Author Topic: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion  (Read 399417 times)

Offline Flying Beaver

Yeah.. Not getting any better than this :P.
Saw OG-2 Booster Land in person 21/12/2015.

Offline clongton

  • Expert
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10325
  • Connecticut
    • Direct Launcher
  • Liked: 2147
  • Likes Given: 688
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #521 on: 12/26/2017 09:16 PM »
Now that the 1st FH is assembled, any word on when the static fire is planned?
First rollout may occur before the end of the year for a dry systems test with the fully integrated stack.

Elon said in a tweet (I'll have to look for it now) that **IF** the WDR goes all the way without a hitch that they would proceed immediately to the static fire.
That's a big if for a new vehicle.
Chuck - DIRECT co-founder
I started my career on the Saturn-V F-1A engine

Offline russianhalo117

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3985
  • AR USA / Berlin, DE / Moscow, RF
  • Liked: 808
  • Likes Given: 489
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #522 on: 12/26/2017 09:22 PM »
Now that the 1st FH is assembled, any word on when the static fire is planned?
First rollout may occur before the end of the year for a dry systems test with the fully integrated stack.

Elon said in a tweet (I'll have to look for it now) that **IF** the WDR goes all the way without a hitch that they would proceed immediately to the static fire.
That's a big if for a new vehicle.
yep Tweets are a bit behind L2.

Offline Norm38

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1038
  • Liked: 419
  • Likes Given: 570
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #523 on: 12/27/2017 05:28 PM »
It is a new vehicle and it isn't. They have to fuel the three cores separately, procedures for that should be the same as for F9. Did they build two extra tank farms, meaning the three cores are completely separate?  Or one big farm?  Triple flow that splits three ways adds complexity over separate feeds. But once the vehicle is fueled they should be able to quickly static fire. What would prevent that?

Offline envy887

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2946
  • Liked: 1375
  • Likes Given: 915
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #524 on: 12/27/2017 08:53 PM »
Yeah.. Not getting any better than this :P.

Is that the top of the second stage, or is it the interstage? It looks white and convex like the cap normally atop the upper stage during static fires, not shadowed and hollow like the interstage.

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #525 on: 12/27/2017 09:06 PM »
If you look reeeeaaaalllyy hard I think I can make out the cap on top..... Maybe, maybe not, may just be seeing things

Yeah.. Not getting any better than this :P.

Is that the top of the second stage, or is it the interstage? It looks white and convex like the cap normally atop the upper stage during static fires, not shadowed and hollow like the interstage.
"The Falcon has landed"

Offline russianhalo117

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3985
  • AR USA / Berlin, DE / Moscow, RF
  • Liked: 808
  • Likes Given: 489
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #526 on: 12/27/2017 09:16 PM »
If you look reeeeaaaalllyy hard I think I can make out the cap on top..... Maybe, maybe not, may just be seeing things

Yeah.. Not getting any better than this :P.

Is that the top of the second stage, or is it the interstage? It looks white and convex like the cap normally atop the upper stage during static fires, not shadowed and hollow like the interstage.
AFAIK, FH was fully integrated minus payload unit for WDR/SF ahead of transfer and mate to the TEL.

Offline ketivab

  • Member
  • Posts: 11
  • Liked: 31
  • Likes Given: 4
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #527 on: 12/28/2017 10:38 AM »
Chris Bergin in update thread:
Quote
We understand the big rocket is going to be on the pad very soon, or at least rolled out (fit checks can take a fair amount of work). Will be the full stack, per the fit check requirements. ...
Does 'full stack' mean 'with payload fairing'?

Offline nacnud

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2128
  • Liked: 299
  • Likes Given: 162
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #528 on: 12/28/2017 10:39 AM »
I think so. It's not a full fit check without it.  :D
« Last Edit: 12/28/2017 10:47 AM by nacnud »

Online Chris Bergin

Yep, full stack is launch configuration.....including the car. ;D

Offline ketivab

  • Member
  • Posts: 11
  • Liked: 31
  • Likes Given: 4
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #530 on: 12/28/2017 11:46 AM »
Thank you!

I can't wait!  ;D

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #531 on: 12/28/2017 12:01 PM »
So just to clarify, this is simply a rollout/erect test, not a WDR?
"The Falcon has landed"

Online Jakusb

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 584
  • NL
  • Liked: 304
  • Likes Given: 99
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #532 on: 12/28/2017 12:19 PM »
So just to clarify, this is simply a rollout/erect test, not a WDR?

Could be anything...
- Photo-op
- Fit test with GSE
- WDR unlikely on first roll-out

I am going for combo of first 2... ;)

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #533 on: 12/28/2017 12:24 PM »
My other question s how "soon?" Today? Few hours?

Yep, full stack is launch configuration.....including the car. ;D
"The Falcon has landed"

Offline cro-magnon gramps

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1482
  • Very Ancient Caveman
  • Ontario, Canada
  • Liked: 646
  • Likes Given: 4803
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #534 on: 12/28/2017 12:42 PM »
I created a rough time line on Friday. The TEL integration was pre CHRISTMAS day with TEL fit check happening after boxing day. That led into a roll out around the weekend before NewYears Day. The static fire won't happen before ZUMA launches because they will be into pad Fit checks and the danger posed by an explosion on the pad at 39A. That leads to a Net  of Jan 11th to 15th for launch. AT LEAST that's my rationalization: :D

I'm looking for WDR / SF at about the 7th - 8th of January, 3 days after Zuma Launches... with LRR finalized 2-3 days later, and launch NET January 11th ranging to January 15th... keeping eyes, fingers, and toes crossed... :D
"Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in the world, but it has not solved one yet." Maya Angelou
 Tony Benn: "Hope is the fuel of progress and fear is the prison in which you put yourself."

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #535 on: 12/28/2017 01:39 PM »
Julia Bergeron on twitter said that roadblocks are in place and the bus tours to 39a are not taking their normal behind the hanger route, indicating rollout is indeed today

EDIT: tweet to it:  Conversation
Julia
Julia
@julia_bergeron

33m

Embedded
2
1
11
Chris B - NSF
Chris B - NSF
@NASASpaceflight

24m
Good work! First sighting is likely to be on base, with the HIF door open and the FH at the base of the ramp on the TEL.  Getting up the ramp and vertical is a lot of work, so the trick will be to get confirmation when FH is out of the barn :)
2
7
Julia
Julia
@julia_bergeron
Replying to @NASASpaceflight and 2 others
Hard shot to get since roadblocks are up and no bus tour there. First shot may come from somebody that works at KSC...if they dare...

« Last Edit: 12/28/2017 01:44 PM by RocketLover0119 »
"The Falcon has landed"

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #536 on: 12/28/2017 01:47 PM »
GOING VERTICLE!!!!!!! According to SFN- Falcon Heavy is going vertical for the first time at pad 39A at the Kennedy Space Center.
"The Falcon has landed"

Offline loki

  • Member
  • Posts: 31
  • european
  • Liked: 9
  • Likes Given: 3
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #537 on: 12/28/2017 01:59 PM »
Stand up Heavy!! :)

Offline RocketLover0119

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 132
  • Space Geek
  • Tampa, Florida
  • Liked: 52
  • Likes Given: 92
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #538 on: 12/28/2017 02:04 PM »
SFN reports a fully vertical FH!
"The Falcon has landed"

Online AncientU

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5192
  • Liked: 3109
  • Likes Given: 4429
Re: SpaceX FH : Falcon Heavy Demo : early 2018 : Discussion
« Reply #539 on: 12/28/2017 02:12 PM »
Fast.  Barn to vertical.
"If we shared everything [we are working on] people would think we are insane!"
-- SpaceX friend of mlindner

Tags: