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its quite laughable that only a certified tech is allowed to touch what looks like piece of styrofoam protecting the windows. no wonder costs have skyrocketed. inefficiencies like these add up. either simplify the procedures and not need a specialised "window tech" to do a simple removal or design the window to do the same!

It's not styrofoam, they're hard plastic impact panels to prevent any damage to the windows while work is being done to the interior systems. They're attached by screws to the window's frame, which is why only someone certified can remove them - the screws need to be turned at a certain torque to prevent damage to the frame.
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #81 on: 04/02/2024 09:43 pm »
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1775248553742414301

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NASA is working with Orion spacecraft prime contractor Lockheed Martin to resolve a handful of issues that came up late last year during ground testing, forcing the delay of Artemis II to September 2025.

Philip Sloss overviews:

Article link:  https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/04/resolving-artemis-ii-issues/
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #82 on: 04/03/2024 12:12 am »
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NASA is working with Orion spacecraft prime contractor Lockheed Martin to resolve a handful of issues that came up late last year during ground testing, forcing the delay of Artemis II to September 2025.

This delay was announced back in January (https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-shares-progress-toward-early-artemis-moon-missions-with-crew/), as were delays of Artemis III to September 2026 (same press release) and Artemis IV to September 2028 (https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/nasa-delays-next-artemis-missions-to-2025-and-2026/). So the new thing in the NSF article is more details about the cause of the delay, not the fact of the delay itself.

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #83 on: 04/04/2024 08:16 pm »
https://twitter.com/NASA_Orion/status/1775953334387503255

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New Orion pics👀✨

At @NASAKennedy, teams moved the #Artemis II stack into a vacuum chamber, where it will undergo electromagnetic compatibility and interference testing to confirm Orion can safely fly through harsh electric fields.
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #84 on: 04/12/2024 08:42 am »
Artemis II Orion Vac Chamber Lift and Load Operations April 2024

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On April 4, 2024, a team lifts the Artemis II Orion spacecraft into a vacuum chamber inside the Operations and Checkout Building at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, where it will undergo electromagnetic compatibility and interference testing.



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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #85 on: 09/05/2024 02:29 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1831687728997556512

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An exploration program based on SLS and Orion has long been criticized as being hardware-poor. Being hardware-rich means you can test a lot. Being hardware-poor forces you into difficult corners like this:

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #86 on: 09/06/2024 04:48 pm »
Moon Minute: Orion Testing, Underway Recovery Testing, + Egress Basket Testing



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Sep 6, 2024  #NASA #Artemis #OrionWant the latest update for NASA's Artemis campaign? Learn about how the Orion spacecraft is experiencing vacuum chamber testing, Artemis II astronauts complete an underway recovery test, and the emergency egress baskets undergo drop testing.

Credit: NASA
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #87 on: 09/19/2024 08:36 pm »
cross-post for Artemis II heatshield issues:

Phillip Sloss Report:

Artemis II alternatives for Orion heat shield issue


https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58223.msg2625904#new
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #88 on: 09/22/2024 12:12 pm »
cross-post for Artemis II heatshield issues:

Phillip Sloss Report:

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Waiting for Artemis II Orion heatshield decision, Starship sidetracked by regulations power play?

01:14 Orion environment test article to finish crew-rating abort certifications

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58223.msg2626669#msg2626669
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #89 on: 09/22/2024 12:34 pm »
Moon Minute: Orion Testing, Underway Recovery Testing, + Egress Basket Testing



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Sep 6, 2024  #NASA #Artemis #OrionWant the latest update for NASA's Artemis campaign? Learn about how the Orion spacecraft is experiencing vacuum chamber testing, Artemis II astronauts complete an underway recovery test, and the emergency egress baskets undergo drop testing.

Credit: NASA

Has anyone ever ridden in an egress basket? All the testing I can remember back in the shuttle days and now are unmanned.

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #90 on: 09/22/2024 12:51 pm »
Moon Minute: Orion Testing, Underway Recovery Testing, + Egress Basket Testing


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Sep 6, 2024  #NASA #Artemis #OrionWant the latest update for NASA's Artemis campaign? Learn about how the Orion spacecraft is experiencing vacuum chamber testing, Artemis II astronauts complete an underway recovery test, and the emergency egress baskets undergo drop testing.

Credit: NASA

Has anyone ever ridden in an egress basket? All the testing I can remember back in the shuttle days and now are unmanned.

Two weeks ago. But I will admit that, through clever editing, the departure of the test team might have been staged after the testers were transferred down by elevator to the baskets below, and then filming resumed. I agree. I have seen many video tests of these, all without a person on board. I'm sure someone here will prove me wrong.

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #91 on: 09/22/2024 04:02 pm »
During my time on the Shuttle program, I remember individuals, who had been working the program from almost the start, say that NASA deemed the baskets to be too dangerous for someone to ride during test. Was someone injured in the early days and testing was limited to mass simulators? All hear say on my part. But ... if people are suppose to ride these in an emergency egress of the tower, if its not safe for people to test ride, how is it safe to ride in an emergency? Curious people want to know  ;)

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #92 on: 09/22/2024 04:08 pm »
During my time on the Shuttle program, I remember individuals, who had been working the program from almost the start, say that NASA deemed the baskets to be too dangerous for someone to ride during test. Was someone injured in the early days and testing was limited to mass simulators? All hear say on my part. But ... if people are suppose to ride these in an emergency egress of the tower, if its not safe for people to test ride, how is it safe to ride in an emergency? Curious people want to know  ;)
Similar to ejection seats on a fighter or the LAS on a capsule. Fairly high risk of injury, but better than certain death of not using the system.

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #93 on: 10/27/2024 08:13 pm »
Phillip Sloss updates the Artemis heatshield:

Time   Chapter Name
14:20 The big picture: waiting for big decisions, announcements, updates

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54243.msg2636824#msg2636824
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #94 on: 10/28/2024 02:55 pm »
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NASA's Lori Glaze says at the LEAG meeting this morning that an investigation has determine the root cause of the Orion heat shield erosion seen on Artemis 1, confirmed with arcjet testing. She declined to disclose that root cause.
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1850925398420328806
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She says NASA is now doing testing to see how to mitigate that erosion on Artemis 2. That should be completed by the end of November, after which agency leadership will decide how to proceed.
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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #95 on: 10/29/2024 03:03 am »
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/for-some-reason-nasa-is-treating-orions-heat-shield-problems-as-a-secret/

For some reason, NASA is treating Orion’s heat shield problems as a secret
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #96 on: 11/03/2024 11:50 am »
Phillip Sloss Weekly Update Video:

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Artemis II preps on hold until year end for heatshield investigation, SLS KSC production ramp up

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In this video, I'll review the NASA update on Orion base heatshield investigation this past week.  The update was a mixed bag: a root cause was found, but the space agency is declining to elaborate.  They are performing more testing for Artemis II flight rationale, but they won't say what decisions were made for a second unit that was already built for Artemis III.

We may have to wait until the end of the year to see how comprehensive a public announcement is, and with Artemis II stacking on hold for most or all of that time, chances of another delay to the target launch date are increasing.  Currently the official target date is next September, but there may be no schedule margin left by the end of this year if preparations remain on standby.

This video covers the heatshield investigation update and plans for work on Artemis II hardware in the meantime.  Boeing started expansion of their SLS Core Stage production to the Kennedy Space Center almost two years ago, and we're now seeing the groundwork nearing completion.  In the video, I'll take a first look at the engine section integration facility now at capacity, with the other Boeing SLS production facility in the Vehicle Assembly Building nearing activation.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

Stories cited:
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/nasa-identifies-root-cause-of-orion-heat-shield-char-loss/

https://spacenews.com/nasa-finds-but-does-not-disclose-root-cause-of-orion-heat-shield-erosion/

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/for-some-reason-nasa-is-treating-orions-heat-shield-problems-as-a-secret/#gsc.tab=0

https://spacenews.com/ground-systems-could-delay-artemis-2-launch/


00:00 Intro
01:20 Orion heatshield investigation continues
03:43 Artemis II schedule uncertainty also continues
09:35 Artemis II Core Stage prepared for breakover and lift
12:03 Boeing SLS Core Stage facility in VAB High Bay 2 nearing activation
14:18 EGS work on Mobile Launcher-1 in the VAB in the meantime
15:46 Boeing SLS SSPF worksite at engine section capacity
21:39 Other news and notes
23:35 Thanks for watching!

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #97 on: 12/01/2024 02:23 pm »
Phillip Sloss Weekly Report in Artemis II:

Will December 2024 bring updates to the Artemis schedule?

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Dec 1, 2024
In this video I'll take a look at what could be ahead in the final month of 2024, now that Thanksgiving week is ending.  At the Kennedy Space Center, the rest of Artemis II stacking waits for a possible December decision on the Orion heatshield, and preparations are being made to stand up the Artemis II SLS Core Stage for some offline work in the meantime.

I'll also go over the two SLS elements that were stacked, an Artemis II flight crew KSC visit before Thanksgiving, and a few other news and notes.

With possible decisions before the end of the year and possible announcements around the change in administrations, there's time to take a look at watch items for Artemis II, III, and the big picture for Artemis on a relatively slow news week.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

00:00 Intro
00:40 Artemis II SLS booster aft assembly stacking recap
04:06 Artemis II flight crew visit to KSC
05:15 VAB High Bay 2 notes, preparing to host Artemis II SLS Core Stage
06:03 Other news and notes, HLS Cargo awards and an Orion heatshield delivery
08:27 Big picture outlook as 2024 ends
12:54 Thanks for watching!

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Re: EM-2/Artemis 2 Orion Construction and Processing Updates
« Reply #98 on: 12/04/2024 07:28 pm »
Phillip Sloss Special report

What do we know pre-decision about Orion heatshield investigation?

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Dec 4, 2024
We don't know for certain when, but NASA's Orion base heatshield investigation is expected to culminate in a set of decisions by the end of 2024, and this video takes a look at what is known ahead of that announcement.  The Avcoat thermal protection material ablated away in larger pieces than predicted during the Artemis I re-entry back to Earth from the Moon two years ago.

After almost two years, NASA recently said it now understands what happened, but hasn't explained that publicly or said how it is going to resolve the issue with the next two heatshields that were already built.  In this video I'll recap what has been said by NASA or by watchdog groups and what decisions are anticipated in the last few weeks of the year.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

00:00 Intro
01:02 Orion heatshield design history
02:52 Artemis I lunar skip re-entry
07:00 Description of heatshield performance and issue(s) from Artemis I
11:00 History of the heatshield investigation so far
17:56 Where are we now?
21:15 How lunar re-entry trajectories could influence launch availability
24:25 Looking at upcoming heatshield decisions
26:40 Thanks for watching!



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