Author Topic: Gilmour Space Technologies  (Read 139426 times)

Offline john smith 19

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10444
  • Everyplaceelse
  • Liked: 2492
  • Likes Given: 13762
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #160 on: 07/17/2020 05:25 am »
I've often thought LV designers don't make nearly enough use of just coasting to gain altitude before they start the next stage.  They seem eager to just get the next one lit.  :(

This is because they are trying to limit the number of engines (and thus cost) in the upper stages, so the acceleration is low. There is also a point where adding additional engines decreases performance due to the extra mass not making up for the reduction in gravity losses. Eris must have high acceleration in the first and second stage, similar to solid ICBM type missiles which are then used as launch vehicles.
Interesting.  Fors reason I'm thinking of the Black Arrow LV. People often look at it as the first two stages doing most of the work but in fact the Waxwing solid seems to have contributed 1000s of m/s of delta V. The first stage was basically pushing the vehicle out over the ocean.
« Last Edit: 07/18/2020 10:12 pm by john smith 19 »
MCT ITS BFR SS. The worlds first Methane fueled FFSC engined CFRP SS structure A380 sized aerospaceplane tail sitter capable of Earth & Mars atmospheric flight.First flight to Mars by end of 2022 2027?. T&C apply. Trust nothing. Run your own #s "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" R. Simberg."Competitve" means cheaper ¬cheap SCramjet proposed 1956. First +ve thrust 2004. US R&D spend to date > $10Bn. #deployed designs. Zero.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39463
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 33124
  • Likes Given: 8901
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #161 on: 09/10/2020 05:37 am »
Good news for Gilmour. They got their first Australian customer! I hope Space Machines know that their payload only has a 50% chance of making it into orbit.

https://www.gspacetech.com/post/gilmour-space-to-launch-space-machines-company-on-first-eris-rocket

"Gilmour Space to launch Space Machines Company on first Eris rocket.

QUEENSLAND,  9 Sept 2020 — Homegrown rocket company, Gilmour Space Technologies, has secured the first Australian customer for its maiden Eris rocket launch in 2022. Space Machines Company has contracted to launch a 35-kilogram (kg) spacecraft to orbit, the largest payload announced to date by an Australian space company.
...
“We’ve closed two commercial launch contracts in the last few months, and are targeting 12 rockets a year by 2025," he added. "It's clear to us that the Australian space industry is ready for launch.”
« Last Edit: 09/10/2020 05:38 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #162 on: 09/10/2020 07:36 am »
Good news for Gilmour. They got their first Australian customer! I hope Space Machines know that their payload only has a 50% chance of making it into orbit.

https://www.gspacetech.com/post/gilmour-space-to-launch-space-machines-company-on-first-eris-rocket

Well, since "More details about Space Machines Company and its in-space transportation services will be announced in the coming months", I hope Gilmour realise their customer has less than a 50% chance of developing a flight-ready payload.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #163 on: 11/26/2020 04:03 am »
After a long COVID silence, it's great to see Adam still doing what he's good at:

Northrop Grumman Australia signs MOU with Gilmour Space to develop space capabilities
Quote
Northrop Grumman has announced the signing of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Queensland-based rocket company Gilmour Space Technologies to support the development of Australian sovereign space capabilities.

As an initial task under the MOU, Northrop Grumman will join Gilmour Space as an industry partner on a previously announced Cooperative Research Centre Project (CRC-P) to develop composite rocket tanks for low cost space transport.
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/operations/4643-northrop-grumman-australia-signs-mou-with-gilmour-space-to-develop-space-capabilities

I can't help but notice that he's the only one smiling.  :)
« Last Edit: 11/26/2020 04:06 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39463
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 33124
  • Likes Given: 8901
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #164 on: 12/03/2020 05:00 am »
Momentus and Gilmour have signed a launch contract!

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4651-gilmour-space-announces-launch-partnership-with-momentus

"Gilmour Space has the option to book up to three Vigoride charter missions for orbital transfer services from Momentus over the 2023-25 period, while Momentus will purchase one dedicated Eris launch service from an Australian launch site."
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #165 on: 12/03/2020 10:52 pm »
Momentus and Gilmour have signed a launch contract!

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4651-gilmour-space-announces-launch-partnership-with-momentus

"Gilmour Space has the option to book up to three Vigoride charter missions for orbital transfer services from Momentus over the 2023-25 period, while Momentus will purchase one dedicated Eris launch service from an Australian launch site."

“With two rockets sold and a number of launches being negotiated now with other customers, I see this as further evidence that we can have a commercial space launch business in Australia,” Gilmour added.

They can sell all they want, but the key issue here is that, thanks to continued Government inaction and indecision hidden behind positive spin, neither Gilmour nor anyone else currently have the means to provide orbital launch services from Australia.  ISTM it's kinda like establishing an Airline, hiring the people, and even purchasing the aircraft, but not being allowed to build a runway long enough to take off from.  Most folks would think you were cuckoo!!!

"Gilmour Space CEO Adam Gilmour, who is looking to raise a next round of venture capital funding early next year..."

'Nuff said.
« Last Edit: 12/03/2020 11:08 pm by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #166 on: 01/21/2021 12:23 am »
Quote
New year, new record for Australia’s Gilmour Space

Queensland-based rocket developer Gilmour Space Technologies has welcomed the new year with a successful hot-fire of the world’s largest single-port hybrid rocket engine.

In a milestone achievement for the Australian rocket business ahead of the first commercial payload launch for Australian companies Space Machines Company and Fireball International, the successful test-firing of the 91-kilonewton rocket engine.

Adam Gilmour, CEO and co-founder of Gilmour Space, a Queensland-based company that is developing a three-stage rocket capable of launching small satellites into low-Earth orbits, explained the importance of the successful test firing: “We achieved a record 91 kilonewtons (or 9 tonnes-force) of thrust in this initial verification test of our main engine.

“This is the engine that will be powering the first and second stages of our Eris orbital vehicle as it launches to space. I'm happy to report that all systems performed very well during this 10-second test. Our team will be going through the results and conducting longer duration and higher thrust tests in the weeks ahead.”
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/manufacturing/4718-new-year-new-record-for-australia-s-gilmour-space
« Last Edit: 01/21/2021 12:24 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39463
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 33124
  • Likes Given: 8901
« Last Edit: 01/21/2021 01:36 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #168 on: 02/23/2021 01:16 am »
From LinkedIn:
Quote
Today we welcomed Australian Space Agency head, Enrico Palermo, to our rocket factory in Gold Coast, QLD.

Enrico, previously COO of Virgin Galactic (another hybrid rocket company that’s now worth US$12B), knows all about the challenges of pioneering ‘new’ tech. In his update to the team, he said he was very much looking forward to helping the #AustralianSpace industry develop & launch our tech and capabilities to the world.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39463
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 33124
  • Likes Given: 8901
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #169 on: 04/01/2021 04:26 am »
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4817-australian-gilmour-space-technologies-fleet-space-technologies-sign-agreement

Australian Gilmour Space Technologies, Fleet Space Technologies sign agreement
Liam Garman
31 March 2021

“We have signed a contract to launch six Fleet Space Centauri nanosatellites on our Eris rockets in 2023,” he said.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #170 on: 04/01/2021 06:03 am »
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4817-australian-gilmour-space-technologies-fleet-space-technologies-sign-agreement

Australian Gilmour Space Technologies, Fleet Space Technologies sign agreement
Liam Garman
31 March 2021

“We have signed a contract to launch six Fleet Space Centauri nanosatellites on our Eris rockets in 2023,” he said.

More here:  https://fleetspace.com/news/gilmour-space-to-launch-fleet-satellites-in-2023
Quote
Two of Australia’s New Space pioneers — Queensland rocket manufacturer Gilmour Space Technologies, and South Australian nanosatellite manufacturer for the Internet of Things (IoT), Fleet Space Technologies — are joining forces to launch small satellites to orbit.

EDIT:  I haven't seen Adam grin that much since last year's Space Awards!  :)

EDIT 2:  Now all we need to do is find somewhere for them to launch from.  ;)
« Last Edit: 04/01/2021 06:08 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline plugger.lockett

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 139
  • Perth, WA
  • Liked: 51
  • Likes Given: 9
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #171 on: 04/08/2021 04:47 am »
EDIT 2:  Now all we need to do is find somewhere for them to launch from.  ;)

And find an orbital class vehicle to launch the satellites. ;)

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #172 on: 04/30/2021 07:11 am »
So.. to add to their list of high-profile clients, it seems Gilmour have now teamed up with DEWC:

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/operations/4861-gilmour-dewc-team-up-to-launch-moess-system
Quote
DEWC Systems and Australian launch services company Gilmour Space Technologies have signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU), aimed at facilitating collaboration for the launch of the next-generation Miniaturised Orbital Electronic Warfare Sensor Systems (MOESS) system — a reprogrammable, multi-purpose electromagnetic sensor system integrated and deployed on micro satellites.

For the folks who may not have been following closely, DEWC were the crowd that supplied the payload for Southern Launch's initial series of launches at KTR.
« Last Edit: 04/30/2021 07:12 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #173 on: 05/20/2021 11:21 pm »
Whilst the cynical could see that presser as merely being Gilmour crying poor:
Quote
"We haven't got any money from the space agency, but we are confident our technology will work, we just need the funding," he said.

of more interest to me is the "Launch Whitsunday" concept which it seems is proposed near Abbot Point just outside Bowen in North Queensland.

Ok, so it now seems there's more to this crazy idea than mere speculation.  In the news today:
Quote
Gilmour Space mulling new launch site in Queensland

Gilmour Space Technologies has reportedly expressed interest in opening a new launch site in Queensland, with the state government proposing Abbot Point, Mackay, as the potential home for the facility.  A technical and environmental investigation into the opportunity to launch space rockets from Abbot Point reportedly found that the site would be suitable for small-scale launch vehicles.

The Palaszczuk government confirmed it is working with Gilmour and local industry stakeholders to advance the project.

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development Steven Miles noted the advantages of opening a new launch site in Queensland.  “Growing our space industry in Queensland will add billions to the economy and create thousands of local jobs,” the minister said. “That’s why we are committed to the development of launch infrastructure.

“Our easterly facing position, proximity to the equator, and our leading launch and propulsion companies make Queensland the perfect place to invest in space.”

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4893-gilmour-space-mulling-new-launch-site-in-queensland

« Last Edit: 05/20/2021 11:23 pm by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #174 on: 05/25/2021 12:51 am »
Despite the naysayers, it looks like Gilmour are blasting ahead with this anyway:

Quote
QUEENSLAND ON SPACE LAUNCH TRAJECTORY
Published Thursday, 20 May, 2021 at 08:10 AM

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure, Local Government and Planning
The Honourable Dr Steven Miles

Queensland could be home to a new space launch facility at Abbot Point near Mackay.

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development Steven Miles said Queensland has plenty of home-grown advantages in the emerging space industry.

“Growing our space industry in Queensland will add billions to the economy and create thousands of local jobs. That’s why we are committed the development of launch infrastructure.

“Our easterly facing position, proximity to the equator, and our leading launch and propulsion companies make Queensland the perfect place to invest in space.” Mr Miles said.

“The technical and environmental investigation into the opportunity to launch space rockets from Abbot Point has found this particular site is suitable for small-scale launch vehicles.

Gilmour Space Technologies has expressed an interest in the site.

“We are keen to work with the team at Gilmour and local stakeholders.

"A facility like this would launch Queensland’s economic recovery into orbit. "

Mr Miles said other potential launch sites Queensland would also be considered.

“We also want to position the state to have the potential to meet longer-term, broader industry requirements,” he said.

“Having multiple launch facilities would be a huge drawcard for Queensland, which would undoubtedly bring more global players and jobs to the state.

“Investing in priority industries like space is a part of our economic recovery plan."

Queensland’s Strategic Defence Advisor for Aerospace, Air Vice-Marshal Neil Hart (ret’d) said launch facilities are one of the foundational elements of developing a true sovereign space capability.

“There is considerable interest in leveraging the geographic advantage of an East coast launch from low latitudes,” Mr Hart said.

“Identifying a site along the Queensland coast with the potential to launch multiple and large payloads to a range of nationally significant orbits would be a significant contribution to Australia's growing space capabilities.”

Mr Miles said in addition to this ongoing work, the next actions of our strategy will be underway, including working with the space industry to support the development of a rocket engine test site and an Earth observation data analytics hub.

“These projects align with Queensland’s strengths, will boost our economic recovery and will help ensure the growth of our space industry is all systems go,” Mr Miles said.

ENDS
https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/92147
 
« Last Edit: 05/25/2021 12:53 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline plugger.lockett

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 139
  • Perth, WA
  • Liked: 51
  • Likes Given: 9
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #175 on: 06/03/2021 08:57 am »
Putting my hand up, I'm one of the naysayers. Did you see their Facespace post today? Below is the supplied pic. That rocket looks very familiar. If I had to guess it's the same one from the photo a few posts above. Notice the fins are identical. But this rocket appears shorter. It's almost as if they took the rocket that let go on the pad, cut out the damaged bits, and bolted it back together.

I still maintain that they need to fly rockets, many of them, before they attempt an orbital shot.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #176 on: 06/03/2021 11:48 pm »
Putting my hand up, I'm one of the naysayers. Did you see their Facespace post today? Below is the supplied pic. That rocket looks very familiar. If I had to guess it's the same one from the photo a few posts above. Notice the fins are identical. But this rocket appears shorter. It's almost as if they took the rocket that let go on the pad, cut out the damaged bits, and bolted it back together.

Maybe they just needed to make it shorter for the photo op.  :)
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #177 on: 07/01/2021 01:12 am »
No surprises here:
Quote
Queensland-based Gilmour Space Technologies has secured $61 million in funding to launch its first orbital rocket next year.

The business, founded by two brothers in 2013, secured the cash from venture capital investors as part of their Series C round funding, now raising a total of $87 million.

The funders involved also include US-based Structure Ventures, Australian venture capital firms Blackbird and Main Sequence, and super funds HESTA, Hostplus and NGS Super.

The money will facilitate the launch of its “first orbital rocket in 2022”, grow its team, build “sovereign space manufacturing capability for rockets” and most notably, sending hybrid propulsion rockets into space.

---------------

Despite one of SpaceDev’s SpaceShipOne developments killing three employees in 2007 through a hybrid motor burning with HTPB and nitrous oxide, this type of technology is still considered far safer than solid propellants.

In 2022, the Gilmour Space Technologies is aiming to launch its ‘Eris’ orbital rocket into Low Earth Orbit.
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/4953-queensland-firm-secures-61m-to-launch-hybrid-propulsion-rockets

1. What on earth would a super fund seek to gain from this?!?  ???

2. Anyways, aside from the standard risk of lockdown travel restrictions, the only tiny problem they're likely to have is if the SA Government and the Australian Space Agency cave in to the minorities and refuse to issue permits to Southern Launch.  NIMBY.
« Last Edit: 07/01/2021 01:20 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Online CameronD

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2428
  • Melbourne, Australia
    • Norton Consultants
  • Liked: 901
  • Likes Given: 564
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #178 on: 08/26/2021 11:09 pm »
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/5036-gilmour-space-exolaunch-form-rideshare-alliance-for-small-satellite-launches
Quote
Queensland rocket company Gilmour Space Technologies has formed an alliance with Berlin-based Exolaunch for a “rideshare” in small satellite launches and deployment.

Under the agreement, the companies will provide tailored launch, precise deployment and in-space transportation services for small satellite operators using Gilmour’s Eris – a hybrid launch vehicle.

This new deal aligns with the Australian Space Agency’s national civil priority areas, a roadmap of the industry over the next decade including access to space, earth observation and more.

Gilmour recently raised $61 million from global investors in July, boosting its total funding to $64 million, the largest private equity investment bagged in Australia.

I often do wonder whether the folks at Gilmour aren't more interested in the equities market than actively pursuing space launch in Australia..  ::)
« Last Edit: 08/26/2021 11:13 pm by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

Offline Steven Pietrobon

  • Member
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39463
  • Adelaide, Australia
    • Steven Pietrobon's Space Archive
  • Liked: 33124
  • Likes Given: 8901
Re: Gilmour Space Technologies
« Reply #179 on: 08/31/2021 05:54 am »
Podcast with Adam Gilmour. Most of the interesting information is at the beginning of the podcast.

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/operations/5043-podcast-space-connect-meets-australian-pioneer-adam-gilmour

Here's a summary of the main points.

June/July 2022 Eris First Launch.
Commercial payload on first flight. Space Machines carrying HEO Robotics payload.
Full manufacturing of half the vehicle.
10% of flight components assembled.
Testing and validating systems, engines and avionics.
Component testing until November.
December and January finish assembly of vehicle.
Send to launch site in March/April for hotfire tests at pad.
Launch site at Abbot Point, near Bowen, Queensland.
Leasing land from Queensland state government.
Agreement about to be signed by Gilmour.
2-3 month approval process with Queensland government.
Start construction of launch pad before end of year.
Block 2 Vehicle has 800 kg payload.
Working with 3 or 4 Australian space missions.
Fidelity led last round.
Blackbird and Main Sequence provided continuous funding.
Payload fairing larger than Electron and LauncherOne.
Target is 20 to 30 launches a year from multiple launch sites.
« Last Edit: 08/31/2021 05:55 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Tags:
 

Advertisement NovaTech
Advertisement Northrop Grumman
Advertisement
Advertisement Margaritaville Beach Resort South Padre Island
Advertisement Brady Kenniston
Advertisement NextSpaceflight
Advertisement Nathan Barker Photography
0