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#400
by
JimO
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:21
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Moving white dots also could be a star or commercial aircraft, they are seen (if rarely) moving upwards in the FOV (as the camera tracks downwards towards the horizon) -- but usually much, much later in the profile. But this bogie's motion seemed to me to have too large of a horizontal component. It could be a function of geometry from the camera location -- can anybody find the precise lat/long relative to the pad?
Note that MET 48 sec is just two sec prior to 'Max Q'.
If you saw it at MET 48 sec, here are the pre-flight traj parameters:
Mach 1.07
Alt 23,447 ft (4.4 sm)
range 2.30 sm
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#401
by
Oli4
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:22
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Can't you make a quick screen cap in the meanwhile. I'm very interested in what you saw. Thanks!
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#402
by
abacus
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:26
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psloss - 9/9/2006 8:06 PM
psloss - 9/9/2006 2:47 PM
No idea what it is, but I have a 2-sec DivX clip edited out of the Beach Tracker replay that I can post.
Chris is offline right now and it's a little bigger than the max attachment size. It'll be posted, but we may hear more from the quick look briefing first.
You should be able to upload it to L2 as larger attachments are allowed there. I will then move it here for you.
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#403
by
psloss
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:28
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abacus - 9/9/2006 3:13 PM
You should be able to upload it to L2 as larger attachments are allowed there. I will then move it here for you.
Edit: done.
Thanx.
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#404
by
abacus
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:36
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#405
by
HKS
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:36
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Seen the clip on L2 now.
First of all, it does not look like it's from the orbiter side of the ET, which is good...

On this video it looks like it is from the area around the intertank. I don't think they have done any of the process changes to the foam application on the backside of the ET.
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#406
by
Avron
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:37
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Screen shots... agreed.. it looks like its from the other side of the ET.. not an issue
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#407
by
JimO
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:41
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It's telling me a need a software update from RealPlayer to see this, then RealPlayer says no software update is available for this content. What am I overlooking?
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#408
by
psloss
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:45
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JimO - 9/9/2006 3:28 PM
It's telling me a need a software update from RealPlayer to see this, then RealPlayer says no software update is available for this content. What am I overlooking?
It needs a Divx codec; for now, it's so small, I'll race someone to convert it to MPEG-1!
If you want, you can download the codec from here:
http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/codec/
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#409
by
HKS
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:46
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JimO - 9/9/2006 9:28 PM
It's telling me a need a software update from RealPlayer to see this, then RealPlayer says no software update is available for this content. What am I overlooking?
Try to download the latest version of DivX from
www.dovx.com
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#410
by
abacus
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:48
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#411
by
psloss
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:49
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abacus - 9/9/2006 3:35 PM
Video in wmv format
Thanks -- that qualifies as winning the race.
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#412
by
abacus
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:51
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I thought it would be easier if I did it, as I knew I could upload it to this thread.
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#413
by
psloss
on 09 Sep, 2006 19:54
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abacus - 9/9/2006 3:38 PM
I thought it would be easier if I did it, as I knew I could upload it to this thread.
No problem -- happy to lose; just wanted to get something that folks here can see. Hopefully JimO can view that, as he's the one that inquired about it.
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#414
by
JimO
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:01
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Can anybody review the imagery just PRIOR to the motion of the white dot leftwards from the ET, to see if the white dot is present to the RIGHT of the shuttle moving TOWARDS it (i.e., is a celestial sphere background object)?
Then we can compute the el/az from the camera (once we have its lat/long) and compare with heavens-above.com's chart of bright planets.
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#415
by
JimO
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:04
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Well, I was able to review the wmv file (much thanks!) and sure cannot see any white dot coming in from the right in the field of view. It sure SEEMS to originate from the ET area.
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#416
by
psloss
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:05
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JimO - 9/9/2006 3:48 PM
Can anybody review the imagery just PRIOR to the motion of the white dot leftwards from the ET, to see if the white dot is present to the RIGHT of the shuttle moving TOWARDS it (i.e., is a celestial sphere background object)?
Then we can compute the el/az from the camera (once we have its lat/long) and compare with heavens-above.com's chart of bright planets.
Would you like a little more of the video? I can probably coordinate with abacus to get another WMV file up.
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#417
by
nathan.moeller
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:06
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JimO - 9/9/2006 2:48 PM
Can anybody review the imagery just PRIOR to the motion of the white dot leftwards from the ET, to see if the white dot is present to the RIGHT of the shuttle moving TOWARDS it (i.e., is a celestial sphere background object)?
Then we can compute the el/az from the camera (once we have its lat/long) and compare with heavens-above.com's chart of bright planets.
It appeared to liberate itself from the backside of the inner tank, meaning it would have no motion towards the shuttle.
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#418
by
JimO
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:08
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What still bothers me about it being real is its almost purely horizontal motion -- some imp in back of my mind keeps chanting, 'camera artifact, camera artifact!!!'.
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#419
by
DaveS
on 09 Sep, 2006 20:08
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ET video is now being downlinked from Atlantis.