areas of biology and biotechnology, Earth and space science, physical sciences, and technology development and demonstrations.

Highlights of space station research that will be facilitated by this Dragon’s arrival are:

·      A cellular biology investigation to understand how microgravity affects the growth, gene expression and ability of a model bacterium to transfer electrons through its cell membrane along bacterial nanowires it produces. Such bacteria could be used in microbial fuel cells to make electricity from waste organic material.

·      An Earth science instrument called ECOsystem Spaceborne Thermal Radiometer Experiment on Space Station (ECOSTRESS) will provide a new space-based measurement of how plants respond to changes in water availability. This data can help society better manage agricultural water use.

Included in the cargo is a physical sciences investigation that will enable U.S. National Laboratory research, which is managed by the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. The goal of this investigation is to improve our fundamental understanding of physical interactions between soil and sediment particles of quartz and clay, commonly found in a wide variety of environmental settings such as rivers, lakes, and oceans, which has important applications on Earth for geologists and engineers. Additional biology and biotechnology investigations seek to improve understanding of endothelial cells that line the walls of blood vessels, the location of the hydrogen atoms in a molecule as a means to target drug design and delivery, and the genes in algae that cause growth.

The International Space Station is a convergence of science, technology and human innovation that demonstrates new technologies and enables research not possible on Earth. The space station has been occupied continuously since November 2000. In that time, more than 230 people and a variety of international and commercial spacecraft have visited the orbiting laboratory. The space station remains the springboard to NASA's next great leap in exploration, including future human missions to the Moon and eventually to Mars.

For launch countdown coverage, NASA's launch blog, and more information about the mission, visit:

https://www.nasa.gov/spacex

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
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These cubesats could be flying inside Dragon CRS-15.
http://birds2.birds-project.com/
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Expected date of launch – June, 2018
Expected date of deployment from International Space Station – July, 2018
The launch of the three Birds 2 satellites on SpX-15 confirmed by JAXA.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/999691208371908608

Just for context, that was quoting/paraphrasing Andrew Rush, the CEO of Made In Space.  MIS is one of two companies to which NASA has awarded SBIR funding for exploring pulling high quality ZBLAN optical fiber in microgravity (on the ISS).  MIS already has a test apparatus on board station and has run at least 1 experiment run.  I think the finished fiber spool went back down on the CRS-14 Dragon.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
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Experience the Launch of the SpaceX CRS-15 Cargo Mission

Social media users are invited to register to attend the launch of the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carrying the Dragon spacecraft from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. This launch, currently targeted for late June, will be the next commercial cargo resupply services mission to the International Space Station.

If your passion is to communicate and engage the world via social media, then this is the event for you! Seize the opportunity to be on the front line to blog, tweet or Instagram everything about SpaceX’s 15th mission to the space station. In addition to supplies and equipment, the Dragon spacecraft will deliver scientific investigations in the areas of biology and biotechnology, Earth and space science, physical sciences, and technology development and demonstrations.

A maximum of 40 social media users will be selected to attend this two-day event, and will be given access similar to news media.

NASA Social participants will have the opportunity to:

View a launch of the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket
Speak with researchers about investigations heading to the orbiting microgravity laboratory
Tour NASA facilities at Kennedy Space Center
Speak with representatives from NASA and SpaceX
View and take photographs of the Falcon 9 rocket at Space Launch Complex 40
Meet fellow space enthusiasts who are active on social media
NASA Social registration for the CRS-15 launch opens on this page on May 30 and the deadline to apply is on June 6 at 12:00 p.m. EDT. All social applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

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Do I need to have a social media account to register?
Yes. This event is designed for people who:

Actively use multiple social networking platforms and tools to disseminate information to a unique audience.
Regularly produce new content that features multimedia elements.
Have the potential to reach a large number of people using digital platforms.
Reach a unique audience, separate and distinctive from traditional news media and/or NASA audiences.
Must have an established history of posting content on social media platforms.
Have previous postings that are highly visible, respected and widely recognized.
Users on all social networks are encouraged to use the hashtag #NASASocial and #Dragon.  Updates and information about the event will be shared on Twitter via @NASASocial and @NASAKennedy, and via posts to Facebook and Instagram.

How do I register?
Registration for this event opens May 30 and closes at 12:00 p.m. EDT on June 6. Registration is for one person only (you) and is non-transferable. Each individual wishing to attend must register separately. Each application will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Can I register if I am not a U.S. citizen?
Because of the security deadlines, registration is limited to U.S. citizens. If you have a valid permanent resident card, you will be processed as a U.S. citizen.

When will I know if I am selected?
After registrations have been received and processed, an email with confirmation information and additional instructions will be sent to those selected. We expect to send the first notifications on June 12 and waitlist notifications on June 15.

What are NASA Social credentials?
All social applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis. Those chosen must prove through the registration process they meet specific engagement criteria.

If you do not make the registration list for this NASA Social, you still can attend the launch offsite and participate in the conversation online. Find out about ways to experience a launch at http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/viewing.html

What are the registration requirements?
Registration indicates your intent to travel to NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida and attend the two-day event in person. You are responsible for your own expenses for travel, accommodation, food and other amenities.

Some events and participants scheduled to appear at the event are subject to change without notice. NASA is not responsible for loss or damage incurred as a result of attending. NASA, moreover, is not responsible for loss or damage incurred if the event is canceled with limited or no notice. Please plan accordingly.

Kennedy is a government facility. Those who are selected will need to complete an additional registration step to receive clearance to enter the secure areas.

IMPORTANT: To be admitted, you will need to provide two forms of unexpired government-issued identification; one must be a photo ID and match the name provided on the registration. Those without proper identification cannot be admitted. For a complete list of acceptable forms of ID, please visit: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/i-9_poster_acceptable_documents_2014_04_23.pdf

All registrants must be at least 18 years old.

What if the launch date changes?
Hundreds of different factors can cause a scheduled launch date to change multiple times. The launch date will not be official until after the Flight Readiness Review. If the launch date changes prior to then, NASA may adjust the date of the NASA Social accordingly to coincide with the new target launch date. NASA will notify registrants of any changes by email.

If the launch is postponed, attendees will be invited to attend a later launch date. NASA cannot accommodate attendees for delays beyond 72 hours.

NASA Social attendees are responsible for any additional costs they incur related to any launch delay. We strongly encourage participants to make travel arrangements that are refundable and/or flexible.

What if I cannot come to the Kennedy Space Center?
If you cannot come to the Kennedy Space Center and attend in person, you should not register for the NASA Social. You can follow the conversation using the #NASASocial hashtag on Twitter. You can watch the launch on NASA Television, www.nasa.gov/live. NASA will provide regular launch and mission updates on @NASA and @NASAKennedy.

If you cannot make this NASA Social, don't worry; NASA is planning many other Socials in the near future at various locations! Check back on http://www.nasa.gov/social for updates.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 28, 2018
« Reply #34 on: 06/03/2018 02:49 pm »
According to http://www.nanosats.eu/index.html in addition to the Birds 2 satellites there will be Biarri-Squad 1, 2 and 3 (all three 3U) and FACSAT-1 (6U) on SpX-15.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018
« Reply #35 on: 06/05/2018 02:36 am »
Ben Cooper and Spaceflight Now are showing this as June 29 now.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018
« Reply #36 on: 06/07/2018 09:45 am »
According to http://www.nanosats.eu/index.html in addition to the Birds 2 satellites there will be Biarri-Squad 1, 2 and 3 (all three 3U) and FACSAT-1 (6U) on SpX-15.
Today I have learned, that FACSAT-1 is only 3U and was planned on PSLV.
Either this source is not correct, something has changed or I was wrong.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018
« Reply #37 on: 06/08/2018 04:16 am »
June 07, 2018
MEDIA ADVISORY M18-091
Researchers to Discuss Science Launching on Next Resupply Mission to Space Station

NASA will host a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT Monday, June 11, to discuss a number of science investigations launching to the International Space Station on the next SpaceX commercial resupply mission. Audio of the teleconference will stream live on NASA’s website.

David Brady, assistant program scientist for the International Space Station Program at NASA’s Johnson Space Center, and Liz Warren, associate program scientist at the Center for Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), will provide an overview of the research and technology aboard SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft.

Also participating in the briefing will be:

    John Hogan, NASA’s Ames Research Center – principal investigator for the Micro-12 investigation, will discuss this cellular biology research on how microgravity affects the growth, gene expression and ability of a model bacterium to transfer electrons through its cell membrane along bacterial nano wires it produces. Such bacteria could be used in microbial fuel cells to make electricity from organic waste. 

    Paul Jaminet, founder and chief executive officer, and Shou-Ching Jaminet, chief scientist, Angiex – will discuss Angiex's investigation of endothelial cells, the cells that line the walls of blood vessels. Culturing endothelial cells in microgravity could create an important model system for evaluating the action of any vascular-targeted drug. Use of this model may enable Angiex to develop a novel cancer therapy with lower toxicity and potential to be effective against most cancers.
    Fred Turek and Martha Vitaterna, Northwestern University – principal investigators for Rodent Research-7, will discuss their research to examine how the space environment affects the community of microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract of mice (also known as the microbiota). Results could help protect astronaut health during long-term missions by providing insights into the microbial populations’ interactions with physiological systems including the gastrointestinal, immune, metabolic, circadian, and sleep systems during spaceflight.
    Mark Settles, University of Florida – principal investigator for the Space Algae investigation, will discuss research to select algae strains adapted to space and sequence their genomes to identify growth-related genes. Algae consume waste carbon dioxide, can provide basic nutrition and may perceive microgravity as a trigger to produce algae oils rich in antioxidants that may help mitigate the harmful effects of microgravity and cosmic radiation during spaceflight.

To participate in the teleconference, media must contact Stephanie Schierholz at 202-358-1100 or [email protected] no later than noon on June 11, for dial-in information.

SpaceX is targeting no earlier than 5:41 a.m. June 29 for the launch of its Dragon spacecraft on a Falcon 9 rocket from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

The Space Life and Physical Sciences Research and Applications Division at NASA Headquarters in Washington is sponsoring the Micro-12 and Rodent Research-7 investigations as part of its research to enable human spaceflight exploration, and CASIS is sponsoring the Angiex Cancer Therapy and Space Algae investigations as part of the U.S. National Laboratory research to improve life on Earth.

Find out more about NASA’s commercial resupply services at:

https://go.nasa.gov/2FPdagj

Learn more about research aboard the International Space Station at:

https://www.nasa.gov/station/research
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018
« Reply #38 on: 06/13/2018 05:47 am »
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7157


News | June 12, 2018
ECOSTRESS Among Science Payloads on Next Space Station Mission


A new batch of science is headed to the International Space Station aboard the SpaceX Dragon on the company's 15th mission for commercial resupply services, scheduled for launch June 29 from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The spacecraft will deliver science that studies plant water use all over the planet, artificial intelligence, gut health in space, more efficient drug development and the formation of inorganic structures without the influence of Earth's gravity.

Take a look at five investigations headed to space on the latest SpaceX resupply:

ECOSTRESS

Plants regulate their temperature by releasing water through tiny pores on their leaves. If they have sufficient water they can maintain their temperature, but if water is insufficient their temperatures rise. This temperature rise can be measured with a sensor in space.

ECOSTRESS, developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, measures the temperature of plants and uses that information to better understand how much water plants need and how they respond to stress.

MOBILE COMPANION

As we travel farther into space, the need for artificial intelligence (AI) within a spacecraft increases.

Mobile Companion, a European Space Agency (ESA) investigation, explores the use of AI as a way to mitigate crew stress and workload during long-term spaceflight.

RODENT RESEARCH-7

Spaceflight has an impact on many bodily systems. Rodent Research-7 takes a look at how the microgravity environment of space affects the community of microoganisms in the gastrointestinal tract, or microbiota.

The study also evaluates relationships between system changes, such as sleep-wake cycle disruption, and imbalance of microbial populations, to identify contributing factors and support development of countermeasures to protect astronaut health during long-term missions, as well as to improve the treatment of gastrointestinal, immune, metabolic and sleep disorders on Earth.

ANGIEX CANCER THERAPY

Cardiovascular diseases and cancer are the leading causes of death in developed countries. Angiex Cancer Therapy examines whether microgravity-cultured endothelial cells represent a valid in vitro model to test effects of vascular-targeted agents on normal blood vessels.

Results may create a model system for designing safer drugs, targeting the vasculature of cancer tumors and helping pharmaceutical companies design safer vascular-targeted drugs.

CHEMICAL GARDENS

Chemical Gardens are structures that grow during the interaction of metal salt solutions with silicates, carbonates or other selected anions. Their growth characteristics and attractive final shapes form from a complex interplay between reaction-diffusion processes and self-organization.

On Earth, gravity-induced flow due to buoyancy differences between the reactants complicates our understanding of the physics behind these chemical gardens. Conducting this experiment in a microgravity environment ensures diffusion-controlled growth and allows researchers a better assessment of initiation and evolution of these structures.

These investigations join hundreds of others currently happening aboard the orbiting laboratory. For daily updates, follow @ISS_Research, Space Station Research and Technology Newsor our Facebook page. For opportunities to see the space station pass over your town, check out Spot the Station.

News Media Contact
Written by Jenny Howard
International Space Station Program Science Office
Johnson Space Center

ECOSTRESS News Media Contact:

Alan Buis
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-354-0474
[email protected]

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #39 on: 06/22/2018 07:22 pm »
I dont see a grapple fixture or other attach mechanism on the new LEE. Will it need to be removed from the trunk via spacewalk or am I just missing where the arm or dextre will grab it?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #40 on: 06/22/2018 11:30 pm »
I dont see a grapple fixture or other attach mechanism on the new LEE. Will it need to be removed from the trunk via spacewalk or am I just missing where the arm or dextre will grab it?
The LEE FSE FRAM will be extracted by Dextre and the crew will perform the R&R. A low level proposal by MAXAR Technologies (SSLMDA) to build new robotic arm ORU components with built in MCT SPDM grapple points to allow ORU R&R via a robotic vehicular activity (RVA). This proposal will likely see its first use in the LOP-G or DST Programmes.

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I do not remember having a US disposal off the coast of Bermuda previously. When was the last time that was done? Usually it’s in southern ocean or Indian Ocean near Australia

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I do not remember having a US disposal off the coast of Bermuda previously. When was the last time that was done? Usually it’s in southern ocean or Indian Ocean near Australia

It usually is in or near the Pacific or Indian oceans, this might be one of the B5 S2 re-entry tests we've heard about
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I do not remember having a US disposal off the coast of Bermuda previously. When was the last time that was done? Usually it’s in southern ocean or Indian Ocean near Australia

It usually is in or near the Pacific or Indian oceans, this might be one of the B5 S2 re-entry tests we've heard about
Or they might simply be demonstrating the second stage's longevity, much as they did with the Falcon Heavy launch.
Following the space program since before Apollo 8.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #44 on: 06/24/2018 01:26 am »
The S2 re-entry zone is oriented northwest to southeast, aligned for a descending node re-entry.

How long would it take for the initial, approximately 90-minute orbit to "walk" around the globe to have a descending node re-entry over the North Atlantic?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #45 on: 06/24/2018 02:59 am »
The S2 re-entry zone is oriented northwest to southeast, aligned for a descending node re-entry.

How long would it take for the initial, approximately 90-minute orbit to "walk" around the globe to have a descending node re-entry over the North Atlantic?

A quick measurment on Google Maps says that the track is 3000 miles east of KSC.
That roughly translates to 10 hours 
12*(0.5-3000/(6378*2*pi*cos(28.6))=9.9
I am sure someone can do a more precise estimate.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #46 on: 06/24/2018 03:25 am »
The S2 re-entry zone is oriented northwest to southeast, aligned for a descending node re-entry.

How long would it take for the initial, approximately 90-minute orbit to "walk" around the globe to have a descending node re-entry over the North Atlantic?

A quick measurment on Google Maps says that the track is 3000 miles east of KSC.
That roughly translates to 10 hours 
12*(0.5-3000/(6378*2*pi*cos(28.6))=9.9
I am sure someone can do a more precise estimate.

Thanks!--a rough estimate is sufficient to serve my follow-up question.

If the second stage is to perform a re-entry burn approximately 10 hours after launch, is that a substantial increase in its operational lifetime over previous launches/Falcon 9 versions?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #47 on: 06/24/2018 03:43 am »
The S2 re-entry zone is oriented northwest to southeast, aligned for a descending node re-entry.

How long would it take for the initial, approximately 90-minute orbit to "walk" around the globe to have a descending node re-entry over the North Atlantic?

A quick measurment on Google Maps says that the track is 3000 miles east of KSC.
That roughly translates to 10 hours 
12*(0.5-3000/(6378*2*pi*cos(28.6))=9.9
I am sure someone can do a more precise estimate.

Thanks!--a rough estimate is sufficient to serve my follow-up question.

If the second stage is to perform a re-entry burn approximately 10 hours after launch, is that a substantial increase in its operational lifetime over previous launches/Falcon 9 versions?

I think I have to disagree that the rough estimate is sufficient for your follow-up question.  Raul's post said reentry is about 6 hours after launch, which is about the same as previous long coast tests.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #48 on: 06/24/2018 03:51 am »
From the NOTMAR that Raul linked:

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Eastern Range OP# X4715 FALCON 9 CRS-15 will be conducting hazardous operations surface to unlimited within the following Launch Hazard Areas.

A: From 2836N 8038W, TO 2906N 8011W, TO 2904N 8007W, TO 2834N 8028W, TO 2829N 8033W to beginning
B: From 3232N 7630W, TO 3453N 7342W, TO 3445N 7326W, TO 3222N 7619W to beginning

Hazard periods for primary And backup launch day;
Primary launch day: 29 / 0933Z thru 29 / 1014Z Jun 18. Preferred T-0 is 0938Z.
Backup launch day (1): 30 / 0911Z thru 30 / 0951Z Jul 18. Preferred T-0 is 0916Z.
Backup launch day (2): 01 / 0844Z thru 01 / 0925Z Jul 18. Preferred T-0 is 0849Z.
 
Eastern Range OP# X4715 FALCON 9 CRS-15 UPPER STAGE REENTRY will be conducting hazardous operations surface to unlimited for atmospheric upper stage reentry and splashdown of launch vehicle upper stage within the following areas.

A: FROM 3933N 5940W, TO 2800N 4628W, TO 2227N 5152W, TO 3446N 6509W to beginning

Hazard periods for primary and backup launch day;
Primary launch day: 29 / 1553Z thru 29 / 1632Z Jun 18. Preferred T-0 is 0938Z.
Backup launch day (1): 30 / 1531Z thru 30 / 1634Z Jul 18. Preferred T-0 is 0916Z.
Backup launch day (2): 01 / 1504Z thru 01 / 1543Z Jul 18. Preferred T-0 is 0849Z.

(I'm glad Raul looks at these things so I don't have to.)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #49 on: 06/24/2018 08:33 pm »
So that starts 6 hrs 20 min after the opening of the launch window.
So much for my estimating abilities. 😛
6 hrs is about the time to get from GTO to GSO altitude so it’s all the coast time needed unless there are some extraordinary launch profiles. 
And isn’t that what SpaceX demonstrated on the inaugural flight of the Heavy?
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #50 on: 06/26/2018 03:18 am »
Airspace Closure Area and Launch Hazard Area

I'm digging the Expendable Launches heading on the hazard area sheet.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #51 on: 06/26/2018 09:42 pm »
Airspace Closure Area and Launch Hazard Area

I'm digging the Expendable Launches heading on the hazard area sheet.

It's kind of amazing how quickly we've become used to reused first stage boosters. Now we wonder "Oh, they're actually going to throw that one away?". Quite an accomlishment by SpaceX. Of course this probably could have been done 20 or 30 years ago, but it took a company focusing on efficiency and commercialization to make it a priority to develop the reuse capabilities.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #52 on: 06/26/2018 09:49 pm »
That's on all those maps, regardless of what the booster does after MECO. It has been on other launches where there has been a landing, nothing special

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #53 on: 06/26/2018 11:13 pm »
That's on all those maps, regardless of what the booster does after MECO. It has been on other launches where there has been a landing, nothing special

Is that so?  What's the heading from then, the shuttle days?  A vestigial leftover of truly-expendable EELV?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #54 on: 06/26/2018 11:27 pm »
Probably, that's something that I don't know, but I remember seeing that in past missions and seeing people asking about it even though we knew the launch wasn't expendable.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #55 on: 06/27/2018 01:02 am »
That's on all those maps, regardless of what the booster does after MECO. It has been on other launches where there has been a landing, nothing special

Is that so?  What's the heading from then, the shuttle days?  A vestigial leftover of truly-expendable EELV?

It's the Air Force classification of the Falcons as part of the EELV program.  Nothing to do with Shuttle.  It's just the Air Force nomenclature.  Has nothing to do -- now -- with true expendability.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #56 on: 06/27/2018 03:18 am »
It's the Air Force classification of the Falcons as part of the EELV program.  Nothing to do with Shuttle.  It's just the Air Force nomenclature.  Has nothing to do -- now -- with true expendability.
Right.  Back in the day, 1980s and onward, there was Space Transportation System and there were Expendable Launch Vehicles.  That was the nomenclature (USAF and NASA), and it apparently hasn't changed. 

And the nomenclature is mostly accurate this year.  In 2018 so far, seven of the ten Falcon 9s have been totally expended.  (This launch will make eight out of eleven.)  The other three were, like Shuttle in the old days, partly expended.

There should be a new naming convention to explain the modern era.  Partially Reusable Launch Vehicle?  Evolved Launch Vehicle?  Vertical Launch Vehicle?  VTVLLV? 

 - Ed Kyle 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #57 on: 06/27/2018 05:12 am »
Right.  Back in the day, 1980s and onward, there was Space Transportation System and there were Expendable Launch Vehicles.

That's exactly what I meant by related to shuttle. STS vs (E)ELV.

There should be a new naming convention to explain the modern era.  Partially Reusable Launch Vehicle?  Evolved Launch Vehicle?  Vertical Launch Vehicle?  VTVLLV?

I seem to remember a new name being officially bandied about somewhere in a recent budget-related news item, but I can't find it anywhere. It was something like NSSLV? National Security Space Something-Something, at any rate.

[...]

Actually, before clicking post, I found it.  The new name for the EELV program is the National Security Space Launch Program.  That's what's desired by the Senate, anyway.  The language is from the latest NDAA, and is not yet reconciled or signed.

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Renames the Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) program the National Security Space Launch Program and directs the Secretary of Defense to pursue a strategy that includes fully or partially reusable space launch systems.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #58 on: 06/27/2018 02:03 pm »
It's the Air Force classification of the Falcons as part of the EELV program.  Nothing to do with Shuttle.  It's just the Air Force nomenclature.  Has nothing to do -- now -- with true expendability.
Right.  Back in the day, 1980s and onward, there was Space Transportation System and there were Expendable Launch Vehicles.  That was the nomenclature (USAF and NASA), and it apparently hasn't changed. 

And the nomenclature is mostly accurate this year.  In 2018 so far, seven of the ten Falcon 9s have been totally expended.  (This launch will make eight out of eleven.)  The other three were, like Shuttle in the old days, partly expended.

There should be a new naming convention to explain the modern era.  Partially Reusable Launch Vehicle?  Evolved Launch Vehicle?  Vertical Launch Vehicle?  VTVLLV? 

 - Ed Kyle

Counting this launch, nine Falcon 9 boosters will have been launched this year, two of them twice in this year. Only one booster from a F9 launch this year will remain: the lone Block 5.

If you sort by block, the pattern for launches and recoveries this year is clear:

Block 4: 100% expended (88% after reuse: only 1 new booster was expended or lost, and then only due to weather at the landing site preventing a recovery attempt)
Block 5: 100% recovered
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #59 on: 06/27/2018 03:27 pm »
If you sort by block, the pattern for launches and recoveries this year is clear:

Block 4: 100% expended (88% after reuse: only 1 new booster was expended or lost, and then only due to weather at the landing site preventing a recovery attempt)
Block 5: 100% recovered

Good analysis.

It is pretty clear that SpaceX wants to be shut of B4 and move on. They must have adjudged third reflights as not worth the bother and risk, especially given the headway they've made on the backlog.

This has been covered in more depth in other threads which are more suited for this sort of analysis though.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #60 on: 06/28/2018 02:45 am »
Question regarding viewing this launch in person (never seen one in person, first time in Florida). How early would I have to be on the A1A between the bridges to still be able to park up amd get a reasonable viewing spot?

If I understand it right all the other places will be closed including Playlandia beach and Jetty Park.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #61 on: 06/28/2018 06:55 am »
http://launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html is the definitive reference.  Since it's an early morning launch without a booster landing, the crowd should be on the small side.  An hour should be more than enough margin.

I recommend Route 401 on the north side of the port.  You'll have a view of the rocket on the pad, and still be close enough to get a good auditory experience.  Scheduled T-0 is less than an hour before sunrise, so the view should be awesome  8)
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #62 on: 06/28/2018 02:21 pm »
Launch attempt schedule:

Friday - 05:42 EDT (09:42 UTC)
Saturday - NO ATTEMPT
Sunday - 04:54 EDT (08:54 UTC)
Yesterday, it was reported:
L-2 day launch weather outlook.  Unchanged from yesterday.  90% change of good weather on Friday.  70% chance of good weather on the backup day on Saturday.
Did the backup day change from Saturday to Sunday (and if so do we know a reason) or did the weather report just get misunderstood? I note that it doesn't specifically list the backup day's date, only the chance of violating weather constraints on the unlisted date, which means it might have meant Sunday all along.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #63 on: 06/28/2018 05:07 pm »
I noticed on the F9 2nd stage reusable page that they are going to deorbit after "4 revolutions". The track on that final revolution looks like it is over my city (mid North America), maybe around sunrise but I'm not too sure. I have an app which tracks the space station, but I don't really know when the S2 might be overhead. Does anyone one have a ruff idea of how long a revolution for S2 would be? I thought it might be interesting to see if I can find it pass over. I don't know where they will do the deorbit burn and if I might see anything other than a dot, but I thought it might be fun to keep an eye out.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #64 on: 06/28/2018 05:19 pm »
Question regarding viewing this launch in person (never seen one in person, first time in Florida). How early would I have to be on the A1A between the bridges to still be able to park up amd get a reasonable viewing spot?

If I understand it right all the other places will be closed including Playlandia beach and Jetty Park.

At that time of day, probably anytime before launch.  I always liked being on the earthen bridge ramp on 528 / A1A just west with a clear view of the river toward the pad.  Makes for a great light show and being elevated helps.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #65 on: 06/28/2018 08:04 pm »
Launch attempt schedule:

Friday - 05:42 EDT (09:42 UTC)
Saturday - NO ATTEMPT
Sunday - 04:54 EDT (08:54 UTC)
Yesterday, it was reported:
L-2 day launch weather outlook.  Unchanged from yesterday.  90% change of good weather on Friday.  70% chance of good weather on the backup day on Saturday.
Did the backup day change from Saturday to Sunday (and if so do we know a reason) or did the weather report just get misunderstood? I note that it doesn't specifically list the backup day's date, only the chance of violating weather constraints on the unlisted date, which means it might have meant Sunday all along.

Yes
The backup day is now Sunday
The basis is discussed in the SpaceX Missions section.
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Can't launch Saturday because ISS trajectory is too far away in its ground track for Dragon to reach Station in time for science requirements.  NO other reason
 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #66 on: 06/28/2018 08:23 pm »
I noticed on the F9 2nd stage reusable page that they are going to deorbit after "4 revolutions". The track on that final revolution looks like it is over my city (mid North America), maybe around sunrise but I'm not too sure. I have an app which tracks the space station, but I don't really know when the S2 might be overhead. Does anyone one have a ruff idea of how long a revolution for S2 would be? I thought it might be interesting to see if I can find it pass over. I don't know where they will do the deorbit burn and if I might see anything other than a dot, but I thought it might be fun to keep an eye out.

4 orbits would be about 6 hours after launch, or around 10:30 Central time. Definitely mid-morning and well after sunrise, so it most likely won't be visible.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #68 on: 06/29/2018 01:14 am »
Thanks Leetdan and Wannamoombase, alarm is set to 3:30am to get to 401 at around 5am-ish. Now to get some sleep.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #69 on: 06/29/2018 08:43 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

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« Reply #70 on: 06/29/2018 09:17 am »
Quite a crowd here on the 401. Falcon looking good in the distance.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #71 on: 06/29/2018 09:50 am »
Why does the second stage engine blanket have a pulse?
There is a very visible pulsing, close to one pulse per second, that slightly puffs out the covering visible in the S2 cameras.

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« Reply #72 on: 06/29/2018 09:53 am »
And just after seco, the engine puffs a few times at the same rate, including what really looked like a couple of ?smoke rings?
Gotta love the increased light sensitivity of one of the two engine cameras.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #73 on: 06/29/2018 10:02 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #74 on: 06/29/2018 10:03 am »
View from Orlando:


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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #75 on: 06/29/2018 10:09 am »
Don't have a screen grab but it had an extra passenger at Dragon sep. Something from the second stage parted company along with the Dragon.

Edit: Got a screen grab
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #76 on: 06/29/2018 10:21 am »
Congratulations to SpaceX and NASA for the successful launch!

I'm wondering if all the extra performance from not recovering the first stage, not flying the legs and fins and Block 5 second stage will be used for re-entry test of second stage using an inflatable heat shield.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #77 on: 06/29/2018 10:25 am »
Congratulations to all concerned.

And how long until we get the UFO reports regarding the launch.

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« Reply #78 on: 06/29/2018 10:25 am »
The launch was stunning, it didn't come out in our video but you could see the nose cap all the way down.

e: whoops, pretty sure that would've been the first stage.
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« Reply #79 on: 06/29/2018 10:27 am »
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« Reply #80 on: 06/29/2018 10:40 am »
Congratulations SpaceX! :-)

And thanks for all the wonderful launches Block 4! It was great!

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #81 on: 06/29/2018 10:43 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

You didnt understand what I meant. Given, my wording was a bit obscure.

For some reason, they dont want to say "this is the second to last launch of a B4 booster". They want to throw superlatives around but cant because its not the last launch of a B4 due to the in-flight abort test. So somehow they had to exclude the inflight abort launch from their superlative wording. One way is saying "last orbital launch of a B4 first stage". But they chose a different way and said "last launch with the B4 first stage B5 second stage combination". And I find this creative and congratulated them for it.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #82 on: 06/29/2018 10:47 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

You didnt understand what I meant. Given, my wording was a bit obscure.

For some reason, they dont want to say "this is the second to last launch of a B4 booster". They want to throw superlatives around but cant because its not the last launch of a B4 due to the in-flight abort test. So somehow they had to exclude the inflight abort launch from their superlative wording. One way is saying "last orbital launch of a B4 first stage". But they chose a different way and said "last launch with the B4 first stage B5 second stage combination". And I find this creative and congratulated them for it.

Oh, haha, me bad. Indeed clever wording, not sure why they would want to make such an effort, but maybe all is still up in the air anyways..

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #83 on: 06/29/2018 10:48 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

You didnt understand what I meant. Given, my wording was a bit obscure.

For some reason, they dont want to say "this is the second to last launch of a B4 booster". They want to throw superlatives around but cant because its not the last launch of a B4 due to the in-flight abort test. So somehow they had to exclude the inflight abort launch from their superlative wording. One way is saying "last orbital launch of a B4 first stage". But they chose a different way and said "last launch with the B4 first stage B5 second stage combination". And I find this creative and congratulated them for it.

AFAIK, there is absolutely nothing indicating that B1042 will be used for the in-flight abort. It's all based on speculation.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #84 on: 06/29/2018 10:54 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

You didnt understand what I meant. Given, my wording was a bit obscure.

For some reason, they dont want to say "this is the second to last launch of a B4 booster". They want to throw superlatives around but cant because its not the last launch of a B4 due to the in-flight abort test. So somehow they had to exclude the inflight abort launch from their superlative wording. One way is saying "last orbital launch of a B4 first stage". But they chose a different way and said "last launch with the B4 first stage B5 second stage combination". And I find this creative and congratulated them for it.

AFAIK, there is absolutely nothing indicating that B1042 will be used for the in-flight abort. It's all based on speculation.

As is a lot regarding future usage of cores... ;)
SpaceX always has somehow liked playing their card close to the vest regarding core assignments..

Current reasoning:
-1042 is definitely not going to launch any mission, so much is 100% clear now
-1042 seems to have been recently transported West (to Hawthorne?) why? refurb and frankenstein mods?
-1042 could have been scrapped, but seems they still not did that, it would not be special as show item
-Potentially wasting Block-5 seems pretty expensive for an optional In-Flight-abort test

But indeed all pure speculation, time will tell (as always)

edit: sorry mods, we are way of the CRS-15 discussion, move if you want to in-flight-abort thread
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #85 on: 06/29/2018 10:59 am »
This is the 3rd and FINAL Block 4 first stage / Block 5 second stage Falcon 9 configuration.

It is the first time NASA is flying with a Block 5 Falcon 9 Second Stage.

LOL, what a nice way to exclude the in-flight abort test. Tip of the head to who ever came up with it :)

Does not exclude anything, as in-flight abort will:
- not be orbital
- not have a second stage
- not launch anything

Also why waste a perfectly good block-5 unless they are certain they can recover it...?

You didnt understand what I meant. Given, my wording was a bit obscure.

For some reason, they dont want to say "this is the second to last launch of a B4 booster". They want to throw superlatives around but cant because its not the last launch of a B4 due to the in-flight abort test. So somehow they had to exclude the inflight abort launch from their superlative wording. One way is saying "last orbital launch of a B4 first stage". But they chose a different way and said "last launch with the B4 first stage B5 second stage combination". And I find this creative and congratulated them for it.

AFAIK, there is absolutely nothing indicating that B1042 will be used for the in-flight abort. It's all based on speculation.

As is a lot regarding future usage of cores... ;)
SpaceX always has somehow liked playing their card close to the vest regarding core assignments..

Current reasoning:
-1042 is definitely not going to launch any mission, so much is 100% clear now
-1042 seems to have been recently transported West (to Hawthorne?) why? refurb and frankenstein mods?
-1042 could have been scrapped, but seems they still not did that, it would not be special as show item
-Potentially wasting Block-5 seems pretty expensive for an optional In-Flight-abort test

But indeed all pure speculation, time will tell (as always)

edit: sorry mods, we are way of the CRS-15 discussion, move if you want to in-flight-abort thread

And let us be VERY CLEAR.  Jessica Jensen CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY said yesterday that this was the final Block 4 to fly. 

There was no "well, maybe something else" or "superlatives" as some are saying here.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #86 on: 06/29/2018 11:34 am »
They are planning a rocket garden at the new control center, maybe they will prepare 1042 for that. And maybe move Grasshopper and come up with a F1 somehow.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #87 on: 06/29/2018 12:18 pm »
And let us be VERY CLEAR.  Jessica Jensen CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY said yesterday that this was the final Block 4 to fly. 

There was no "well, maybe something else" or "superlatives" as some are saying here.

Well, that settles it then, thank you. I am just so used to read over-specific disclaimers all the time that the pattern recognition subcomponent of my brain started screaming. I might have to recalibrate it.

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« Reply #88 on: 06/29/2018 12:45 pm »
Fun fact: CRS-15 represented the fastest Dragon turnaround with 711 days between CRS-9 and today. Previous record was 724 day between CRS-8 and CRS-14.
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« Reply #89 on: 06/29/2018 12:52 pm »
They are planning a rocket garden at the new control center, maybe they will prepare 1042 for that. And maybe move Grasshopper and come up with a F1 somehow.
That'd be really cool to see all together. :)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #90 on: 06/29/2018 01:35 pm »
Don't have a screen grab but it had an extra passenger at Dragon sep. Something from the second stage parted company along with the Dragon.

Edit: Got a screen grab

That was the nut that was supposed to go with that wrench the last time!  ;D

I just watched the webcast before looking on here and when I saw that I went straight to the discussion to see who posted about it first.  LOL

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #91 on: 06/29/2018 02:48 pm »
Yikes! That was incredible, think my jaw is still somewhere in the grass verge of the FL 401 (btw. that place was quite packed, the pre-dawn plume show expectation must have pulled a lot of people from their beds).

First time seeing a launch in person and what a show the Falcon put up for it!

Edit: does anyone know why the photos are all sideways and upside down? They seem fine on the phone. 😫
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« Reply #92 on: 06/29/2018 03:48 pm »
Rough guess that the deorbit burn [happening about now] is south of Alaska and in post-sunrise full-bright sky, so ground/sea/air observation unlikely, this time.

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« Reply #93 on: 06/29/2018 03:51 pm »
For comparison, deorbit observations on two previous missions....

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #94 on: 06/29/2018 04:01 pm »
The big bright dot visible from the aft-facing 2nd stage cameras... the Moon? It stayed pretty steady until after SECO, when it started to drift relative to the spacecraft. It's also full right now, so opposite the Sun. So I'm guessing Moon and not a piece of crud on the lens. (I haven't waded through previous posts yet, so apologies if already covered.)

Anyway... congratulations again SpaceX and NASA! Hope everything on this flight goes as well, with routine berthing a few days from now. On to Block 5.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #95 on: 06/29/2018 04:46 pm »
Iphone? Sometimes the Apple idea of photo orientation is not so good. Edit them in any editor, don't change anything and save.


Edit: does anyone know why the photos are all sideways and upside down? They seem fine on the phone. 😫

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #96 on: 06/29/2018 04:55 pm »
Don't have a screen grab but it had an extra passenger at Dragon sep. Something from the second stage parted company along with the Dragon.

Edit: Got a screen grab

That was the nut that was supposed to go with that wrench the last time!  ;D

I just watched the webcast before looking on here and when I saw that I went straight to the discussion to see who posted about it first.  LOL
It is ice.
Through severe rebuke we have been shown that any and all foreign objects drifting between the S2 and the Dragon are ice. And discussion of this is taboo, so shhh! please.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #97 on: 06/29/2018 05:50 pm »
Don't have a screen grab but it had an extra passenger at Dragon sep. Something from the second stage parted company along with the Dragon.

Edit: Got a screen grab

That was the nut that was supposed to go with that wrench the last time!  ;D

I just watched the webcast before looking on here and when I saw that I went straight to the discussion to see who posted about it first.  LOL
It is ice.
Through severe rebuke we have been shown that any and all foreign objects drifting between the S2 and the Dragon are ice. And discussion of this is taboo, so shhh! please.
Ice????  I was sure it was swamp gas!
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #98 on: 06/29/2018 06:13 pm »
Expending the booster sure does save NSF bandwidth.   ???

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #99 on: 06/29/2018 10:51 pm »
Thanks, it's an Android phone (some Samsung thingy). Will find and use a photo editor in the future to prevent any injuries when people try to view the pics I post 😬

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #100 on: 06/30/2018 04:21 am »
Edit: does anyone know why the photos are all sideways and upside down? They seem fine on the phone. 😫

You need to configure your phone into landscape mode.

https://www.wikihow.com/Switch-to-Portrait-or-Landscape-Mode-on-Android
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #101 on: 06/30/2018 10:39 am »
From Jupiter ...the town  :)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #102 on: 07/05/2018 11:39 pm »
SpaceX CRS-15 Launch Photographer Behind-the-Scenes, Orbital Sunrise, 500fps liftoff slow motion


The slow-motion footage starting around 2:56 is utterly fascinating.  Even at a tenth speed, you can't see how fast the exhaust is moving even while parts that appear to be quite close fall like puffs of dry ice.  Quite a contrast.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #103 on: 07/08/2018 12:54 pm »

The slow-motion footage starting around 2:56 is utterly fascinating.  Even at a tenth speed, you can't see how fast the exhaust is moving even while parts that appear to be quite close fall like puffs of dry ice.  Quite a contrast.

Filmed at 500 frames per second, the Falcon's exhaust would *still* cover some 5.6 meters per frame. So no, you cannot actually see the exhaust move, just the general shape of the flame.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #104 on: 07/26/2018 09:12 pm »
Here's my footage of this launch:

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-15 : June 29, 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #105 on: 07/31/2018 09:06 am »
NASA TV schedule no longer lists Dragon ISS departure, probably due to the Commercial Crew announcement happening around the same time. Does that mean there won't be a live coverage available for the Dragon departure?

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