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#20
by
input~2
on 31 May, 2019 14:03
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We also have a NOTAM for June 4 12-14 UTC which might rather be for Progress MS-10 reentry
B3212/19 - TEMPO DANGER AREA NZD027 (EAST AUCKLAND OCEANIC FIR) IS PRESCRIBED AS FLW: ALL THAT AIRSPACE BOUNDED BY A LINE JOINING 44 23 00 S 131 00 00 W 54 38 00 S 131 00 00 W 41 07 00 S 172 24 00 W 38 18 00 S 171 40 00 W 29 27 00 S 166 14 00 W 44 23 00 S 131 00 00 W ACTIVITY: SPACE DEBRIS RETURN USER AGENCY: FOREIGN SPACE AGENCY PRESCRIBED PURSUANT TO CIVIL AVIATION RULE PART 71 UNDER A DELEGATED AUTHORITY ISSUED BY THE DIRECTOR OF CIVIL AVIATION. SFC - FL999, 04 JUN 12:00 2019 UNTIL 04 JUN 14:00 2019. CREATED: 29 MAY 20:28 2019
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#21
by
tehwkd
on 31 May, 2019 14:18
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Confirmed to be for the MS-10 deorbit as the similar one from jan26 was for MS-09
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#22
by
input~2
on 01 Jun, 2019 20:03
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T0 around 04:00 UTC
A2585/19 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N345358E1211125 WITH RADIUS OF 20KM. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 JUN 03:56 2019 UNTIL 05 JUN 06:06 2019. CREATED: 01 JUN 13:36 2019
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#23
by
tehwkd
on 01 Jun, 2019 22:26
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Map view with the r=20km marked
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#24
by
tehwkd
on 02 Jun, 2019 06:42
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Apologies for the stupid question, but are they launching from sea to still drop debris on land?
If you look at the JSLC launches the drop zones were always slightly to the west of the launch site, does the sea location really make that significant of a difference that the debris avoid Jiangsu and land safely in the sea?
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#25
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 02 Jun, 2019 06:59
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Apologies for the stupid question, but are they launching from sea to still drop debris on land?
If you look at the JSLC launches the drop zones were always slightly to the west of the launch site, does the sea location really make that significant of a difference that the debris avoid Jiangsu and land safely in the sea?
There are reports that the launch is going to a 45 degrees inclination orbit, so the launch direction would be to the south-east.
Are there drop zones related notices around Japan?
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#26
by
tehwkd
on 02 Jun, 2019 07:09
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Apologies for the stupid question, but are they launching from sea to still drop debris on land?
If you look at the JSLC launches the drop zones were always slightly to the west of the launch site, does the sea location really make that significant of a difference that the debris avoid Jiangsu and land safely in the sea?
There are reports that the launch is going to a 45 degrees inclination orbit, so the launch direction would be to the south-east.
Are there drop zones related notices around Japan?
Been looking for both notams and notmars but so far only the zsha notam is related to the launch
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#27
by
PM3
on 02 Jun, 2019 10:21
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"WEI" is the name of a sponsor, a Chinese automobile brand. (
source)
Not sure if this also designates a type of CZ-11 rocket, as the thread title suggests.
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#28
by
GELORD
on 02 Jun, 2019 13:18
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"WEI" is the name of a sponsor, a Chinese automobile brand. (source)
Not sure if this also designates a type of CZ-11 rocket, as the thread title suggests.
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#29
by
input~2
on 02 Jun, 2019 14:18
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#30
by
tehwkd
on 03 Jun, 2019 13:23
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notam under rjjj is same area as the notmar but T-0 NET 0417 UTC
J2462/19 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON JUN 5, 2019 DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS: ON JUN 5,2019 FROM 04:17-06:25 UTC AREA: 251110N1351329E 254441N1354343E 244520N1370059E 241227N1363008E FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE. VERTICAL ALTITUDE:SFC-UNL RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL, 05 JUN 04:17 2019 UNTIL 05 JUN 06:25 2019. CREATED: 03 JUN 12:36 2019
InForce
P 031129Z JUN 19
HYDROPAC 1812/19(97).
PHILLIPINE SEA.
DNC 12.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
050400Z TO 050800Z JUN IN AREA BOUND BY
25-11-10N 135-13-29E, 25-44-41N 135-43-43E,
24-45-20N 137-00-59E, 24-12-27N 136-30-08E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050900Z JUN 19.//
GENERAL.//
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#31
by
Satori
on 03 Jun, 2019 14:42
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"WEI" is the name of a sponsor, a Chinese automobile brand. (source)
Not sure if this also designates a type of CZ-11 rocket, as the thread title suggests.
No,it does not. Its just the sponsor of the launch.
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#32
by
Satori
on 03 Jun, 2019 15:15
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Spaceflightfans is referring that apart from the two Jilin Gaofen sats, CAS-6 and other eight small sats will be on board this launch.
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#33
by
input~2
on 03 Jun, 2019 17:11
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notam under rjjj is same area as the notmar but T-0 NET 0417 UTC
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Flightpath azimuth appears to be 124°
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#34
by
input~2
on 03 Jun, 2019 20:44
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According to AIS data processed by
marinetraffic.com at least 2 ships are standing by around the designated launch area in the Yellow Sea
- a container ship with Marshall Islands flag
Mattina- a Chinese salvage/rescue vessel
Bei Hai Jiu 118
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#35
by
russianhalo117
on 03 Jun, 2019 23:19
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According to AIS data processed by marinetraffic.com at least 2 ships are standing by around the designated launch area in the Yellow Sea
- a container ship with Marshall Islands flag Mattina
- a Chinese salvage/rescue vessel Bei Hai Jiu 118
MATTINA is South Korean built and not the class mentioned above however 3 ships are anchored at Chinese Coast Guard navigation aid with Chinese Coast Guard arriving.
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#36
by
tehwkd
on 04 Jun, 2019 02:58
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CCOCOOOO 37101 - no data available, bunch of random movements and randomly went silent hours ago near the launch center point next to BEI HAI JIU 101, ZHONGGUOHAIJING1123 , BEI HAI JIU 118 military vehicles
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#37
by
tehwkd
on 04 Jun, 2019 03:49
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#38
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 04 Jun, 2019 04:49
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Clearest view of the "Chinese rocket barge" so far:
https://twitter.com/LaunchStuff/status/1135768371646160896So a barge eh? I'm not surprised that the Chinese have changed their plans (if interpreted correctly) and it makes much more sense than modifying a 10000 tonne container ship. I guess OCISLY & JRTI might have provided some ideas to them.
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#39
by
Zed_Noir
on 04 Jun, 2019 05:50
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So a barge eh? I'm not surprised that the Chinese have changed their plans (if interpreted correctly) and it makes much more sense than modifying a 10000 tonne container ship. I guess OCISLY & JRTI might have provided some ideas to them.
They can afford to written off an old barge with minor modifications. A 10000 tonne container ship not so much if there is an unscheduled RUD event.
Along with how you remotely control said ship without a crew so that the the ship is stabilized enough to launch an orbital rocket. Quite sure it is doable, just how much it will cost. With the barge, in theory you could order up the equivalent marine propulsion units that SpaceX uses and clone something similar to the SpaceX ASDS barges.
I always wonder why they choose such a small ship originally for orbital rocket launch. Since it would been easier to maintain station and provide stability with a larger ship. Plus you can pour concrete over the deck to handle the erosion issue from the rocket exhaust.
