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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #180 on: 04/25/2023 05:02 pm »
Maybe have a lunar orbiter investigate the planned landing site; such as LRO or Chandrayaan 2.
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #181 on: 04/25/2023 05:07 pm »
Status is still unknown - they did have comms until near the end of the landing. So lander may be lost.

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1650909424175792137

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HAKUTO-R Mission 1 statement. Nothing is confirmed, but it does not look good.

Edit to add: did say that the fact they still had comms so late in landing sequence is a significant achievement and a good sign for future missions
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #182 on: 04/25/2023 05:08 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1650909599816466434

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I just want to give ispace founder Takeshi Hakamada a hug right now. They lost communications with Hakuto-R just before it was scheduled to touch down. "We have to assume that we did not complete the landing on the lunar surface."

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #183 on: 04/25/2023 05:11 pm »
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1650909856272990226

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He emphasizes a "sustainable business model" to support missions 2 and 3. "We will keep going."

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #184 on: 04/25/2023 05:12 pm »
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #185 on: 04/25/2023 05:16 pm »
This team was extremely professional with an excellent lander. I loved their coverage, as they gave continuous updates as they could, expected comm blackouts and warnings that the graphics may not line up with actual events.

Hakuto-R flew a perfect mission right up to this point, and including a solid attempt. I hope they try again very soon; this was so very close, but it appears that the braking was not fast enough.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #186 on: 04/25/2023 05:31 pm »
Thank you, FST, for today's landing coverage!
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #187 on: 04/25/2023 05:32 pm »
Loss of carrier signal on the AMSAT feed :(

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #188 on: 04/25/2023 05:34 pm »
Why am I getting a strong sense of deja vu from this? Was it their second attempt or was there another company with a very similar landing attempt a couple of years ago?

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #189 on: 04/25/2023 05:36 pm »
Why am I getting a strong sense of deja vu from this? Was it their second attempt or was there another company with a very similar landing attempt a couple of years ago?

There are two to pick from: Israel's Beresheet lander (landing attempt April 2019), or India's Chandrayaan-2 lander (landing attempt September 2019).
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #190 on: 04/25/2023 05:36 pm »
One of the enigmas is from the Bochum antenna. They report signal up until 19:45, a couple of minutes after landing. Still being analyzed.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #191 on: 04/25/2023 05:49 pm »

There are two to pick from: Israel's Beresheet lander (landing attempt April 2019), or India's Chandrayaan-2 lander (landing attempt September 2019).

Yes, thank you. The Israeli one. The first privately funded landing effort. Didn't slow down enough. They too promised to try again. Wonder how they're doing.

Edit: and the company was SpaceIL not ispace of course :)
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #192 on: 04/25/2023 06:00 pm »

https://ispace-inc.com/news-en/?p=4651

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Status of ispace HAKUTO-R Mission 1 Lunar Lander

26 Apr, 2023

TOKYO—April 26, 2023—ispace, inc., (ispace) a global lunar exploration company, announced today that the HAKUTO-R Mission 1 Lunar Lander was expected to land on the surface of the Moon at 1:40 am JST on April 26, 2023. At this time HAKUTO-R Mission Control Center in Nihonbashi, Tokyo has not been able to confirm the success of the Lunar Lander.

ispace engineers and mission operations specialists in the Mission Control Center are currently working to confirm the current status of the lander. Further information on the status of the lander will be announced as it becomes available.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #193 on: 04/25/2023 06:06 pm »

There are two to pick from: Israel's Beresheet lander (landing attempt April 2019), or India's Chandrayaan-2 lander (landing attempt September 2019).

Yes, thank you. The Israeli one. The first privately funded landing effort. Didn't slow down enough. They too promised to try again. Wonder how they're doing.

There's a thread for their next attempt here: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52496.0

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #194 on: 04/25/2023 06:06 pm »

There are two to pick from: Israel's Beresheet lander (landing attempt April 2019), or India's Chandrayaan-2 lander (landing attempt September 2019).

Yes, thank you. The Israeli one. The first privately funded landing effort. Didn't slow down enough. They too promised to try again. Wonder how they're doing.

This is off topic, but last I heard they had raised about $70 million and were looking to try again in 2025 with a more complex orbiter / lander system.
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #195 on: 04/25/2023 07:15 pm »
Japan seems to be the hard-luck space faring nation of late, most recently with H3 and now this.
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #196 on: 04/25/2023 07:17 pm »
Astrobotics is next attempt, hopefully in next few months.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #197 on: 04/25/2023 07:20 pm »
ISpace Hakuto-R lander was likely lost during its Moon landing attempt today but still captured some amazing views.


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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #198 on: 04/25/2023 07:35 pm »
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1650944699123789833

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Try and tell Takeshi that ispace Mission 1 was a failure.

I just spoke to the CEO – thread below with his latest comments: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/25/ispace-moon-landing-watch-live.html

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Hakamada: "I'm really proud of the current result. We acquired the flight data until the very end of the landing. And I am very thankful, grateful to the employees, everyone who has supported this mission."

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Hakamada: "I need to have an engineering update on precisely until when we got data" but ispace's CTO said told him there was "communication almost to the very end of the landing."

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Hakamada: "However, after that, they lost communication so they are investigating what happened at the time of the touchdown ... we will know more analysis in a couple of hours."

"I don't have an update yet" on landing speed.

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Hakamada: "Our engineers [are trying] to establish communication and they're also analyzing the flight data acquired until the loss of the communication and then try to understand what happened."

"It's still early to say anything right now."

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Hakamada says ispace has not yet reached out to NASA or heard from the agency about helping image the landing site with the  LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter),

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Hakamada: "I cannot tell anything"  about whether it landed intact ... "I hope, I wish, but I cannot tell anything, any assumptions or confirmations at this moment."

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Hakamada: "There's a great chance for us to improve and increase our maturity of technology and mission operations for the next missions. That is our great achievement."

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Hakamada hasn't talked to Mission 1 customers yet, but his message to them "is that we already have a great asset in the flight data and we are the most advanced commercial transporter to the lunar surface ... keep continuing to trust us, and fly with us in the future."

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Hakamada: "Our camera has been taking some images, but it depends [on whether ispace got any back of landing] ... I cannot say exactly right now."
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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #199 on: 04/25/2023 07:39 pm »
The real enigma is why several dishes reported signals for 5 minutes after landing.

https://twitter.com/cosmos4u/status/1650946158406037518

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