Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1A : Oct. 7/8, 2018 : Vandenberg - DISCUSSION  (Read 87273 times)

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Wow, hang on a moment... who’s gonna do the analysis of that lean?

- bad leg
- camera lens

People will want to know... this could actually be fun to see until the day SpaceX provides raw telemetry for us lemmings!

Just glad it all went well and didn’t have to set an actual reminder to watch it... cause RTLS at VAFB

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Did anyone else notice how much flame impingement there was on the first stage after separation?  As the booster was in the middle of it's flip it looks like the flame hit between the bottom of the interstage and the top of the lox tank
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Wow, hang on a moment... who’s gonna do the analysis of that lean?

- bad leg
- camera lens

People will want to know... this could actually be fun to see until the day SpaceX provides raw telemetry for us lemmings!

Just glad it all went well and didn’t have to set an actual reminder to watch it... cause RTLS at VAFB

Obviously camera lens 'cause the light post on the left also leaned at the same angle.

Offline AUricle

Are you sure the booster's leaning, MATTBLAK? It could be just the camera angle.

My guess is it's a legitimate lean. If it were camera angle, everything would show that tilt, including the landing pad. I don't see that in the photo

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I'll be honest: while I was providing coverage for tonight's mission, it was a bit hard during the prelaunch countdown because the Internet would not cooperate.
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Are you sure the booster's leaning, MATTBLAK? It could be just the camera angle.
It's not just me; others elsewhere believe it is. This isn't the blue or gold dress thing, you know... ;)
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Look at the lamp posts. It's just distortion from a wide-angle lens.

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It's camera distortion. Note that the reflections in the water are in line with both the 1st stage and the red light post.

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I didn't think TV cameras often indulged in wide angle lenses? Anyway - when it's daylight we'll see what really happened.
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Time to ask SpaceX for some fiduciary markers on their cameras?

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Wow, hang on a moment... who’s gonna do the analysis of that lean?

- bad leg
- camera lens

People will want to know... this could actually be fun to see until the day SpaceX provides raw telemetry for us lemmings!

Just glad it all went well and didn’t have to set an actual reminder to watch it... cause RTLS at VAFB

Obviously camera lens 'cause the light post on the left also leaned at the same angle.

Indeed. People, pay attention to other things in the image. If I got a dollar for everyone someone (same people?) keep suggesting a landed stage lean without understanding hie a wide angle lens behaves when aimed slightly upwards, I would be a bit wealthier.

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Congrats SpaceX, that was fantastic.

I missed seeing the first stage telemetry on the more recent launches.

Second stage did a great job hauling the mail.
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Looks straight to me.  :)

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Indeed x 100, and it’s late, had a few beers, watching DAL/HOU. And I’m quite certain them legs just don’t fail stylishly.

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Spacecraft facts, converted back to their original metric units.

Mass 3000 kg
Height 4.7 m
Diameter 1.2 m
Solar Array 13 m²
L-Band SAR Antenna 35 m²
« Last Edit: 10/08/2018 03:31 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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I didn't think TV cameras often indulged in wide angle lenses? Anyway - when it's daylight we'll see what really happened.

This is the same kind of wide angle view that we always get on drone ships. And the same question gets asked every time.

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Some nice shots before launch.

Congratulations to SpaceX and CONAE for the successful launch!
« Last Edit: 10/08/2018 03:57 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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First one is a keeper Steven, thanks for posting.

Imagine if the Wright bros had camera drones...

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Fairing capture attempt?
Not this time

Very nice launch
Amazing landing

Anyone know how this looked from ground in the LA region?

Edit: And yes, Zach, we are reading your post and very appreciative.  Thanks!
edit2:  Thanks psloss!  I look forward to images and video.

I was all the way inland near San Bernardino and it looked amazing from here still. I could see the first stage exhaust look red as it started climbing above the horizon. The plume was lit up like crazy all the way until SECO. And could see the entry burn from the first stage.

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I didn't think TV cameras often indulged in wide angle lenses? Anyway - when it's daylight we'll see what really happened.

This is the same kind of wide angle view that we always get on drone ships. And the same question gets asked every time.
Just saying; some appear to have leaned more than others in the past. And they have. But most are upright. I imagine that the legs and mechanisms are strong enough not to ordinarily. So that's the last word from me on that...
« Last Edit: 10/08/2018 03:45 am by MATTBLAK »
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