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#180
by
kraisee
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:04
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Strut - I think I recall its 11:15am EDT for an opportunity if they were to scrub until tomorrow.
R.
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#181
by
psloss
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:07
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The crew is headed to the pad.
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#182
by
jacqmans
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:07
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#183
by
John44
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:09
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#184
by
nethegauner
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:10
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psloss - 8/9/2006 1:54 PM
The crew is headed to the pad.
Tell that CNN...!
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#185
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:11
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Boston Shuttle Head - 8/9/2006 12:51 PM
Not sure anyone picked this up on CNN - for what it's worth.....
POSTED: 7:38 a.m. EDT, September 8, 2006
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Florida (CNN) -- The scheduled late-morning liftoff of space shuttle Atlantis on Friday is likely to be delayed by 24 hours, NASA program manager Wayne Hale told CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/09/08/shuttle.launch/index.html
From who I've talked to, with ET reccomending to launch, I would find it surprising if they do scrub for 24 hours now. Remember, nothing changes for the next attempt, so why wait, is the rationale.
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#186
by
psloss
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:12
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nethegauner - 8/9/2006 7:57 AM
psloss - 8/9/2006 1:54 PM
The crew is headed to the pad.
Tell that CNN...!
It wouldn't help. I'd like to see a transcript, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that CNN didn't understand Wayne Hale correctly.
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#187
by
gocamels
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:12
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Just a complete off-topic...maybe the NFL should go with the DAY-GLO Orange like on the partial pressure suits for the Coach's Challange flags...poor Dolphins fans
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#188
by
psloss
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:14
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Chris Bergin - 8/9/2006 7:58 AM
From who I've talked to, with ET reccomending to launch, I would find it surprising if they do scrub for 24 hours now. Remember, nothing changes for the next attempt, so why wait, is the rationale.
Along those lines, I would speculate that there's some thinking that the sensor indication is not going to substantially change if they retank.
But that's not flight rationale, which is what I think is a bigger curiosity...
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#189
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:14
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Boeing Safety Crew Module reported ready for ingrees.
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#190
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:15
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Considering Water in F3L (-----)
------ is mulling whether they need to replace the Tyvek cover and if they don't, would rain intrusion negatively affect the thruster? May have to deselect due to cold temps/leak. Burntrhough is protected by RJD. The tech used binoculars and a hi beam light and confirmed he could see the injector face and no indications of water in the throat.
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#191
by
jacqmans
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:16
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#192
by
psloss
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:17
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Chris Bergin - 8/9/2006 8:02 AM
Considering Water in F3L (-----)
------ is mulling whether they need to replace the Tyvek cover and if they don't, would rain intrusion negatively affect the thruster? May have to deselect due to cold temps/leak. Burntrhough is protected by RJD. The tech used binoculars and a hi beam light and confirmed he could see the injector face and no indications of water in the throat.
Given the time that the cover came off last night (9:40 pm local), it might have held out until after last night's rain.
(I can post the sequence, though it violates the one screenshot rule.)
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#193
by
shuttlefan
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:17
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what's the latest weather -% of launching?
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#194
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:17
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07:58:54 MPS Integ ECO & LEVEL sensors checkout @11:52. ECO #3 only failure observed.
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#195
by
DaveS
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:18
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shuttlefan - 8/9/2006 2:04 PM
what's the latest weather -% of launching?
No longer talking in % anymore. It's either red/green.
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#196
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:19
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Source:
"The Tyvek cover actually came off after the rain was finished. They do no think any water got in the thruster. They are taking about what kind of temps, how long it would take to bake it out, what we could do to bake it out with attitudes, etc... This jet is not normally used on ascent. They won't be able to put the RSS back to put the cover bakc on if we scrub. There is a 10% chance of rain. They are concerned about Pc tube blockage. All thrusters on the ship are refurbished. Wayne Hale said the tube position varies depending on the jet and it would affect whether you'd get water in the tube."
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#197
by
jupiter
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:23
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#198
by
psloss
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:25
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Chris Bergin - 8/9/2006 8:06 AM
Source:
"The Tyvek cover actually came off after the rain was finished. They do no think any water got in the thruster. They are taking about what kind of temps, how long it would take to bake it out, what we could do to bake it out with attitudes, etc... This jet is not normally used on ascent. They won't be able to put the RSS back to put the cover bakc on if we scrub. There is a 10% chance of rain. They are concerned about Pc tube blockage. All thrusters on the ship are refurbished. Wayne Hale said the tube position varies depending on the jet and it would affect whether you'd get water in the tube."
OK, I'm going to post the screenshot sequence here and hope this will be indulged. At least it will show the location of the thruster.
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#199
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Sep, 2006 12:25
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Gary - 8/9/2006 1:09 PM
psloss - 8/9/2006 1:01 PM
Chris Bergin - 8/9/2006 7:58 AM
From who I've talked to, with ET reccomending to launch, I would find it surprising if they do scrub for 24 hours now. Remember, nothing changes for the next attempt, so why wait, is the rationale.
Along those lines, I would speculate that there's some thinking that the sensor indication is not going to substantially change if they retank.
But that's not flight rationale, which is what I think is a bigger curiosity...
Also if they detank and retank couldn't that cause some of the foam to suffer from the contraction/expansion of the tank?
Which is a concern, due to the evidence on ET-120 that it can lead to cyro-pumping on ascent = foam liberation.
