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#20
by
zubenelgenubi
on 09 Oct, 2023 06:45
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NextSpaceflight, updated October 9:
NET December
Could = NET Q4 in NextSF jargon?
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#21
by
zubenelgenubi
on 26 Nov, 2023 05:24
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Open question: Launch delayed into 2024?
Edit December 13: Still no news--I suspect yes.
Edit December 16: News!
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#22
by
PM3
on 16 Dec, 2023 07:33
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The thread title has been updated from a launch in 2023 to NET 21 December. Source is nextspaceflight.com. Spaceflight Now also added Sarah today for a launch in December and put it before Ovzon, which is scheduled for 22 December. Starlink Group 7-9 accordingly slips from today (UTC) to 29 December.
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#23
by
catdlr
on 16 Dec, 2023 07:35
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The thread title has been updated from a launch in 2023 to NET 21 December. Source is nextspaceflight.com. Spaceflight Now also added Sarah today for a launch in December and put it before Ovzon, which is scheduled for 22 December. Starlink Group 7-9 accordingly slips from today (UTC) to 29 December.
3 launches and 15 days left in the year, with 7 days to turn around the pad. Going to be tight.
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#24
by
alugobi
on 16 Dec, 2023 16:10
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I hope that the peeps get some Christmas time off.
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#25
by
ZachS09
on 16 Dec, 2023 19:47
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I hope that the peeps get some Christmas time off.
They should. I think there has to be a rule that all SpaceX employees get a Christmas break.
Well, me saying that is ironic because James Webb launched two years ago on Christmas Day.
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#26
by
zubenelgenubi
on 16 Dec, 2023 22:49
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This disappeared for some reason.
NextSpaceflight, updated December 16:
Launch NET December 21st, 2023
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#27
by
Salo
on 16 Dec, 2023 23:35
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#28
by
Ken the Bin
on 17 Dec, 2023 01:29
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NGA Space Debris notice.
170204Z DEC 23
HYDROPAC 3945/23(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
1440Z TO 1705Z DAILY 21 THRU 26 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
31-21.0S 145-01.0W, 31-20.0S 147-36.0W,
52-50.0S 148-24.0W, 52-51.00S 144-45.0W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261805Z DEC 23.
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#29
by
VLN
on 17 Dec, 2023 04:24
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NGA Space Debris notice.
170204Z DEC 23
HYDROPAC 3945/23(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
...
B1286/23 NOTAMN
Q) MMFR/QRPCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/
A) MMFR
B) 2312211256
C) 2312261516
D) DLY 1256-1516
E) PROHIBITED AREA FOR LAUNCH OF ROCKET FALCON 9 SARAH-2
LATERAL LIMIT: AREA FORMED BY THE UNION OF THE FOLLOWING POINTS:
30 45N 120 50W
31 02N 120 17W
30 59N 120 17W
30 36N 120 18W
30 21N 120 24W
30 45N 120 50W
MMFR
F) MSL
G) UNL
This zone off the Mexican shore is a funny shape for a fairing recovery, but its alignment is consistent with a roughly 90 deg orbit inclination, as is the long axis of the stage 2 zone found by Ken the Bin (thanks!). The leading edges of the hazard times for launch and stage 2 are 104 min apart; trailing edges are 109 min apart.
These are the launch hazard windows for SARah
Start (PST) End (PST)
12/21 04:56am 12/21 07:16am
12/22 04:56am 12/22 07:16am
12/23 04:56am 12/23 07:16am
12/24 04:56am 12/24 07:16am
12/25 04:56am 12/25 07:16am
12/26 04:56am 12/26 07:16am
Interestingly, these 6 opportunities interleave with the two opportunities for
Firefly Alpha flight 4:
Start (PST) End (PST)
12/20 08:48am 12/20 10:26am
12/21 08:48am 12/21 10:26am
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#30
by
catdlr
on 17 Dec, 2023 21:55
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The weather currently on the California coast this week is the result of a cut-off low, which means that it meanders and could potentially stall before moving on eastward.
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#31
by
Ken the Bin
on 18 Dec, 2023 23:01
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I received NGA Space Debris notice. It looks like it might be effectively a Rocket Launching notice for this launch, but it runs from December 22 to 26, which would mean a one-day postponement.
Thoughts?
182313Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 877/23(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
1256Z TO 1516Z DAILY 22 THRU 26 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
30-30.00N 121-10.00W, 29-50.00N 120-52.00W,
29-51.00N 120-35.00W, 30-43.00N 120-21.00W,
31-16.00N 120-39.00W, 31-16.00N 120-52.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261616Z DEC 23.
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#32
by
spacenuance
on 19 Dec, 2023 05:24
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#33
by
Bean Kenobi
on 19 Dec, 2023 09:55
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I received NGA Space Debris notice. It looks like it might be effectively a Rocket Launching notice for this launch, but it runs from December 22 to 26, which would mean a one-day postponement.
Thoughts?
182313Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 877/23(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
1256Z TO 1516Z DAILY 22 THRU 26 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
30-30.00N 121-10.00W, 29-50.00N 120-52.00W,
29-51.00N 120-35.00W, 30-43.00N 120-21.00W,
31-16.00N 120-39.00W, 31-16.00N 120-52.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261616Z DEC 23.
Delay because of Firefly launch on the 20th ?
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#34
by
OneSpeed
on 19 Dec, 2023 10:56
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I received NGA Space Debris notice. It looks like it might be effectively a Rocket Launching notice for this launch, but it runs from December 22 to 26, which would mean a one-day postponement.
Maps from the NGA notices. The effective Rocket Launching notice aligns with the predicted 88.2° inclination.
Edit:
This notice from the USCG District 11 weekly Local Notice to Mariners that came out today still has December 21. Times are PST; add 8 hours for UTC.
Added area A to the LHA map.
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#35
by
Ken the Bin
on 19 Dec, 2023 20:51
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This notice from the USCG District 11 weekly Local Notice to Mariners that came out today still has December 21. Times are PST; add 8 hours for UTC.
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA-VANDENBERG AFB-HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS
Hazardous operations will be conducted from Vandenberg AFB, CA for Western Range 2346 from 4:26am on 21 December, 2023 until 7:16am on 25 December, 2023. Hazardous operation areas are bounded by the following coordinates:
Hazard Area A:
34-41-00N 120-42-00W
34-41-00N 120-25-00W
34-18-00N 120-25-00W
34-03-00N 120-35-00W
33-34-00N 120-36-00W
33-32-00N 120-40-00W
34-41-00N 120-42-00W (CLOSING THE FIRST POINT)
Hazard Area B:
30-30-00N 121-10-00W
29-50-00N 120-52-00W
29-51-00N 120-35-00W
30-43-00N 120-21-00W
31-16-00N 120-39-00W
31-16-00N 120-52-00W
30-30-00N 121-10-00W (CLOSING THE FIRST POINT)
Mariners are advised to remain clear of these areas for the duration of operations. For more details or comments contact Vandenberg AFB at 805-606-8825 or on VHF-FM Chan. 06 or 16.
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#36
by
VLN
on 19 Dec, 2023 23:31
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Delay because of Firefly launch on the 20th ?
The interleaving of their launch times existed a few days ago. Surely the range administration would ensure both companies knew about it, while also deconflicting the VSFB staff.
I figure both companies will react to the weather, which has some wind in it. Might be a double-launch Friday!
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#37
by
GewoonLukas_
on 20 Dec, 2023 07:25
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Große Dinge werfen ihre Schatten voraus! 🤗Das @BaainBw ist mit beiden #SARah Satelliten🛰️auf dem Weg zur Rakete 🚀. Am 22.12.2023 ist es dann endlich so weit. Nach Übergabe an #CIR wird das #ZAbbAufkl seine Fähigkeiten zur Aufklärung für die #Bundeswehr weiter steigern können.💪
Great things cast their shadows ahead! 🤗The @BaainBw is on the way to the rocket with both #SARah satellites🛰️. On December 22nd, 2023 the time has finally come. After handing over to #CIR, the #ZAbbAufkl will be able to further increase its reconnaissance capabilities for the #Bundeswehr.💪
https://twitter.com/cirbw/status/1737143109618667798Die letzten Meter bis zum geplanten Start der beiden Reflektor-Satelliten sind geschafft. Übermorgen sollen sie von der Vandenberg Space Force Base in Kalifornien/🇺🇸 aus ins All starten. Dann sind alle #SARah Aufklärungssatelliten für die #Bundeswehr im Orbit.#Beschaffungläuft
The last few meters until the planned launch of the two reflector satellites have been completed. The day after tomorrow they are scheduled to launch into space from the Vandenberg Space Force Base in California/🇺🇸. Then all #SARah reconnaissance satellites for the #Bundeswehr will be in orbit.#Procurementongoing
https://twitter.com/BaainBw/status/1737384075562774783
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#38
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 20 Dec, 2023 16:55
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Fresh NOTAMs just out showing the launch slipping to December 23 (back-up days post-Christmas, December 27-30). This should allow for Firefly next door to re-attempt launching on the 22nd which seems to have better weather forecasts than today or tomorrow.
B1434/23 NOTAMR B1387/23
Q) MMFR/QRPCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/
A) MMFR
B) 2312231256
C) 2312301521
D) 23 27 1256-1516, 28 29 30 1256-1521
E) PROHIBITED AREA FOR LAUNCH OF ROCKET FALCON 9 SARAH-2
LATERAL LIMIT AREA FORMED BY THE UNION OF THE FOLLOWING POINTS:
30 45N 120 50W
31 02N 120 17W
30 59N 120 17W
30 36N 120 18W
30 21N 120 24W
30 45N 120 50W
MMFR
F) MSL
G) UNL
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#39
by
SpaceFinnOriginal
on 20 Dec, 2023 19:53
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Große Dinge werfen ihre Schatten voraus! 🤗Das @BaainBw ist mit beiden #SARah Satelliten🛰️auf dem Weg zur Rakete 🚀. Am 22.12.2023 ist es dann endlich so weit. Nach Übergabe an #CIR wird das #ZAbbAufkl seine Fähigkeiten zur Aufklärung für die #Bundeswehr weiter steigern können.💪
Can anyone post here SARah logo which is seen on the fairings?