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LKW-1 - CZ-2D - JSLC, LC43/603 - December 3, 2017 (04:11 UTC)
by
SmallKing
on 21 Oct, 2017 04:54
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#1
by
Satori
on 21 Oct, 2017 09:12
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Looks like the launch could take place in the next days (?)
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#2
by
SmallKing
on 22 Oct, 2017 13:20
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Looks like the launch could take place in the next days (?)
This CZ-2D arrived at JSLC on Oct. 16, so the launch date is definitely in November
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#3
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Moon Rabbit
on 22 Oct, 2017 16:28
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#4
by
SmallKing
on 23 Oct, 2017 04:04
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#5
by
chewi
on 10 Nov, 2017 07:45
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#6
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 10 Nov, 2017 07:55
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Maybe for this launch?
Andrew Jones @AJ_FI · 35 minutes ago
Next duo of Chinese Gaojing (Superview) commercial EO satellites to launch in December, a year after the first couple.
ChinaSpaceflight @cnspaceflight
【高景一号03/04星】四维世景公司的乔亦实。两颗卫星将于今年12月底发射。
One of the CZ-2D at Jiuquan might be for the GJ-1 pair,
but with a launch date of late December I am sure that another one will fly before it (and remember the last two flew from Taiyuan!), so no.
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#7
by
SmallKing
on 18 Nov, 2017 04:13
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#8
by
zubenelgenubi
on 20 Nov, 2017 16:19
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#9
by
Satori
on 29 Nov, 2017 18:15
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Launch will take place around 0842UTC according to 9ifly Chinese space forum.
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#10
by
zubenelgenubi
on 30 Nov, 2017 03:08
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Launch will take place around 0842UTC according to 9ifly Chinese space forum.
Here's a chain of deduction...
Given the above information, and if YG-31 is the newest spacecraft in the JB-6 program:
Then this launch into SSO would launch at the same time UTC, to the
minute, as YG-7, the 3rd member of the JB-6 program. (Also, a near match in launch dates--YG-7, December 9; YG-31, December 2)
And, therefore, would not YG-31 enter a similar SSO orbit with the same initial LTDN as YG-7?
http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/China/Yaogan/Yaoganprog.phpIs YG-31 meant to replace YG-7, or augment its capabilities?
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#11
by
Liss
on 30 Nov, 2017 08:19
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
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#12
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Phillip Clark
on 30 Nov, 2017 08:25
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
A Jianbing-6 follow-on series.
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#13
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Satori
on 30 Nov, 2017 14:29
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
From what series do you think they are, Liss?
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#14
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Skyrocket
on 30 Nov, 2017 16:49
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
A Jianbing-6 follow-on series.
It is hard to see, if there is a difference between the JB-6 and a JB-6 follow-on series: Same launch vehicle, same fairing, same launch site and same orbit.
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#15
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Liss
on 30 Nov, 2017 17:20
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
A Jianbing-6 follow-on series.
It is hard to see, if there is a difference between the JB-6 and a JB-6 follow-on series: Same launch vehicle, same fairing, same launch site and same orbit.
I know. There were multiple arguments for the new type:
(1) Four years interval before YG-24 against three years life expectancy of JB-6;
(2) A Chinese report on cameras test on YG-24 which is logical for a new design;
(3) Chief designer/administrator name for YG-24/GF-9/YG-30 was published but not for any of JB-6;
(4) Ground resolution of 2 meters for JB-6 and sub-meter for YG-24.
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#16
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Galactic Penguin SST
on 01 Dec, 2017 05:44
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Not sure if this is related to this launch, if so this won't fly until December 3:
A3661/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:33 2017Note that there is another notice (A3662/17) with the exact same words except for listing the effective date as 23 December! I guess this one is a fluke?
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#17
by
chewi
on 01 Dec, 2017 07:05
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Also this one for Dec 3:
A3663/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED
BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 03
DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:35 2017
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#18
by
SmallKing
on 01 Dec, 2017 14:45
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#19
by
input~2
on 01 Dec, 2017 19:13
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A3661/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:33 2017
A3663/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:35 2017 These two NOTAMed areas (in purple below) appear to be close to those for Shiyan-5 launch with CZ-2D on Nov 25, 2013 (in red below)
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#20
by
input~2
on 01 Dec, 2017 19:28
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Launch code could be "01-84"
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#21
by
zubenelgenubi
on 01 Dec, 2017 19:43
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A3661/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:33 2017
A3663/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 03 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:35 2017
These two NOTAMed areas (in purple below) appear to be close to those for Shiyan-5 launch with CZ-2D on Nov 25, 2013 (in red below)
Drop zones for the first stage and payload fairing, consecutively?
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#22
by
input~2
on 01 Dec, 2017 19:45
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According to Chinese forums the payload will be known as "陆地资源勘查卫星星座01星"
Pinyin: Lùdì zīyuán kānchá wèixīng xīngzuò 01 xīng
which translates as: Land resource exploration satellite constellation, satellite#1
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#23
by
input~2
on 01 Dec, 2017 19:48
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Drop zones for the first stage and payload fairing, consecutively?
Yep!
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#24
by
zubenelgenubi
on 01 Dec, 2017 20:01
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I do not believe YG-24 and YG-30 (and GF-9 too) are members of the JB-6 series.
A Jianbing-6 follow-on series.
It is hard to see, if there is a difference between the JB-6 and a JB-6 follow-on series: Same launch vehicle, same fairing, same launch site and same orbit.
I know. There were multiple arguments for the new type:
(1) Four years interval before YG-24 against three years life expectancy of JB-6;
(2) A Chinese report on cameras test on YG-24 which is logical for a new design;
(3) Chief designer/administrator name for YG-24/GF-9/YG-30 was published but not for any of JB-6;
(4) Ground resolution of 2 meters for JB-6 and sub-meter for YG-24.
A 9ifly member who had good source said this sat would be the most powerful optical bird launched by Chinese, or a home made KH11
http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=90035&extra=&page=3&mobile=0
Please let me re-state to understand:
The hypothesis is that YG-24, GF-9, and YG-30 are members of a JB-(# unknown) series of optical reconnaissance satellites, a follow-on to JB-6.
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Are we seeing, in the newest data being revealed about this launch, that this satellite (or satellites?) could be different from the hypothesized YG-24/GF-9/YG-30 series?
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My semi-educated impression is that KH-11 level resolution requires a satellite carrying a telescope of a size too large and mass too massive to launch on a CZ-2D. Would a
Worldview-class satellite with resolution of 0.3 or 0.2 meters be a more reasonable fit? Is the KH-11 reference hyperbole?
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#25
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 02 Dec, 2017 14:34
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According to Chinese forums the payload will be known as "陆地资源勘查卫星星座01星"
Pinyin: Lùdì zīyuán kānchá wèixīng xīngzuò 01 xīng
which translates as: Land resource exploration satellite constellation, satellite#1
Note that this is only a rumor (although it's, well, just a cover name anyway.
). In this case the name can be shortened to LZK-01 (or LZKW-01) in the same manner as the TJS series.
A 9ifly member who had good source said this sat would be the most powerful optical bird launched by Chinese, or a home made KH11
http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=90035&extra=&page=3&mobile=0
This is actually ambiguous because the same member said that there will be another launch - from Taiyuan - that will follw this one very soon, and this sentence can refer to either of them!
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#26
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input~2
on 02 Dec, 2017 19:56
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Portions of airways overflying 1st stage and fairing drop zones will be closed between 04:00 and 04:30 UTC
A3672/17 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y2:MEPEP -LUVAR. 2.L888:LUVAR-MUMAN. 3.Y1:MEPEP - N3507.6E10005.6. 03 DEC 04:00 2017 UNTIL 03 DEC 04:30 2017. CREATED: 02 DEC 15:08 2017
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#27
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:28
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Apparently launch has occurred.
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#28
by
GELORD
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:33
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#29
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:38
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#30
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:44
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#31
by
GELORD
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:49
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#32
by
jcm
on 03 Dec, 2017 03:51
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/tech/2017-12/03/c_1122050051.htm
Xinhua News Agency, Jiuquan, December 3 (Li Guoli and Li Xiaofan) At 1211 on December 3, China successfully launched the Land Survey Satellite No. 1 at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center using the Long March No.2 carrier rocket, and the satellite entered the reservation track.
According to reports, the satellite is mainly used to carry out remote sensing of land resources.
This is the 257th flight of the Long March series carrier rocket.
satellite
Satellite name is 将陆地勘查卫星一号 Jiang ludi kancha weixing yi hao, Land Survey Satellite 1
[edit: that first character jiang maybe isn't part of the name, to judge from the post above]
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#33
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Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2017 04:02
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#34
by
jcm
on 03 Dec, 2017 04:03
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#35
by
chewi
on 03 Dec, 2017 04:10
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China launches land exploration satellite
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-12/03/c_136796994.htmJIUQUAN, Dec. 3 (Xinhua) -- China launched a land exploration satellite into a preset orbit from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in the Gobi desert at 12:11 p.m. Sunday Beijing Time.
The satellite is mainly used for remote sensing exploration of land resources.
A Long March-2D rocket carried the satellite into space.
The launch was the 257th mission of the Long March rocket series.
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#36
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GELORD
on 03 Dec, 2017 04:56
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#37
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2017 04:58
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This launch used CZ-2D s/n Y47.
Exact launch time was 04:11:14.524 UTC.
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#38
by
input~2
on 03 Dec, 2017 06:35
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Object cataloged:
2017-077A/43034 in 489 x 502 km x 97.46°
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#39
by
input~2
on 03 Dec, 2017 06:52
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#40
by
input~2
on 03 Dec, 2017 07:00
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Object cataloged:
2017-077A/43034 in 489 x 502 km x 97.46°
RAAN of 50° and altitude not far from those for YG-21 (46°/484 x 499 km) or YG-26 (53°/481 x 491 km)
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#41
by
SciNews
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:19
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Long March-2D launches remote sensing satellite
A Long March-2D launch vehicle (Chang Zheng-2D) launched a new remote sensing satellite from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, China, on 3 December 2017, at 04:11 UTC (12:11 Beijing Time).
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#42
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Phillip Clark
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:35
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I wonder why the CZ-2D is the only Chinese launch vehicle which de-orbits the second stage after the satellite has separated in orbit.
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#43
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Steven Pietrobon
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:36
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Hexagonal shaped spacecraft with three solar panels.
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#44
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Steven Pietrobon
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:39
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I wonder why the CZ-2D is the only launch vehicle which de-orbits the second stage after the satellite has separated in orbit.
Do you mean the only Chinese launch vehicle? Falcon 9, Delta II and Atlas V have deorbited their second stages. Probably others as well. Perhaps the four vernier engines with their lower thrust and easier control enables the deorbit.
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#45
by
eeergo
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:40
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#46
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Phillip Clark
on 03 Dec, 2017 09:47
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I wonder why the CZ-2D is the only launch vehicle which de-orbits the second stage after the satellite has separated in orbit.
Do you mean the only Chinese launch vehicle? Falcon 9, Delta II and Atlas V have deorbited their second stages. Probably others as well. Perhaps the four vernier engines with their lower thrust and easier control enables the deorbit.
Just edited the original post so that it specifies Chinese, which was my intention.
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#47
by
Liss
on 03 Dec, 2017 10:59
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Close in height to YG-12/YG-21 but slightly higher.
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#48
by
gwiz
on 03 Dec, 2017 11:17
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Does the similarity to Jilin-1 Optical mean the same bus was used, or just coincidence?
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#49
by
SmallKing
on 03 Dec, 2017 11:25
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Does the similarity to Jilin-1 Optical mean the same bus was used, or just coincidence?
No this satellite is more advanced
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#50
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Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2017 11:43
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#51
by
input~2
on 03 Dec, 2017 14:14
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#52
by
SciNews
on 03 Dec, 2017 16:02
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A better view of the control center display
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#53
by
input~2
on 06 Dec, 2017 21:16
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4 more objects have been cataloged; could be
4 retro rocket fairing tops from the 2nd stage2017-077B/43035 in 479 x 503 km x 97.37°
2017-077C/43036 in 493 x 513 km x 97.59°
2017-077D/43037 in 423 x 499 km x 97.55°
2017-077E/43038 in 451 x 505 km x 97.34°
