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#40
by
Radioheaded
on 09 Sep, 2006 13:41
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PAO mentioned seas @ 1-2 ft around SRB recovery area. Is it possible that rough seas/bad weather in general around recovery ships could scrub a launch? (might be a stupid question
if so, sorry)
James
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#41
by
rdale
on 09 Sep, 2006 13:49
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Seas today won't be an issue - it's the trip back that I'd be concerned about. I'm not sure about that, I would doubt they would cancel a launch for something like that (maybe it's an issue that would postpone during a "regular" mission, but certainly not at the end of a window with nothing available for a long time...)
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#42
by
Radioheaded
on 09 Sep, 2006 13:52
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thanks rdale. Always find your weather insight fascinating ( Im returning to school to study meteorology myself)
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#43
by
Joffan
on 14 Sep, 2006 23:37
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The weather forecast for next week around the landing (Wednesday?) looks pretty settled, just the odd afternoon thunderstorm.
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#44
by
psloss
on 16 Sep, 2006 19:44
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I dunno about Wednesday morning...the weather pattern looks more autumnal and less summer-like with cold fronts sweeping across the country. The next cold front is forecast to be through here in Atlanta on Tuesday, so it remains to be seen where it will be Wednesday morning for landing attempts. (The weather behind the the last front has been gorgeous.)
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#45
by
Joffan
on 16 Sep, 2006 20:46
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Yes, things have changed a bit since I posted... but Accuweather for Titusville FL still has the break in the weather on Thursday rather than Wednesday.
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#46
by
rdale
on 16 Sep, 2006 21:43
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Put absolutely no faith in the forecast from AccuWeather or any other automated system, they are completely computerized with no human interaction. That might work in the 24hr timeframe, but clearly not days out. Use the links here to the PAFB forecast center for their weekly planner.
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#47
by
Joffan
on 17 Sep, 2006 00:23
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Absolutely - I don't have any particular faith in the auto forecasts, but the previous observation was for a period of settled weather when I would expect a better match with detailed forecasts. Now that the week has a definte change in it I agree that I couldn't use anything from that source until the day before. By the same token, the more expert forecasts for a changeable period are probably only useful up to about 48 hours out - maybe 72, certainly not more.
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#48
by
psloss
on 17 Sep, 2006 14:12
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Haven't looked through all the weather products, but here's SMG's CONUS forecast this morning; source:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/smg/landfcsts_conus_pg1.htmlThe predictions for both KSC opportunities shows a chance of precipitation inside 30 nmi of the SLF and a chance of low ceiling...
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#49
by
psloss
on 17 Sep, 2006 14:15
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#50
by
psloss
on 18 Sep, 2006 13:06
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SMG has released their latest forecasts. They look about the same as yesterday's forecasts -- I didn't note yesterday the forecast potential for high crosswinds...
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#51
by
mkirk
on 19 Sep, 2006 00:40
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Here is the latest forecast for Wednesday. Trend is less than favorable with ceiling, crosswind, and showers all potential show stoppers for KSC. Plan so far is to target KSC only for Wednesday...
NOAA/NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
SPACEFLIGHT METEOROLOGY GROUP / ZS8
LYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER
HOUSTON TX 77058
500 PM CDT MONDAY SEPTEMBER 18 2006
U.S. LANDING SITES - EOM - WEDNESDAY 09/20/06
SHUTTLE LANDING FACILITY...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FL
FIRST OPPORTUNITY
KSC FEW020 SCT050 BKN100 7 24010P15
CHC TSRA WI 30 NM CHC BKN050
SECOND OPPORTUNITY
KSC FEW020 SCT050 BKN100 7 24010P15
CHC TSRA WI 30 NM CHC BKN050
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA
EDW FEW250 7 23012P18
NORTHRUP STRIP...WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR NM
NOR SCT050 SCT100 BKN250 7 15007P10
FLIGHT RULE VIOLATIONS:
KSC ... CIG/TS/XWIND
EDW ... NONE
NOR ... NONE
THE NEXT SCHEDULED FORECAST WILL BE ISSUED 19/0600Z
Mark Kirkman
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#52
by
psloss
on 19 Sep, 2006 01:05
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Seems like this cold front that's now reaching us here in Atlanta is the big player -- at least in terms of its timing. The weather behind the front is forecast to be much better.
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#53
by
mkirk
on 19 Sep, 2006 13:16
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Here is this mornings update from SMG, no improvement for Wednesday!!!
NOAA/NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
SPACEFLIGHT METEOROLOGY GROUP / ZS8
LYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER
HOUSTON TX 77058
700 AM CDT TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 19 2006
LANDING FORECAST FOR STS-115
EXPECTED LANDING DATE: 09/20/06
TIME: 0958Z
SITE: KENNEDY SPACE CENTER...FL
U.S. LANDING SITES - EOM - WEDNESDAY 09/20/06
SHUTTLE LANDING FACILITY...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FL
FIRST OPPORTUNITY
KSC FEW020 SCT050 BKN100 7 25010P15
CHC TSRA WI 30 NM CHC BKN050
SECOND OPPORTUNITY
KSC FEW020 SCT050 BKN100 7 27010P15
CHC TSRA WI 30 NM CHC BKN050
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA
EDW FEW250 7 23012P18
NORTHRUP STRIP...WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR NM
NOR SCT050 SCT120 BKN250 7 15007P10
FLIGHT RULE VIOLATIONS:
KSC ... CIG/TS/XWIND
EDW ... NONE
NOR ... NONE
U.S. LANDING SITES - EOM+1 - THURSDAY 09/21/06
SHUTTLE LANDING FACILITY...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FL
KSC SCT030 7 35004P07
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA
EDW FEW250 7 24005P08
NORTHRUP STRIP...WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR NM
NOR SCT040 BKN080 OVC150 7 22007P10
CHC SHRA WI 30 NM
FLIGHT RULE VIOLATIONS:
KSC ... NONE
EDW ... NONE
NOR ... PRECIP
THE NEXT SCHEDULED FORECAST WILL BE ISSUED 19/2200Z
KSC...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER...FL
ICAO ID IS KTTS
EDW...EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE...CA
ICAO ID IS KEDW
NOR...NORTHRUP STRIP WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR...NM
ICAO ID IS KE28 (KHMN IS NEARBY)
GARNER/HOOD/ORAM
Mark Kirkman
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#54
by
psloss
on 19 Sep, 2006 13:30
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mkirk - 19/9/2006 9:03 AM
Here is this mornings update from SMG, no improvement for Wednesday!!!
Steve Stich said in the mission status briefing that the current thinking was that the front would be passing through KSC in between the first and second opportunities tomorrow...perhaps not soon enough to clear the 2nd rev.
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#55
by
mkirk
on 19 Sep, 2006 14:19
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psloss - 19/9/2006 8:17 AM
mkirk - 19/9/2006 9:03 AM
Here is this mornings update from SMG, no improvement for Wednesday!!!
Steve Stich said in the mission status briefing that the current thinking was that the front would be passing through KSC in between the first and second opportunities tomorrow...perhaps not soon enough to clear the 2nd rev.
We also change from the night crosswind limits to the day limits (12 verses 15) from the first KSC rev to the second rev...that may help as long as the ceiling and storms get out of the way.
Mark Kirkman
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#56
by
mkirk
on 19 Sep, 2006 22:57
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If imaging takes us into Thursday/Friday at least all 3 CONUS sites look good.
NOAA/NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
SPACEFLIGHT METEOROLOGY GROUP / ZS8
LYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER
HOUSTON TX 77058
200 PM CDT TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 19 2006
LANDING FORECAST FOR STS-115
EXPECTED LANDING DATE: 09/21/06
TIME: 1021Z
SITE: KENNEDY SPACE CENTER...FL
U.S. LANDING SITES - EOM - THURSDAY 09/21/06
SHUTTLE LANDING FACILITY...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FL
KSC FEW020 7 35004P07
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA
EDW FEW250 7 24005P08
NORTHRUP STRIP...WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR NM
NOR FEW050 SCT100 7 22007P10
FLIGHT RULE VIOLATIONS:
KSC ... NONE
EDW ... NONE
NOR ... NONE
U.S. LANDING SITES - EOM+1 - FRIDAY 09/22/06
SHUTTLE LANDING FACILITY...KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FL
KSC FEW020 7 05003P04
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA
EDW SKC 7 23014P22
NORTHRUP STRIP...WHITE SANDS SPACE HARBOR NM
NOR FEW040 SCT250 7 05003P05
FLIGHT RULE VIOLATIONS:
KSC ... NONE
EDW ... NONE
NOR ... NONE
THE NEXT SCHEDULED FORECAST WILL BE ISSUED 20/0400Z
Mark Kirkman
if so, sorry)