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3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« on: 09/07/2006 08:33 PM »
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Third flight of new SLBM ends in failure on September 7 (15:50 UTC), reportedly 2nd stage failure.
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RE: 3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« Reply #1 on: 09/08/2006 12:01 AM »
Not a lot going right over there lately.

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RE: 3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« Reply #2 on: 09/08/2006 03:45 PM »
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Third flight of new SLBM ends in failure on September 7 (15:50 UTC), reportedly 2nd stage failure.

This is the second failure of a Topol-M type missile in 20-ish total flights.  The first failure, in 1998, occurred at the end of the first stage burn.

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Re: 3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« Reply #3 on: 09/08/2006 06:55 PM »
I don't think that the missiles are too similar to count as the same family. The Bulava is shorter but wider and has a different control system AFAIK, which are pretty drastic changes for a solid fuelled rocket
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Re: 3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« Reply #4 on: 09/09/2006 01:09 AM »
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I don't think that the missiles are too similar to count as the same family. The Bulava is shorter but wider and has a different control system AFAIK, which are pretty drastic changes for a solid fuelled rocket

Russian accounts said from the beginning that Bulava was a derivative of Topal-M (extended by some media reports to say that Bulava *was* a Topol-M launched from a submarine), but I see that russanforces.org has reported that the solid rocket motors are not the same diameter or length or mass.  

Previously, I have classified rockets in the same family only if the first or core stage shared such essential properties as tankage diameter and engine type.  By this measure, I have to agree that Bulava is not merely an SLBM version of Topol-M.  This was, as a result, only the third launch test of the Bulava type, and the first failure.  There was also at least one additional test involving the ejection of an inert Bulava from a submerged submarine.

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Re: 3rd Bulava flight ends in failure
« Reply #5 on: 10/18/2006 12:16 AM »
They can make large liquids so well--but when it comes to SLBMs....

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