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Offline bilboleo1

I think the EIS for Boca Chica said the buildings could be up to 68 feet tall.

Relevant sections of EIS below, with heights highlighted.  Max building height is 85 ft.  Max structure height is 250 ft.
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The EIS only indicates the proposed heights of buildings/structures, not the allowable maximum heights. The only true limits on heights of anything would be due to building permits (and their limitations, without a waiver) or other restrictions such as a nearby airport (cleared airspace), public parks or other spaces (historic sites) that require an unobstructed view in SpaceX's direction, or other such covenants and permit requirements.

The buildings can/would be as tall as needed, unless there are certain permit restrictions that apply to the site. Please don't take the EIS as the "Final Word" on what can and cannot be done for site development.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #61 on: 06/02/2017 03:00 PM »
The buildings can/would be as tall as needed, unless there are certain permit restrictions that apply to the site. Please don't take the EIS as the "Final Word" on what can and cannot be done for site development.

Yes, it's obvious that SpaceX may change their launch site and control center specs between the time of the EIS and the actual development of the site.  But if you read the EIS, it's also obvious that SpaceX put a lot of thought into those proposed specs, and since we have no better source for speculation, the EIS represents our best guess on what will happen.

In addition, if SpaceX proposed an 85 ft tall building in the EIS, I'd say it's safe to assume SpaceX checked with the local permits office to make sure that's possible.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #63 on: 06/03/2017 04:10 AM »
Aaand, road construction is in the local news:
http://www.krgv.com/story/35550679/3m-road-project-underway-to-facilitate-spacex

FYI for regular readers of this thread, this is the same article as was posted here earlier this week.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #64 on: 06/03/2017 01:38 PM »
Manufacturing plant tour highlights workforce needs
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/article_642ae64e-466c-11e7-8853-2733ebf514c4.html
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Tella’s Border Stamping Division in Brownsville specializes in stamping and forming parts for the automotive industry, and employs up to 40 skilled workers making $60,000 per year or more. The company operates two other divisions in Lombard, Ill., where it’s headquartered. Tella, which opened the Brownsville plant in 2001, also serves the aerospace, telecommunications and computer industries.

Vela said he organized Wednesday’s event after getting a visit at his Washington D.C. office about a month and a half ago from Stuart Boba, Tella’s chief financial officer.

“One of the things he brought up was that they have jobs available now and in the future, but that at times they have difficulty finding people that can match what they do here from a manufacturing standpoint,” Vela said.

He said he decided it was a good idea to get the company’s people together with local education and workforce-development leaders to find a solution...
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #65 on: 06/04/2017 12:15 PM »
South Texas port directors make case for support
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/article_47d47e28-480c-11e7-874e-a7cf74c45b07.html
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The ports range from the mega-sized Port of Brownsville, to the smaller Port of Harlingen and Port-Isabel-San Benito Navigation District, and Port Mansfield in WillacyCounty...

A second issue is the low cost of a barrel of crude oil, which has depressed oil exploration and production in the Gulf of Mexico, and forced layoffs in oil exploration firms and support companies, which long have operated out of Texas ports to serve offshore drillers.

The third issue mentioned by all the port directors was how to diversify their operations to attract new businesses.

More info on the Port of Brownsville here.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #66 on: 06/04/2017 08:57 PM »
Aaand, road construction is in the local news:
http://www.krgv.com/story/35550679/3m-road-project-underway-to-facilitate-spacex

FYI for regular readers of this thread, this is the same article as was posted here earlier this week.

Oops, missed that one.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #67 on: 06/05/2017 03:09 AM »
Drainage remains an issue in Valley
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/premium/article_8f74d1c8-48d5-11e7-981e-ef09fb3473bc.html
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Drainage: people really don’t think about it until the floodwater creeps up on them.

The Rio GrandeValley experienced its worst flooding in modern-day history in 1967, when Hurricane Beulah hit. The Category 3 hurricane unleashed a torrential downpour that brought with it more than 160 mph winds and caused more than $1.2 billion in damages across the area.

Note that Hurricane Beulah also destroyed much of the infrastructure of Boca Chica Village, which is why they now need to have fresh water trucked in and stored in above ground tanks.

Hurricane Beulah also re-drew much of the shore line, causing many properties that were once on land to become under water, as shown in the blue shaded area of the map.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #68 on: 06/06/2017 04:46 AM »
As the aircraft carrier USS Independence (a.k.a. Indy) heads into the Port of Brownsville shipping channel on her final voyage before being scrapped, a local new outlet interviews 2 people who served on board.

Nice video.  I liked it.


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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #69 on: 06/06/2017 05:21 AM »
 This might be the last carrier here. JFK and Kitty Hawk are both up for adoption and they're still figuring out how to handle the nukes.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #70 on: 06/06/2017 05:43 AM »
The Kitty was my last ship. Sad

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #71 on: 06/06/2017 12:40 PM »
Where is Enterprise going for decommissioning?  8 sub sized reactors, instead of a Nimitz classes 2 bigger reactors.  Gonna be a huge mess to handle.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #72 on: 06/06/2017 01:42 PM »
Where is Enterprise going for decommissioning?  8 sub sized reactors, instead of a Nimitz classes 2 bigger reactors.  Gonna be a huge mess to handle.
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Newport News Shipbuilding will deactivate and de-fuel the ship, which will then be formally decommissioned once all nuclear fuel has been removed.  The process started at the downtown piers in Newport News in order to set the conditions required in the propulsion plant for fuel removal. Huntington Ingalls Industries moved the ship on Saturday, 4 May 2015 from Pier 2 to her original birthplace, Dry Dock 11. Newport News employees will continue the defueling process in the dry dock.

Once the Navy completes fuel removal, the ship will be placed in long term storage pending reviews of technical and environmental procedures on how to properly dispose of the carrier.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65)#Decommissioning
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #74 on: 06/09/2017 08:04 PM »
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #75 on: 06/09/2017 08:14 PM »
Spanky's Burgers, Brownsville TX
https://www.spankys-burgers.com/

HOME OF THE 5LB SPACEX BURGER

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100% all american ground beef hand packed, with cheese, lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, mustard, may-o served on a very large toasted bun that is out of this world. Approximately 5 pounds.

Too bad Adam Richman moved on from competitive eating (example: his show Man v. Food).  Perhaps he could have filmed an episode around this challenge.

(I understand he's trimmed down a lot since that series.)
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #76 on: 06/09/2017 08:16 PM »
Spanky's Burgers, Brownsville TX
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A BFB?  (sorry, just had to)

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #77 on: 06/09/2017 10:32 PM »
Yumm.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #78 on: 06/10/2017 12:01 AM »
 I've killed a 1-1/2 pound Manuel's Super Burger in Odessa, but 4 of them might be pushing it.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 5
« Reply #79 on: 06/10/2017 12:49 AM »
Don't bite Nomadd! The Russian ladies are agents looking for invites to your lavish launch parties.

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