Something I can't see in the reuters write-up (my emphasis):QuoteJeff Foust @jeff_foust 31m31 minutes agoIf the Google translation is correct, Amos 17 will launcher free under the contract for the lost Amos 6 satellite, with a reused 1st stage.https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/920664676068884480The Spacecom press release (in Hebrew) is attached for anyone who can read it.
Jeff Foust @jeff_foust 31m31 minutes agoIf the Google translation is correct, Amos 17 will launcher free under the contract for the lost Amos 6 satellite, with a reused 1st stage.
2. Consideration of the launch servicesThe consideration paid under the Amos 6 satellite launch agreement prior to the amendment will be recorded In full for a Amos 17 launch and no additional charge will be required for the Amos 17 launch.3. Conditions for launch1.3 Conditions have been agreed with regard to scheduling the launch and priorities in various cases. They were also arranged Conditions enabling the launch of the satellite using a Falcon 9 launcher that includes the first stage flown Previously.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/18/2017 03:31 pmSomething I can't see in the reuters write-up (my emphasis):QuoteJeff Foust @jeff_foust 31m31 minutes agoIf the Google translation is correct, Amos 17 will launcher free under the contract for the lost Amos 6 satellite, with a reused 1st stage.https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/920664676068884480The Spacecom press release (in Hebrew) is attached for anyone who can read it.For what it's worth, the Google translation of the press release specifies both the free launch and the used stage quite clearly (emphasis mine):Quote2. Consideration of the launch servicesThe consideration paid under the Amos 6 satellite launch agreement prior to the amendment will be recorded In full for a Amos 17 launch and no additional charge will be required for the Amos 17 launch.3. Conditions for launch1.3 Conditions have been agreed with regard to scheduling the launch and priorities in various cases. They were also arranged Conditions enabling the launch of the satellite using a Falcon 9 launcher that includes the first stage flown Previously.
I can't remember if anyone has already identified it, but new filings were posted today for for Mission 1381, operations to begin NET November 28th from LC-40.https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80703https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80700
Quote from: vaporcobra on 10/20/2017 08:48 pmI can't remember if anyone has already identified it, but new filings were posted today for for Mission 1381, operations to begin NET November 28th from LC-40.https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80703https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80700We think those are CRS-13. The application for altimeter testing at CCAFS was also granted today. After looking at those grants together, it appears the first stage is authorized to use its altimeter when it's within 10km of the landing site.
Caleb Henry @CHenry_SN SpaceX's Patricia Cooper: 2 demo sats launching in next few months, then constellation deployment in 2019. Can start service w/ ~800 sats.
https://twitter.com/CHenry_SN/status/923205405643329536QuoteCaleb Henry @CHenry_SN SpaceX's Patricia Cooper: 2 demo sats launching in next few months, then constellation deployment in 2019. Can start service w/ ~800 sats.
Quote from: Salo on 10/25/2017 04:56 pmhttps://twitter.com/CHenry_SN/status/923205405643329536QuoteCaleb Henry @CHenry_SN SpaceX's Patricia Cooper: 2 demo sats launching in next few months, then constellation deployment in 2019. Can start service w/ ~800 sats.Twitter is so.... limited.Is that deployment of 800 satellites all in 2019, or 2018 and 2019?How could anyone build 800 satellites in two years? [Rhetorical]Isn't Iridium bragging about their high speed production building 80 or so in two or so years? [Rhetorical]Do we have an estimate of how many launches it will take for 800 satellites? Edit: This is asked in the Manifest threads for the sole purpose of estimating how many launches will have to be inserted into our manifest and where on the timeline.The other questions can probably be better discussed elsewhere.
Just as a general estimate, with 20 satellites of 500kg each per launch, 800 in 24-36 months would require 1-2 launches per month on average. For 24 months, that equates to one launch every 2.6 weeks. For 36 months, every 3.25 weeks. Basically, double 2017's planned cadence without serving any additional paying customers. With the constellation requiring only LEO launches and Block 5 theoretically allowing for 10 reuses without refurb, it seems entirely possible. Pad availability becomes the major limiting factor at that point.
Speculation on internet constellation launch timings, flight rates, hardware production rates, etc. would be better in the satellite constellation threads instead of the manifest thread for now. We don't have any firm news on internet constellation launches yet.
Quote from: gongora on 10/26/2017 03:00 pmSpeculation on internet constellation launch timings, flight rates, hardware production rates, etc. would be better in the satellite constellation threads instead of the manifest thread for now. We don't have any firm news on internet constellation launches yet.Would it not be consistent to add a single line for Starlink launches, with number/start date TBD? Also, they plan two test spacecraft by first quarter 2018, probably on a single launch... haven't heard that they are co-manifested, so likely separate launch depending on when license is issued.
ABS rescinded its last satellite order, ABS-8, after the U.S. Congress let the Export Import Bank’s charter expire, a political force majeure that botched a contract with Boeing. Ex-Im Bank reopened in December 2015, but still lacks a full board, and cannot finance projects over $10 million. ABS has yet to place a new order for ABS-8, but has described the cancellation as a blessing in disguise because of the announcement of ViaSat-3, against which Choi has said the original design for ABS-8 would have been uncompetitive.
Have we known this yet?QuoteABS rescinded its last satellite order, ABS-8, after the U.S. Congress let the Export Import Bank’s charter expire, a political force majeure that botched a contract with Boeing. Ex-Im Bank reopened in December 2015, but still lacks a full board, and cannot finance projects over $10 million. ABS has yet to place a new order for ABS-8, but has described the cancellation as a blessing in disguise because of the announcement of ViaSat-3, against which Choi has said the original design for ABS-8 would have been uncompetitive.http://spacenews.com/tom-choi-steps-down-from-abs-ceo-position/
