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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #180 on: 08/31/2021 06:24 am »
Interesting...

From the discussions here https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=53949.0 and judging from Southern Launch's experience with the ASA, it's highly unlikely Gilmour will be able to launch anything (commercial or otherwise) from Abbot Point in that time frame - but there's always Whalers Way, I suppose  :)
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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #181 on: 09/02/2021 09:46 am »
Cross-post:
Gilmour signs first European customer

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Gilmour Space Technologies has added another customer to its growing list of clients after confirming it has signed an agreement with German rideshare services provider Exolaunch. The agreement will see the Queensland-based rocket company provide a number of services to Exolaunch to support their cutting-edge satellite deployment, including tailored launch and precise deployment using the Eris hybrid launch vehicle.

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Now, adding Gilmour’s launch services to their portfolio will give the European company access to low-inclination missions and unique orbits from a southern hemisphere location, once their launch services commence in 2022.

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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #182 on: 10/13/2021 04:08 am »
New Farm Cinemas will be showing a movie about Gilmour on 24 October!

https://fivestarcinemas.com.au/new-farm/movie/to-the-stars

"To the Stars (95 mins | Rated TBC | Documentary . Sun 24th Oct 2pm.)
Would you risk everything for a dream?
Brothers Adam and James Gilmour are driven men who dream of designing, building and launching a new breed of space rocket from Australia. But first they must find a skilled, experienced workforce, navigate an initially hostile government with overregulated national policies and put a self-made fortune on the line. If they succeed they will join the likes of SpaceX and Rocket Lab, if they fail they and their VC investors lose 10's of millions of dollars. Archival footage of Australia’s early space successes and interviews with VC backers and education show a desire for future space capability adding fuel to the passion, perseverance and dogged determination of the Brothers and their team of young engineers."
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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #183 on: 10/14/2021 08:42 pm »

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« Reply #184 on: 10/15/2021 12:25 am »
2019: https://video.wixstatic.com/video/9296f8_300e0ab9732e43f2bd97e38280f19b39/720p/mp4/file.mp4

2021: "first orbital launch 2022"  ::)

Exactly.  The only location on the Australian mainland that is currently approved for orbital launch is Southern Launch's temporary facility at Whaler's Way in South Australia and it's seems TiSpace have that all to themselves until the end of this year at least.  Next year?  Well, Gilmour have to build and successfully test their rocket first.
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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #185 on: 10/21/2021 04:07 am »
I continue to be amazed that they keep talking about orbit when they've not successfully launched a single rocket with their in house hybrid engine.  ::)

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« Reply #186 on: 01/11/2022 07:12 am »
New 75 second hybrid engine test, 110 kN:

Very much looks like nozzle failure starts from ~37s in the video, with a large chunk blowing off at ~44s. Seems like the nozzle wasn't cooled enough?

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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #187 on: 01/11/2022 07:25 am »
New 75 second hybrid engine test, 110 kN:

Very much looks like nozzle failure starts from ~37s in the video, with a large chunk blowing off at ~44s. Seems like the nozzle wasn't cooled enough?
Here's a comment they made about that on twitter :)
https://twitter.com/GilmourSpace/status/1480755730290413568?s

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« Reply #188 on: 01/12/2022 11:45 pm »
Anyone know if this is a flight capable motor? It seems different from the 'pressure pipe' motor casing they used last year for their test campaign.


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« Reply #189 on: 03/19/2022 03:39 am »
Upper stage has changed from hybrid to LOX/kero.

"Surprise! We wanted to share this successful 20-second test of our #AustralianMade regeneratively cooled 3D-printed LOx/Kero #liquidrocketengine, which will power the 3rd stage of our #Eris rocket to orbit later this year.

#GilmourSpace may be known for our #hybridrocket engines, but we also developed this #liquidrocket engine to give our third stage more power and efficiency to deliver more mass to orbit for our customers.

That’s #sovereigncapability in not one but two rocket propulsion systems (just saying)… And for the 🚀 nerds out there, we achieved thermal state equilibrium. Next step: final qualification!"

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« Reply #190 on: 03/20/2022 10:55 pm »
Maybe this will be part of Adam's talk at the Australian Space Summit on Thursday?

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/australian-space-summit/speakers
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« Reply #191 on: 03/28/2022 10:42 pm »
Well, Gilmour didn't win anything at this year's Australian Space Awards (which was a surprise)... but having just received another serious injection of $$$, they're hiring!
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/australian-space-awards/winners/2022-winners-and-finalists
 
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Why? Because we live in a world 🌏 that would benefit greatly from #newspace technologies - from early fire detection, remote communications and smart agritech solutions to better disaster management, climate change monitoring, and much more.

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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #192 on: 03/28/2022 10:46 pm »
Well, Gilmour didn't win anything at this year's Australian Space Awards (which was a surprise)... but they're hiring!
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/australian-space-awards/winners/2022-winners-and-finalists

Actually, isn't that their Head of Propulsion as the winner in the Innovator of the Year - Individual category? And their employees were also nominated in the Engineer of the Year, Graduate of the Year, and Rising Star of the Year categories.

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« Reply #193 on: 03/28/2022 10:54 pm »
Well, Gilmour didn't win anything at this year's Australian Space Awards (which was a surprise)... but they're hiring!
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/australian-space-awards/winners/2022-winners-and-finalists

Actually, isn't that their Head of Propulsion as the winner in the Innovator of the Year - Individual category? And their employees were also nominated in the Engineer of the Year, Graduate of the Year, and Rising Star of the Year categories.

True, Mathew won on his own account - but the awards the company has collected in the last few years (including the all-important "Launch Business of the Year" category) went to others*.  Nominations mean nothing in a game of winner-takes-all.. and as a finalist myself for 3 years in a row, I should know.


* =  Having successfully launched the first commercial rocket payloads from Australian soil in a very long time from their Koonibba Test Range, Southern Launch were seriously peeved not to win this one!  Oh well, there's always next year!
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« Reply #194 on: 03/31/2022 05:13 am »
True, Mathew won on his own account - but the awards the company has collected in the last few years (including the all-important "Launch Business of the Year" category) went to others*.  Nominations mean nothing in a game of winner-takes-all.. and as a finalist myself for 3 years in a row, I should know.

* =  Having successfully launched the first commercial rocket payloads from Australian soil in a very long time from their Koonibba Test Range, Southern Launch were seriously peeved not to win this one!  Oh well, there's always next year!

Did they put any wins on the board (as a company) in the award period to warrant winning? I'm not aware of any (especially launches, which I presume would be a prerequisite to win "Launch Business of the Year"), but would be happy to be proven wrong.

And as for Southern Launch, maybe the fact that they didn't win is a nod to the possibility that that campaign wasn't entirely successful?

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Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #195 on: 03/31/2022 05:21 am »
And speaking of Gilmour, there was a thread on them on aRocket in January when they published their last hybrid motor test video on YouTube. I'm not ITB and orbit if way too hard to even begin to consider as an amateur, but Ben Brockert had some interesting comments regarding Gilmour, which can be found below.

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It doesn't have the nozzle you'd want even for a first stage and it still loses pieces as it burns. Long burning ablative nozzles are hard, there are good reasons that the vast majority of expendable liquids don't use them. It's something VG had to put a lot of time and money into. No reason you couldn't put a regen nozzle on a peroxide hybrid, but it is another thing to do before they're ready to fly.

I would wager cash that they aren't "launching small satellites into low earth orbits from 2022."

I can't find Ed L's blog post on the topic, but good propellant depletion only becomes more important as the number of stages increases. They're baselining a three stage rocket; a few percent difference in utilization can mean a hundred percent difference in payload. Getting perfect and repeatable depletion is much harder than in a solid and seems likely to be harder than in a liquid where you can measure propellant levels directly.

Maybe the switch of the 3rd stage to a biprop is an attempt to mitigate depletion concerns?

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« Reply #196 on: 03/31/2022 10:11 pm »
And as for Southern Launch, maybe the fact that they didn't win is a nod to the possibility that that campaign wasn't entirely successful?

Possibly.. but given that all Southern Launch are doing is providing the facility, range safety and obtaining the paperwork for someone else - success or failure of the rocket itself is kinda irrelevant, don't you think?

Maybe the switch of the 3rd stage to a biprop is an attempt to mitigate depletion concerns?

The 3rd stage is also regen-cooled.  Multi-stage rockets (especially bi-prop multi-stage rockets) are extremely complex beasties and the engine is only a tiny part of the package.  I'd be surprised if they successfully launch it at all.. but, hey, if it keeps people gainfully employed then that can only be a good thing.  :)
 
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« Reply #197 on: 04/01/2022 01:32 am »
Possibly.. but given that all Southern Launch are doing is providing the facility, range safety and obtaining the paperwork for someone else - success or failure of the rocket itself is kinda irrelevant, don't you think?

Depends I guess. Black Sky Aerospace has done all of the above, plus manufactured propellant and vehicles in house, and launched more (and probably more successfully) than Southern Launch clients have. Given that I find it a little curious Southern Launch were peeved that they didn't receive the award given Black Sky's accomplishments over the year.

I'd be surprised if they successfully launch it at all.. but, hey, if it keeps people gainfully employed then that can only be a good thing.  :)

IDK, I kinda feel like if they're going to sponge up heaps of VC funding and yet not successfully launch anything that could be a net negative for the domestic industry in the medium term.

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« Reply #198 on: 05/02/2022 04:07 am »
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Gilmour Space Technologies will give high school students in South-East Queensland the opportunity to help build a CubeSat that will blast off on its Eris rocket next year.

The 56 pupils from years 9-11 will work alongside experts from Griffith University on the ‘Platypus’ mission that will use AI to help map natural disaster weather events.

It comes as Gilmour is preparing to launch the first Australian-built rocket, Eris, into sub-orbital space by the end of 2022 from the Bowen spaceport in Northern Queensland.

This new CubeSat, though, will be designed, programmed and built by students throughout the year during on-site experience days, and at their schools.

Its aim is to help natural disaster management preparations by conclusively mapping weather trajectories to illustrate how effects on climate could be monitored

It will house a camera and temperature sensors to record cloud cover using artificial intelligence to process the image immediately.

“Not only will the lucky students engage with STEM professionals and learn about exciting potential careers, they will also be embarking on useful and cutting-edge work that will be valuable for future research and government decision-making,” Professor Possingham said.

The Platypus Mission patch itself was designed by Arita Bounnhong, a Mabel Park State High School Year 12 who wanted to include different coloured stars to symbolise the inclusivity and diversity of the people involved in project, and patterns that represented Earth from our perspective in comparison with the perspective of Earth from space.

"The Platypus mission offers a rare opportunity for students to apply their STEM knowledge and gain hands-on experience in building and operating real tech in space,” said Gilmour Space CEO, Adam Gilmour. "It’s a great way for us to share our passion with the next generation.”
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/satellites/5421-gilmour-hands-high-school-students-chance-to-build-cubesat
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« Reply #199 on: 05/05/2022 07:01 am »

It comes as Gilmour is preparing to launch the first Australian-built rocket, Eris, into sub-orbital space by the end of 2022 from the Bowen spaceport in Northern Queensland.


THE first Australian-built rocket...  :o

Edit: also, "sub-orbital". which makes the first Australian-built rocket claim even more dubious, but hopefully they've dropped their "orbit by 2022" tagline.
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