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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #500 on: 03/23/2022 03:21 am »
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1505990738244509705

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Brost: Relativity's inaugural Terran 1 first stage for flight "will be leaving the factory in the next couple of weeks, and then we're working toward our first flight this summer."

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #501 on: 03/29/2022 12:36 pm »

Marcus House has a chat with Tim Ellis. Covers lots of ground, but not sure what's new info.


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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #502 on: 03/29/2022 12:43 pm »

Marcus House has a chat with Tim Ellis. Covers lots of ground, but not sure what's new info.



New info

Terran R:

Terran R has grown from 5 meters to 5.4meters (16.4 ft - 18 feet) in diameter
Terran R can do both RTLS and Barge landing
Testing a lot of Terran R hardware this year; Aeon R testing, full scale, full power
Aeon R "super high pressure" version of Aeon 1; not much larger than Aeon 1
Aeon R will have lower part count than Aeon 1
Aeon R "a 250k + thrust class engine"

Terran 1:

"A few months away from launch". Will announce date once stage testing is complete
First stage of Terran 1 will ship direct to the Cape where they will conduct a full mission cycle on the pad.
Terran 1 still got a shot at being the first CH4/02 vehicle to orbit
A fun payload will feature on GLHF
Smaller nosecone fairing on flights 1 & 2; enables VCLS DEMO 2 to be deployed

Misc:
New alloys hopefully reduce the excess 5-10% "parasitic mass" to < 5%; increased strength
« Last Edit: 04/01/2022 07:07 pm by Daniels30 »
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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #504 on: 04/05/2022 10:16 pm »
An update on the company's new installations.
https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1511458079673503744
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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #505 on: 05/04/2022 09:15 pm »
Fidelity slashes Relativity Space's valuation by as much as 21% in latest tech markdown

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The mutual fund giant Fidelity has slashed the value of some of its holdings in Relativity Space, an aerospace startup that makes 3D printed rockets. The SpaceX-rival was last valued at $4.2 billion in a funding round last year.

Fidelity's mutual fund Contrafund— a $110 billion fund that invests in a vast swath of private and public companies - marked down its holdings of Relativity's series D shares by around 21%, from $22.83 per share at the end of December to $17.96 per share at end of March, according to recent filings. The fund decreased the value of the smaller tranche of series E shares it purchased last year by a more modest 7%.

Neither Fidelity nor Relativity responded to requests for comment so the reasons for the decline or why the shares are valued differently are unclear, but it is possible Fidelity sold a portion of its shares. It's rare for asset managers like Fidelity not to equally value shares of a single company even if they are from different fundraising series.

Relativity was founded in 2015 by Tim Ellis and Jordan Noone, two young aerospace engineers who worked at Blue Origin and SpaceX, respectively. Since then it has raised $1.3 billion dollars in funding from marquee venture and private equity firms including BlackRock, Coatue, General Catalyst, ICONIQ Capital and Tiger Global. In 2021, the startup raised $650 million in funding led by Fidelity.

Late stage companies such as Instacart and Stripe have seen their valuations fall this year as publicly traded tech stocks have plummeted. Space companies such as Virgin Galactic have also been battered, with that company's stock down more than 40% this year after going public via SPAC in 2019. 

Assessing the value of privately held companies is more difficult since most shareholders do not publicly disclose change in valuations. Fidelity is a notable exception, which is why it provides a rare window into how late-stage startups are valued.

It is worth nothing Fidelity has not marked down the value of its holdings in Elon Musk-backed Space X, Relativity's much larger competitor.

Ellis, who is CEO, has said the company is still on track to complete its inaugural launch early this year, blasting Relativity's 3D-printed Terran 1 rocket into space. He also told Bloomberg earlier this year that is he is not interested in a SPAC.

"Some others tried SPACs when they were hot, but we were able to get private rounds done by high-quality investors," Ellis said. "We're focused on staying private as long as we can, and capital availability is high."

Does this mean investors are cooling off or are unhappy with the direction or progress lately?

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #506 on: 05/04/2022 11:00 pm »
The space SPARC ship has sailed. Given depressed sharemarket and share prices of companies that did go public last year it wouldn't be worth going public now.
RL shares are down to $7.06 and they have decent revenue stream with healthy financial reserves.





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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #507 on: 05/05/2022 07:15 am »
Fidelity slashes Relativity Space's valuation by as much as 21% in latest tech markdown
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Fidelity's mutual fund Contrafund— a $110 billion fund that invests in a vast swath of private and public companies - marked down its holdings of Relativity's series D shares by around 21%, from $22.83 per share at the end of December to $17.96 per share at end of March, according to recent filings.
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Does this mean investors are cooling off or are unhappy with the direction or progress lately?

It is in-line with devaluation of the whole "growth stock" market in Q1, driven by (expectation of) rising interest rates. When the expected earnings of the company are far in the future, discounting them to today's valuation is highly sensitive to interest rates.

The time of infinite amounts of cheap investor's money is over, for all industries including aerospace.
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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #508 on: 05/08/2022 07:50 am »
Interview with Tim Ellis.  Mostly a personal/company history piece.  They've gone from 100 to 700 employees over COVID, which is a fair growth rate.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/05/07/this-4-billion-space-start-up-began-with-a-cold-email-to-mark-cuban.html

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #509 on: 05/08/2022 11:36 am »

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #510 on: 05/09/2022 05:26 pm »

Tim Ellis tweeted:

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We roll in improvements in almost every print iteration… this newer version of Aeon 1 has a larger expansion ratio nozzle and higher efficiency, just realized I don’t think we showed off publicly until now


https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1523684126385053698?t=nyxeip36Oe7x2PeQNF-dOQ&s=19


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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #511 on: 05/10/2022 07:59 pm »
The first Aeon-R hardware!

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1524109980932091904
"Ramping up printed Aeon R hardware and it’s HUGE vs Aeon 1. Fourth Aeon R full scale thrust chamber printed below, building to 52 full engines per year production rate by mid next year"

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1524110158829219840
"First turbopump housings for Aeon R are coming out lookin rad…again next to Aeon 1 for scale"

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1524110371434291201
"The main valve housings are coming along too, the team is doing an amazing job designing, building, and iterating as we push to first tests this year"

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1524110733994184704
"Also finish machining our gas generator throttle body valves, these will help control our engine cycle and enable us to land Terran R with fine control of our main boost Aeon R engines."
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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #512 on: 05/10/2022 08:10 pm »
Looks like Timmy got the chairman's memo entitled:

Re: $1B Fidelity valuation downgrade.
« Last Edit: 05/10/2022 08:10 pm by ringsider »

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #513 on: 05/10/2022 08:27 pm »
Eh, aren’t all the other space companies down like 50-70%? 20 feels light, and they are private so it doesn’t really matter or mean anything

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #514 on: 05/12/2022 06:45 am »
Eh, aren’t all the other space companies down like 50-70%? 20 feels light, and they are private so it doesn’t really matter or mean anything

I wouldn't say it means nothing especially since they are trying to raise.

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #515 on: 05/13/2022 12:13 am »
Eh, aren’t all the other space companies down like 50-70%? 20 feels light, and they are private so it doesn’t really matter or mean anything

I wouldn't say it means nothing especially since they are trying to raise.

Are they currently in fundraising mode? I thought they had north of $1B raised already. At 700 ppl, their burn rate can't be *that* high. Trying to build a bigger warchest for Terran-R maybe?

~Jon

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #516 on: 05/13/2022 01:52 am »
Eh, aren’t all the other space companies down like 50-70%? 20 feels light, and they are private so it doesn’t really matter or mean anything

I wouldn't say it means nothing especially since they are trying to raise.

Are they currently in fundraising mode? I thought they had north of $1B raised already. At 700 ppl, their burn rate can't be *that* high. Trying to build a bigger warchest for Terran-R maybe?

~Jon
Last I read they had plenty of cash reserves. Because their technology isn't just limited to LV the investors like them. Have option to change direction if launch doesn't workout.

Terran 1 should fly this year so hopefully they will be launching regularly next year.



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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #517 on: 05/17/2022 06:15 pm »

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #518 on: 05/19/2022 04:56 pm »
https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1527319824854003713

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Data review ongoing - all clean and this baby will be shipping to our launch site at Cape Canaveral, next test in space! 🌠 Relativity’s first flight stage

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Re: Relativity Space: General Thread
« Reply #519 on: 05/21/2022 03:49 pm »

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And that’s a wrap! Flight stage 2 data reviews passed yesterday and we are shipping the stage to Cape Canaveral for launch. Thanks to our amazing team 🙌🏻 https://t.co/0NErwfGAYL

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1528017496212525057?t=Mz7TVGojZFhDdF1aTC7TgA&s=19

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