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#1060
by
docmordrid
on 20 Mar, 2017 02:52
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Musk said 400,000 miles.
Others can speculate if he meant km and the velocities for each.
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#1061
by
meekGee
on 20 Mar, 2017 04:50
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Musk said 400,000 miles.
Others can speculate if he meant km and the velocities for each.
The context indicates miles, since in the same sentence he also reference the distance to the moon being 250k IIRC.
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#1062
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 21 Mar, 2017 06:17
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#1063
by
Coastal Ron
on 21 Mar, 2017 16:12
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An article about an actual space tourist and their recommendations for the circumlunar travelers:
Travel Tips From a Real Space Tourist: Get Ready to Feel Awful - Bloomberg
An interesting passage:
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...says Garriott de Cayeux. “There’s a disagreement between what you see that you’re doing and what your body thinks it’s doing—and that often causes sea sickness.”
That perceptual disconnect tends to last for about three days before your brain begins compensating."
So about half the trip you're still trying to get acclimated to space.
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#1064
by
whitelancer64
on 21 Mar, 2017 17:00
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A good reason to consider a 5 minute jaunt into weightlessness - see how badly space-sick you become.
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#1065
by
Tuts36
on 21 Mar, 2017 17:15
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An article about an actual space tourist and their recommendations for the circumlunar travelers:
Travel Tips From a Real Space Tourist: Get Ready to Feel Awful - Bloomberg
An interesting passage:
"...says Garriott de Cayeux. “There’s a disagreement between what you see that you’re doing and what your body thinks it’s doing—and that often causes sea sickness.”
That perceptual disconnect tends to last for about three days before your brain begins compensating."
So about half the trip you're still trying to get acclimated to space.
I actually don't think this would put many potential customers off. Humans are willing to put up with a LOT of discomfort if it's in the name of "fun". Ask anybody who enjoys backpacking!
EDIT: I just read the bit about him voluntarily having a lobe of his liver surgically removed... okay, not as many people would go THAT far...
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#1066
by
Coastal Ron
on 21 Mar, 2017 18:31
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I actually don't think this would put many potential customers off. Humans are willing to put up with a LOT of discomfort if it's in the name of "fun". Ask anybody who enjoys backpacking!
EDIT: I just read the bit about him voluntarily having a lobe of his liver surgically removed... okay, not as many people would go THAT far...
I enjoy backpacking, but personally I would never do scuba diving due to the issues related to what happens if I have to cough or hiccup while under water (that's just me of course). So I'm not sure that once someone finds out all of the things they have to train for (even as a "passenger") that there would still be a big pool of high-wealth individuals that would want to do this type of trip.
And I'm glad you pointed out that part of the article where the guy had to have surgery to pre-empt the chances of a medical emergency while in space. That just goes to show that travel in space is not yet for the average person.
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#1067
by
Rocket Science
on 21 Mar, 2017 19:25
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A good reason to consider a 5 minute jaunt into weightlessness - see how badly space-sick you become.
I'll take them up flying with me and do some parabolic flights, some stalls, throw in some spins and then see if they turn green...
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#1068
by
Comga
on 21 Mar, 2017 19:33
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I actually don't think this would put many potential customers off. Humans are willing to put up with a LOT of discomfort if it's in the name of "fun". Ask anybody who enjoys backpacking!
EDIT: I just read the bit about him voluntarily having a lobe of his liver surgically removed... okay, not as many people would go THAT far...
I enjoy backpacking, but personally I would never do scuba diving due to the issues related to what happens if I have to cough or hiccup while under water (that's just me of course). So I'm not sure that once someone finds out all of the things they have to train for (even as a "passenger") that there would still be a big pool of high-wealth individuals that would want to do this type of trip.
And I'm glad you pointed out that part of the article where the guy had to have surgery to pre-empt the chances of a medical emergency while in space. That just goes to show that travel in space is not yet for the average person.
You worry too much
(Coughing, sneezing, or hiccups underwater? Not a real problem from my first hand experience)
Everyone who has gone to the ISS speaks glowingly and one of the "tourists" went twice.
Thousands of people do parabolic flights to get half minute periods of weightlessness and they experience discomfort and need heavy medication.
Long lines will form.
And where did Garriott's "de Cayeaux" come from?!?
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#1069
by
jpo234
on 21 Mar, 2017 22:00
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And where did Garriott's "de Cayeaux" come from?!?
From Wikipedia: In 2011 he was married and changed his name to Richard Garriott de Cayeux.
So: From his wife.
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#1070
by
Eric Hedman
on 21 Mar, 2017 22:08
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A good reason to consider a 5 minute jaunt into weightlessness - see how badly space-sick you become.
I'll take them up flying with me and do some parabolic flights, some stalls, throw in some spins and then see if they turn green... 
What do you mean turn green? That's the fun part of flying.
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#1071
by
mvpel
on 22 Mar, 2017 00:46
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What do you mean turn green? That's the fun part of flying. 
Adam Savage, as I recall, was instructed that it's best to eat bananas, since they taste about the same coming up as they do going down. I, on the other hand, can attest to the inadvisability of eating an Egg McMuffin before a scuba-diving boat trip. As much as I wanted to go to space when I was a kid, I'll probably have to wait for CERN to come up with artificial gravity.
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#1072
by
docmordrid
on 22 Mar, 2017 01:03
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I could eat about anything, cast iron stomach, but drinks were another matter. My kryptonite was orange juice. Right up the nose....Yeetch.
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#1073
by
MATTBLAK
on 24 Mar, 2017 13:44
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Hey, guys... I've finished my story dramatizing a notional Dragon manned Circumlunar flight. I worked on it for a week and drafted, tidied and edited it till I could no longer stand to look at it. Any typos or errors are all mine and all regrettable. It's not perfect, but I hope you enjoy it anyway.
EDIT - I found a couple rather annoying errors in the text that I have now fixed. Anyone who has already downloaded the story - if it's not too much trouble; please delete the previous version and take this one instead!
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#1074
by
Semmel
on 25 Mar, 2017 09:37
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Hey, guys... I've finished my story dramatizing a notional Dragon manned Circumlunar flight. I worked on it for a week and drafted, tidied and edited it till I could no longer stand to look at it. Any typos or errors are all mine and all regrettable. It's not perfect, but I hope you enjoy it anyway.
If anyone would prefer I upload a version that presents as Times New Roman font; let me know. But I prefer Arial font as I feel it's easier on the eyes. Regards; Matt.
EDIT - I found a couple rather annoying errors in the text that I have now fixed. Anyone who has already downloaded the story - if it's not too much trouble; please delete the previous version and take this one instead! 
Hi Matt.. it took you only a week to write that? I didn't read it yet but wow.. 27 pages, thats like 4 to 5 pages a day constantly. I never got beyond 4 pages during my thesis and never hold up that pace for more than two days. And the reason was not that the topic was difficult (it wasn't for me at the time of writing). Its just hard for me to write in any acceptable quality faster than 3 pages a day. Looking forwards to read it
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#1075
by
Welsh Dragon
on 25 Mar, 2017 09:49
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No time to read the whole thing now, but it's SpaceX, not Space X.
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#1076
by
MATTBLAK
on 25 Mar, 2017 10:11
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No time to read the whole thing now, but it's SpaceX, not Space X.
EDIT: Thanks to my fellow Welsh Dragon (
I have ancestry there) I have just revised this one more time to change to the correct 'SpaceX'. Heh - Everyone feel free to once more delete the previous versions. Terribly sorry - it was my failure to spot other errors the last times that prompted me to quickly re-write - but I missed this. The reason for the incorrect spacing of SpaceX? You have to override the 'wishes' of the spellcheck, otherwise at 4:30 in the morning when you make the 'final' draft; chances are you'll be too punchy to notice that the spellcheck has incorrectly changed it...
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#1077
by
IRobot
on 25 Mar, 2017 11:50
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I wonder if sailing for a week prior to launch would help. Usually it takes me also 3 days to get my sea legs...
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#1078
by
Robotbeat
on 25 Mar, 2017 15:25
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I wonder if sailing for a week prior to launch would help. Usually it takes me also 3 days to get my sea legs...
I think so. Other research has shown that you can help your inner ear adapt with certain strategies.
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#1079
by
meekGee
on 25 Mar, 2017 15:51
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I wonder if sailing for a week prior to launch would help. Usually it takes me also 3 days to get my sea legs...
I think so. Other research has shown that you can help your inner ear adapt with certain strategies.
Or they'll find out that you can be simultaneously both sea sick and space sick.