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Something's up with Firefly Aerospace, or at least with the firefly.com domain. This morning the website had the usual stuff. Tonight the domain is for sale. Their Twitter account still has it as the link.

Not sure what is going on. The expiry date on the domain is 2030-05-29 with the domain registry information last updated on 2021-08-31. Firefly does have another domain https://fireflyspace.com/ which is working.

Apparently they started redirecting https://firefly.com/ to https://fireflyspace.com/ back in January. (I'm surprised I didn't notice.)

They should have changed the link in their Twitter bio.

Maybe it has to do with the company renaming itself from Firefly Aerospace Incorporated (FAI) to Firefly Space Incorporated (FSI) in filings as they are now going to focus solely on space.

If it had been fireflyaerospace.com, I could see changing it to fireflyspace.com for that reason, but firefly.com doesn't contain "aerospace" in the domain name.

Maybe they got tired of people thinking it was a website for the TV show? 🤪

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Maybe they got tired of people thinking it was a website for the TV show? 🤪
Clearly their new fundraising strategy is hoping that some fanatical Browncoat will pay a pretty penny for that domain name.

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Something's up with Firefly Aerospace, or at least with the firefly.com domain. This morning the website had the usual stuff. Tonight the domain is for sale. Their Twitter account still has it as the link.

Not sure what is going on. The expiry date on the domain is 2030-05-29 with the domain registry information last updated on 2021-08-31. Firefly does have another domain https://fireflyspace.com/ which is working.

Apparently they started redirecting https://firefly.com/ to https://fireflyspace.com/ back in January. (I'm surprised I didn't notice.)

They should have changed the link in their Twitter bio.

Maybe it has to do with the company renaming itself from Firefly Aerospace Incorporated (FAI) to Firefly Space Incorporated (FSI) in filings as they are now going to focus solely on space.

If it had been fireflyaerospace.com, I could see changing it to fireflyspace.com for that reason, but firefly.com doesn't contain "aerospace" in the domain name.

Maybe they got tired of people thinking it was a website for the TV show?
The actual name of the company was changed from the original company website domain https://www.fireflyspace.com to https://fireflyaerospace.com on 2017-03-23, then https://www.firefly.com in 2019 when it pursued SPAC options and USG having problems with certain people then back to the original domain https://www.fireflyspace.com in January 2023. Each time has during or before  a company reorganisation period became public information. Note that Firefly Space was the company that got sacked by a court for aerospike engine IP and other woes.
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Maybe they got tired of people thinking it was a website for the TV show? 🤪
Clearly their new fundraising strategy is hoping that some fanatical Browncoat will pay a pretty penny for that domain name.
You do realize that the Firefly franchise is now with the House of the Mouse. Who might revived it in some manner in the future as long as some of the aging Serenity crew cast members are still active. The Browncoat Fandom have wither away with time.

P.S.  Gwynne Shotwell is a Firefly fan.  8)


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The actual name of the company was changed from the original company website domain https://www.fireflyspace.com to https://fireflyaerospace.com on 2017-03-23, then https://www.firefly.com in 2019 when it pursued SPAC options and USG having problems with certain people then back to the original domain https://www.fireflyspace.com in January 2023. Each time has during or before  a company reorganisation period became public information. Note that Firefly Space was the company that got sacked by a court for aerospike engine IP and other woes.
Do you have a source (e.g., a legal filing) for them changing their name back to Firefly Space? Or are you saying that domain name changes have always presaged legal name changes in the past, so you're predicting that another name change is coming in the near future?

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The actual name of the company was changed from the original company website domain https://www.fireflyspace.com to https://fireflyaerospace.com on 2017-03-23, then https://www.firefly.com in 2019 when it pursued SPAC options and USG having problems with certain people then back to the original domain https://www.fireflyspace.com in January 2023. Each time has during or before  a company reorganisation period became public information. Note that Firefly Space was the company that got sacked by a court for aerospike engine IP and other woes.
Do you have a source (e.g., a legal filing) for them changing their name back to Firefly Space? Or are you saying that domain name changes have always presaged legal name changes in the past, so you're predicting that another name change is coming in the near future?
The middle option. It has happened every time to date so far. I'm not predicting a name change rather I'm stating the observations to present.

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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1653863708727050242

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Our first ever composite common dome structure is on the test stand as we undergo development testing for our Medium Launch Vehicle. This configuration allows us to cut out the entire intertank, significantly reducing vehicle weight with fewer parts.

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Nice to see some HW even if it is test article.

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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1656335856536305666

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Another big MLV win! We built our first 2 carbon fiber pressure tanks and successfully passed qualification-level testing ahead of our structure CDR. Our ability to quickly innovate, test, and refine designs allows us to meet rapid schedules while providing robust reliability.

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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1661035161507471361

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There aren't many things more beautiful than a rocket hot fire test... until you see a field of Texas wildflowers next to our roaring Reaver engine.

I don't think anyone posted this article from Firefly's website. Came out back in March.
https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-completes-risk-reduction-testing-for-critical-miranda-engine-components/
[March 22]

Highlights:
- They have been using Reaver hotfires to buy-down risk for Miranda components. Specifically "Miranda’s main fuel valve and the throttle valve hot seal design"
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They seem to suggest several times that Lightning, Reaver, and Miranda are all essentially the same engine design, just at different scales.
- First Miranda hotfire this summer, with engine qualification beginning this fall.

I've got to say, if they can actually get a hotfire in this summer, I might begin to believe that they could have Antares 330 flying before the end of 2024. Might. Fingers crossed that this time next year, we're taking bets on whether MLV or New Glenn will fly first.
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I don't think anyone posted this article from Firefly's website. Came out back in March.
https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-completes-risk-reduction-testing-for-critical-miranda-engine-components/

Highlights:
- They have been using Reaver hotfires to buy-down risk for Miranda components. Specifically "Miranda’s main fuel valve and the throttle valve hot seal design"
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They seem to suggest several times that Lightning, Reaver, and Miranda are all essentially the same engine design, just at different scales.
- First Miranda hotfire this summer, with engine qualification beginning this fall.

I've got to say, if they can actually get a hotfire in this summer, I might begin to believe that they could have Antares 330 flying before the end of 2024. Might. Fingers crossed that this time next year, we're taking bets on whether MLV or New Glenn will fly first.
Engine development is definitely getting quicker. Relativity are looking to test fire their Terran R engine in 2023 which is of similar size. Same goes for RL. These large engines use to take 5yrs or more. SpaceX seems to totally redesign Raptor every year.
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twitter.com/breadfrom/status/1666209467245944866

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Soooo…according to filings it looks like @Firefly_Space is planning two unannounced missions— one called ‘FANTM Ride’ and another called ‘Tantrum.’ Firefly declined to comment. 👀

https://twitter.com/breadfrom/status/1666210166197346331

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I learned this after publishing a story about how the company’s NASA launch was pushed to August — busy summer for Firefly

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Soooo…according to filings it looks like @Firefly_Space is planning two unannounced missions— one called ‘FANTM Ride’ and another called ‘Tantrum.’ Firefly declined to comment. 👀 [Jun 6]
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I learned this after publishing a story about how the company’s NASA launch was pushed to August — busy summer for Firefly. [Jun 6]

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1125-EX-ST-2023  Tantrum mission NET Oct
1127-EX-ST-2023  FANTM Ride mission NET Nov
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https://twitter.com/firefly_space/status/1666838186700558336

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Big news today! Firefly is acquiring Spaceflight Inc. to further grow our on-orbit capabilities and service the entire lifecycle of our customers’ payloads. Learn more about the acquisition here:

https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-acquires-spaceflight-to-bolster-on-orbit-services/

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June 8, 2023
Firefly Aerospace Announces Strategic Acquisition of Spaceflight Inc. to Bolster On-Orbit Services

CEDAR PARK, Texas, June 8, 2023 – Firefly Aerospace (“Firefly” or the “Company”) today announced the acquisition of Spaceflight Inc. to strengthen Firefly’s on-orbit solutions and service the entire lifecycle of customers’ satellites and spacecraft. The acquisition further supports Firefly’s robust portfolio of low-cost space transportation services, including responsive launch and in-space mobility, on-orbit hosting and servicing, and lunar delivery operations. Terms of the transaction were not disclosed.

“This acquisition is the result of Firefly’s business plan to strengthen the company though organic growth in addition to accelerating its capabilities with strategic acquisitions,” said Bill Weber, CEO of Firefly Aerospace. “The combination of Spaceflight’s on-orbit experience with Firefly’s launch vehicles, Blue Ghost landers, and Space Utility Vehicles is an overnight game changer for our customers and investors.”

Spaceflight’s flight-proven orbital vehicles provide payload deliveries, hosting, and transfer services. With extensive expertise in mission management and selling and filling manifests, the company has also supported the deployment of more than 460 payloads into space. Spaceflight operates manufacturing and payload processing facilities in Bellevue, Washington, including state-of-the-art clean rooms, environmental testing capabilities, and large high bays for concurrent spacecraft production.

“With a high market demand for our on-orbit services and rapid response missions, this acquisition uniquely positions Firefly to respond immediately to our customers’ needs,” said Weber. “We look forward to welcoming this team into our incredible Firefly family!”

The addition of Spaceflight brings added capabilities that complement Firefly’s vertically integrated product line, including launch, lunar, and in-space vehicles. Firefly’s Alpha launch vehicle is manifested through 2023 with the U.S. Space Force, NASA, and other commercial customers, as the Company concurrently builds a new medium launch vehicle in collaboration with Northrop Grumman. Firefly’s Blue Ghost lunar lander is scheduled to complete the first of two missions to the Moon next year with NASA as the anchor customer, and Firefly’s Space Utility Vehicle has a mission scheduled early next year to demonstrate the vehicle’s on-orbit capabilities.

Firefly is a portfolio company of AE Industrial Partners (“AEI”), a U.S.-based private equity firm specializing in aerospace, defense and government services, space, power and utility services, and specialty industrial markets.

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SpaceX refused to work with Spaceflight last year which didn't leave lot rides left for Spaceflight to offer customers. Suspect Firefly got a good deal on this A&M. Rideshare is likely to be a big chunk of Alpha's business so it was good move by Firefly.

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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1666855114936549376

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One note on this from Firefly: "Firefly will honor Spaceflight's current contracts but will not be aggregating payloads on other launch vehicles moving forward."

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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1667292366095413249

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Firefly with a new page and renders showing their MLV (medium launch vehicle).

"MLV will utilize the Firefly-manufactured Antares 330 first stage that’s powered by seven Firefly Miranda engines and a new liquid upper stage incorporating one Miranda derived vacuum engine. The vehicle will utilize technologies from Firefly’s flight-proven Alpha vehicle, such as all carbon composite structures and tap-off cycle engines, and will evolve into a reusable vehicle."

The render makes it look like it's launching from 39B, like what was planned with OmegA.

"Launching from Virginia’s Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport (MARS) on Wallops Island, MLV is also designed to be compatible with other launch ranges, including Cape Canaveral Space Force Station (CCSFS), Florida, and Vandenberg Space Force Base (VSFB), California."

https://fireflyspace.com/mlv/
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https://fireflyspace.com/mlv/

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New Medium Launch Vehicle Taking Flight in 2025

Our medium launch vehicle (MLV) will fill a void in the medium-lift market by providing a 100% US-made solution that’s more affordable and responsive to national security, civil, and commercial space needs. With the first flight scheduled for 2025, MLV will be capable of launching 16,000 kg to lower Earth orbit with a 5-meter class payload fairing that can be customized based on customer needs. The vehicle will enable direct payload deliveries to customers’ preferred orbits at a comparable cost per kilogram to existing reusable rockets.

OVERVIEW

ARCHITECTURE

2 stages
Optional 3rd stage
OVERALL LENGTH

55.7 m
183.7 ft

PAYLOAD FAIRING

5-meter class

PROPULSION

PROPELLANT

LOX / RP–1

PROPELLANT FEED

Turbopump

COMBUSTION

Tap-off cycle

STAGE 1

ENGINE

7x Miranda
THRUST (VAC)

7,161 kN
1,609,857 lbf
ISP (VAC)

305 sec

STAGE 2

ENGINE

1x Miranda Vacuum
THRUST (VAC)

890 kN
200,000 lbf
ISP (VAC)

328 sec

 

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