Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Hispasat 30W-6 (1F) : March 6, 2018 - DISCUSSION  (Read 164933 times)

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All recorery fleet is returning from their positions towards the Cape - I am afraid that F9 will not fly this week.

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Sorry for my ignorance - is this mission going to be the first launch of Block 5?

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Sorry for my ignorance - is this mission going to be the first launch of Block 5?
No. This game is the second to last new block 4.

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All recorery fleet is returning from their positions towards the Cape - I am afraid that F9 will not fly this week.

So I'm guessing if they plan to send the ships back out then we are looking at another week's delay? Anyone have any idea why?

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All recorery fleet is returning from their positions towards the Cape - I am afraid that F9 will not fly this week.

So I'm guessing if they plan to send the ships back out then we are looking at another week's delay? Anyone have any idea why?

Depends if they come all of the way back into port, looks to me not looking too hard that the tug is still out there and that only Go Searcher came in, maybe for a resupply?

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Update on #Falcon9 and Hispasat: The #SpaceX recovery fleet has been called back to Port Canaveral. They had been out for over a week, so this is understandable.

If SpaceX still intends to recover the first stage, the earliest the launch could take place is next week.

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per marine traffic, GO pursuit is about to enter Port, hoping for just a resupply.
"The Starship has landed"

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Depends if they come all of the way back into port, looks to me not looking too hard that the tug is still out there and that only Go Searcher came in, maybe for a resupply?
Go Quest and Go Pursuit made resupply after postpone from 25 Feb in Marsh Harbour.
Several hours after SpaceX noted that F9 is ready for launch and waiting for new launch date, complete fleet - Go Pursuit and Go Quest together with OCISLYs tug Hawk started moving back towards the Cape.

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Depends if they come all of the way back into port, looks to me not looking too hard that the tug is still out there and that only Go Searcher came in, maybe for a resupply?
Go Quest and Go Pursuit made resupply after postpone from 25 Feb in Marsh Harbour.
Several hours after SpaceX noted that F9 is ready for launch and waiting for new launch date, complete fleet - Go Pursuit and Go Quest together with OCISLYs tug Hawk started moving back towards the Cape.

Look at the weather in the Atlantic...

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/late-week-storm-may-become-strongest-noreaster-since-januarys-bomb-cyclone/70004279

Mostly talks about the effect on the coast, but apparently the weather out on the Atlantic is horrendous.

Might be first case of "we want this booster back, so launch is delayed while we wait for acceptable weather at the recovery area".
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Depends if they come all of the way back into port, looks to me not looking too hard that the tug is still out there and that only Go Searcher came in, maybe for a resupply?
Go Quest and Go Pursuit made resupply after postpone from 25 Feb in Marsh Harbour.
Several hours after SpaceX noted that F9 is ready for launch and waiting for new launch date, complete fleet - Go Pursuit and Go Quest together with OCISLYs tug Hawk started moving back towards the Cape.

Look at the weather in the Atlantic...

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/late-week-storm-may-become-strongest-noreaster-since-januarys-bomb-cyclone/70004279

Mostly talks about the effect on the coast, but apparently the weather out on the Atlantic is horrendous.

Might be first case of "we want this booster back, so launch is delayed while we wait for acceptable weather at the recovery area".

Just for confirmation: http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display.cgi?a=natla_height
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HAWK is back in port with OCISLY, GO Quest also is back
"The Starship has landed"

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HAWK is back in port with OCISLY, GO Quest also is back

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SpaceX #Hispasat update: Now targeting #Falcon9 for Monday into Tuesday from LC 40. Airspace closure in effect from 2230 Monday to 0330 Tuesday (0330 to 0830 UTC).

https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/969562861201776641

So no scorching recovery attempt, then?

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HAWK is back in port with OCISLY, GO Quest also is back

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Emre Kelly

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SpaceX #Hispasat update: Now targeting #Falcon9 for Monday into Tuesday from LC 40. Airspace closure in effect from 2230 Monday to 0330 Tuesday (0330 to 0830 UTC).

https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/969562861201776641

So no scorching recovery attempt, then?

And lose the expensive Titanium Gridfins?
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HAWK is back in port with OCISLY, GO Quest also is back

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Emre Kelly

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SpaceX #Hispasat update: Now targeting #Falcon9 for Monday into Tuesday from LC 40. Airspace closure in effect from 2230 Monday to 0330 Tuesday (0330 to 0830 UTC).

https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/969562861201776641

So no scorching recovery attempt, then?

And lose the expensive Titanium Gridfins?

I'd think it's easier to swap with aluminum fins (or none at all) than it is to get OCISLY back out in 3 days with the offshore weather system.

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I think they'll just watch the weather, send out OCISLY when they can and adjust the launch date to fit.

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I think they'll just watch the weather, send out OCISLY when they can and adjust the launch date to fit.
Yeah, seems to largely dissipate between 48 and 96 hours from now.  Looks like if they planned the trip right, the could on station in 84-90 hours with wave states looking like this.  Rough, but maybe not too rough?

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The weather does look terrible, and there's a nor-easter of sorts (super windy and rainy/floods/crazy high tides) hitting where I am in New England... That being said, it could subside enough possibly by the time of the launch...

At this point we really just have to wait and see how the weather and the ocean's swells in particular look... If the fleet leaves again in the next day or so or not... Also when it rolls out of the HIF for launch if they've taken the TI fins off for aluminum or not at all...

 Does anyone know if they ever repaired Roomba, as if they were to recover the first stage in these big swells, this is the time they absolutely want it... last I saw pictures a couple weeks ago it was at the port near OCISLY and i think I remember people saying they were working on it, but that the damage was extensive...


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I think they'll just watch the weather, send out OCISLY when they can and adjust the launch date to fit.
Yeah, seems to largely dissipate between 48 and 96 hours from now.  Looks like if they planned the trip right, the could on station in 84-90 hours with wave states looking like this.  Rough, but maybe not too rough?

That's still showing 15 foot waves at the ASDS position.

Offline Nehkara

I think they'll just watch the weather, send out OCISLY when they can and adjust the launch date to fit.
Yeah, seems to largely dissipate between 48 and 96 hours from now.  Looks like if they planned the trip right, the could on station in 84-90 hours with wave states looking like this.  Rough, but maybe not too rough?

That's still showing 15 foot waves at the ASDS position.

They've landed successfully in heavy seas before... it would definitely make this by far the most difficult landing to date - adding the slim margin to the large waves.

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I think they'll just watch the weather, send out OCISLY when they can and adjust the launch date to fit.
Yeah, seems to largely dissipate between 48 and 96 hours from now.  Looks like if they planned the trip right, the could on station in 84-90 hours with wave states looking like this.  Rough, but maybe not too rough?

That's still showing 15 foot waves at the ASDS position.

They've landed successfully in heavy seas before... it would definitely make this by far the most difficult landing to date - adding the slim margin to the large waves.
I think a day later and the waves look much better.
tues/wed around midnight is what 108 hrs after noontime today.
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