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Caught up with the awesome people at @Firefly_Space today! I can’t wait to see their Alpha rocket launch early this year! It’ll be the largest carbon fiber rocket, first tap-off cycle orbital rocket and frankly awesome looking!!! Think they’ll make orbit on their first attempt?

"Think they will make orbit on their first attempt" LV history isn't on their side, very few LVs make orbit on first attempt.



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https://twitter.com/erdayastronaut/status/1346596013679771651

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Caught up with the awesome people at @Firefly_Space today! I can’t wait to see their Alpha rocket launch early this year! It’ll be the largest carbon fiber rocket, first tap-off cycle orbital rocket and frankly awesome looking!!! Think they’ll make orbit on their first attempt?

"Think they will make orbit on their first attempt" LV history isn't on their side, very few LVs make orbit on first attempt.


I think they have a high chance of making orbit on their first go if the team is former SpaceX, Blue, Virgin Orbit. I have always thought the team from Firefly was old SpaceX Falcon 1 guys ready to do what they do best. Maybe so when it was Firefly Aerospace not now when the propulsion from Ukraine. I hope these guys succeed. always felt SpaceX should have continued to launch F1 until F9 could handle it's payloads.

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Lots of people judged SpaceX at the time for going so fast toward Falcon 9 and skipping Falcon 5 and dumping Falcon 1. Hard to see that as a bad move, now, though.

Firefly Alpha does seem a bit like Falcon 1e, with their next rocket being somewhat in the Falcon 5 wheelhouse.
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Lots of people judged SpaceX at the time for going so fast toward Falcon 9 and skipping Falcon 5 and dumping Falcon 1. Hard to see that as a bad move, now, though.

Firefly Alpha does seem a bit like Falcon 1e, with their next rocket being somewhat in the Falcon 5 wheelhouse.

If they meet their payload figures, it would basically be same class as first 5 Falcon 9s that flew. Basically the same size as well.

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Lots of people judged SpaceX at the time for going so fast toward Falcon 9 and skipping Falcon 5 and dumping Falcon 1. Hard to see that as a bad move, now, though.

Firefly Alpha does seem a bit like Falcon 1e, with their next rocket being somewhat in the Falcon 5 wheelhouse.

If they meet their payload figures, it would basically be same class as first 5 Falcon 9s that flew. Basically the same size as well.
On the picture is Beta not Alpha.

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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1352281527925809155

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3-2-1 Liftoff! Our launch team is dialing in their hold-down release operations for our coming big day.  Get excited, because it’s nearly time to let Alpha Fly!

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Neat! We don't get to see inside holddown mechanisms all that often, are toggle-locks for clamp release common?

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https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1352318273195552770

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Firefly CEO Tom Markusic says Alpha's target launch date is mid-February, with everything ready "except for one flight termination system component on the rocket, which is provided by an external vendor, which has not completed qualification and may not be ready by mid-February."

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Caught up with the awesome people at @Firefly_Space today! I can’t wait to see their Alpha rocket launch early this year! It’ll be the largest carbon fiber rocket, first tap-off cycle orbital rocket and frankly awesome looking!!! Think they’ll make orbit on their first attempt?
That centrifugal pump looks really interesting.

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That centrifugal pump looks really interesting.

That's just their show piece that they take to shows and stuff.

Here's a more realistic look at the turbopump https://firefly.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Lightning-Turbopump.jpg

Actually on a second look, it's the turbine exhaust.
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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1352644679418998785

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Firefly is performing final integration and checkouts of the Alpha first stage, second stage and payload section in preparation for our inaugural launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base!
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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1354806798838976513

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Great article from @SpaceNews_Inc on Firefly's future development plans and New Space financing in general, based on yesterday's IPO Edge webcast. Check it out!

https://spacenews.com/firefly-aerospace-seeking-to-raise-350-million/

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Firefly Aerospace seeking to raise $350 million
by Jeff Foust — January 27, 2021

WASHINGTON — Small launch vehicle developer Firefly Aerospace, nearing its first orbital launch attempt, is looking to raise $350 million to scale up production and work on a new, larger vehicle.

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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1355202396364922882

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Ever wonder what’s at the end of a rainbow? We found out today – it’s Firefly’s Vandenberg launch pad!

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https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1356968600934973449

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Firefly Aerospace appoints national security specialist Deborah Lee James and Cardillo Group president Robert Cardillo to its board of directors, joining CEO Tom Markusic on the board.

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Markusic, Lee James, and Cardillo are the only board members now.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/on-eve-of-first-launch-firefly-revamps-board-of-directors-may-go-public/

[Press Release] Firefly Aerospace Announces New Board of Directors and Corporate Expansion Plans

February 03, 2021 09:05 AM Eastern Standard Time
CEDAR PARK, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Firefly Aerospace, Inc., a leading provider of economical and dependable launch vehicles, spacecraft, and in-space services, announced the appointment of Deborah Lee James and Robert Cardillo to its Board of Directors. Firefly’s new three-person board, including Firefly CEO, Dr. Tom Markusic, will be led by Ms. James, serving as Chairman of the Board.

Deborah Lee James has a three-decade track record in national security, including 20 years of U.S. government service, with time on Capitol Hill as a professional staff member in the U.S. House of Representatives and two tours in the Pentagon, first as an Assistant Secretary of Defense and later as the Secretary of the Air Force. As Secretary, Ms. James also was the Principal Defense Space Advisor. She has led large industry teams in support of the military, most notably as President of the Technical and Engineering Sector of SAIC, responsible for $2 billion in Defense contract revenue and 8,700 employees. Ms. James is the author of the leadership book “Aim High: Chart Your Course and Find Success”; and serves on the boards of various organizations including Textron, Unisys, Noblis, the Penfed Foundation and LeanIn.Org.

Robert Cardillo is president of The Cardillo Group, LLC, delivering strategic and operational expertise to create an enhanced awareness of planet Earth to enable improved decision-making. Before forming TCG in May 2019, Mr. Cardillo was the sixth Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency from 2014 through 2019. He led transformation of the Agency’s future value proposition through innovative partnerships with the growing commercial geospatial marketplace. During his 35+ years of public service, Robert served in leadership positions within the organization of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

“We are thrilled to have Debbie and Robert join the Firefly Board of Directors,” said Dr. Markusic. “Their guidance will be critical as Firefly transitions from a rapid product development company to an integrated provider of launch, in-space, and lunar mission services for commercial, civil, and national security space customers. Their experience in the private sector and as leaders of critical U.S. government organizations will enable Firefly to fully realize our corporate objective of becoming the preeminent end-to-end space transportation company in the nation’s small space industrial base.”

Concurrently, with the addition of the new board of directors, Firefly intends to implement an internal restructuring of the company. “These corporate changes will reflect the strategic objectives of Firefly and assure focus and resources are properly allocated to effectively develop our core spacecraft and launch vehicle product lines,’’ added Dr. Markusic. “In particular, we intend to segregate launchers and spacecraft as dedicated business units and greatly expand our business development and government relations team in Washington, D.C.”

He continued, “The number of employees at Firefly has nearly doubled over the last year, and we continue to aggressively recruit top technical talent to develop our next-generation spacecraft and rockets. We will also be conducting a nationwide executive talent search over the coming months to provide strong leadership for the new business units. Space is expected to be the fastest growing industry of the twenty-first century, and Firefly is determined to be perfectly positioned to lead the way in this new emerging space economy.”
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Max Polyakov stepped in to provide about $200 million in funding. Markusic said about 10 percent of those funds remain, and the company is now seeking to raise $350 million.

What's the burn rate at this point been? That's not a lot left for about 250 people. Especially for potential failures in launch (may be holding off launch till new funding is secure?)

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Max Polyakov stepped in to provide about $200 million in funding. Markusic said about 10 percent of those funds remain, and the company is now seeking to raise $350 million.

What's the burn rate at this point been? That's not a lot left for about 250 people. Especially for potential failures in launch (may be holding off launch till new funding is secure?)

Super rough calculation says if they got that $200m at the start of 2018 then they've spent 90% of their funding in 3 years. So they have ~1/3 of a year to go before running out. It's unlikely many customers will have stumped up real money yet so they've just been living off that VC capital.
Of course the burn rate won't have been even, but if we assume the capex and the non-linear burn rate cancel each other out then I reckon they'll be getting a bit nervous unless they're very close to closing another round!

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https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1357438086150553601

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NASA says it has selected @Firefly_Space for a lunar cargo delivery in 2023. Contract is worth approximately $93.3 million to deliver a suite of 10 science investigations and technology demonstrations to the Moon. A big deal!

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https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-firefly-aerospace-for-artemis-commercial-moon-delivery-in-2023

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Feb 4, 2021
RELEASE 21-012

NASA Selects Firefly Aerospace for Artemis Commercial Moon Delivery in 2023

NASA has awarded Firefly Aerospace of Cedar Park, Texas, approximately $93.3 million to deliver a suite of 10 science investigations and technology demonstrations to the Moon in 2023. The delivery, planned for Mare Crisium, a low-lying basin on the Moon’s near side, will investigate a variety of lunar surface conditions and resources. Such investigations will help prepare for human missions to the lunar surface.

The award is part of the agency’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative, in which NASA is securing the service of commercial partners to quickly land science and technology payloads on the lunar surface. The initiative is a key part of NASA’s Artemis program. Firefly Aerospace will be responsible for end-to-end delivery services, including payload integration, launch from Earth, landing on the Moon, and mission operations. This is the sixth award for lunar surface delivery under the CLPS initiative.

“We’re excited another CLPS provider has won its first task order award. With this initiative, we seek to develop ways for new science and technology development utilizing a service-based model,” said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “This allows U.S. vendors to not only demonstrate their ability to safely deliver payloads to our celestial neighbor, but also expand this capability for others who want to take advantage of this cutting edge approach to explore the Moon.”

This is the first delivery awarded to Firefly Aerospace, which will provide the lunar delivery service using its Blue Ghost lander, which the company designed and developed at its Cedar Park facility. This facility also will house the integration of NASA and any non-NASA payloads, and also will serve as the company’s mission operations center for the 2023 delivery.

“The payloads we’re sending as part of this delivery service span across multiple areas, from investigating the lunar soil and testing a sample capture technology, to giving us information about the Moon’s thermal properties and magnetic field,” said Chris Culbert, manager of the CLPS initiative at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

Mare Crisium, where Firefly Aerospace’s Blue Ghost will land, is a more than 300-mile-wide basin where instruments will gather data to provide insight into the Moon’s regolith – loose, fragmented rock and soil – properties, geophysical characteristics, and the interaction of solar wind and Earth’s magnetic field.

The payloads, collectively expected to total 207 pounds (94 kg) in mass, include:

The Regolith Adherence Characterization (RAC), which will determine how lunar regolith sticks to a range of materials exposed to the Moon's environment during landing and lander operations. Components will be derived from the Materials International Space Station Experiment (MISSE) facility currently on the International Space Station.

The Next Generation Lunar Retroreflectors (NGLR), which will serve as a target for lasers on Earth to precisely measure the distance between Earth and the Moon. The retroreflector that will fly on this mission also will provide data that could be used to understand various aspects of the lunar interior and address fundamental physics questions.

The Lunar Environment Heliospheric X-ray Imager (LEXI), which will capture images of the interaction of Earth's magnetosphere with the flow of charged particles from the Sun, called the solar wind.

The Reconfigurable, Radiation Tolerant Computer System (RadPC), which aims to demonstrate a radiation-tolerant computing technology. Due to the Moon's lack of atmosphere and magnetic field, radiation from the Sun will be a challenge for electronics. This investigation also will characterize the radiation effects on the lunar surface.

The Lunar Magnetotelluric Sounder (LMS), which is designed to characterize the structure and composition of the Moon’s mantle by studying electric and magnetic fields. The investigation will make use of a flight-spare magnetometer, a device that measures magnetic fields, originally made for the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN (MAVEN) spacecraft currently orbiting Mars.

The Lunar Instrumentation for Subsurface Thermal Exploration with Rapidity (LISTER), which is designed to measure heat flow from the interior of the Moon. The probe will attempt to drill 7 to 10 feet (2 to 3 meters) into the lunar regolith to investigate the Moon's thermal properties at different depths.

The Lunar PlanetVac (LPV), which is designed to acquire lunar regolith from the surface and transfer it to other instruments that would analyze the material or put it in a container that another spacecraft could return to Earth.

Stereo CAmeras for Lunar Plume Surface Studies (SCALPSS 1.1), which will capture video and still images of the area under the lander from when the engine plume first disturbs the lunar surface through engine shutdown. Long-focal-length cameras will determine the pre-landing surface topography. Photogrammetry will be used to reconstruct the changing surface during landing. Understanding the physics of rocket exhaust on the regolith, and the displacement of dust, gravel, and rocks is critical to understanding how to best avoid kicking up surface materials during the terminal phase of flight/landing on the Moon and other celestial bodies.

The Electrodynamic Dust Shield (EDS), which will generate a non-uniform electric field using varying high voltage on multiple electrodes. This traveling field, in turn, carries away the particles and has potential applications in thermal radiators, spacesuit fabrics, visors, camera lenses, solar panels, and many other technologies.

The Lunar GNSS Receiver Experiment (LuGRE), which is based on GPS. LuGRE will continue to extend the reach of GPS signals and, if successful, be the first to discern GPS signals at lunar distances.

The CLPS initiative is a key part of NASA’s Artemis lunar exploration efforts. The science and technology payloads sent to the Moon’s surface as part of the initiative will help lay the foundation for human missions and a sustainable human presence on the lunar surface.

For more information about CLPS, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/CLPS

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