Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
Shell
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
Shell
Is there a steady-state signal to be seen?
Let us dream.
Indeed.
Then, Let us BUILD.Oh, I am TT, I am.
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
Shell
Let us dream.
Indeed.
Then, Let us BUILD.Oh, I am TT, I am.
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
ShellI was wondering Shell are you using two antennas to inject radiation where one builds up the energy and the other antenna is in a magnetic field region? I was considering that might cause some jerk reaction possibly. Also here is a link to another thread related to this: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41087.msg1585189#msg1585189 where I was wondering if it might be possible that with superimposed electric/magnetic fields (a positive charged mass moving left and a negative charged mass moving right in an electric field while immersed in a B field field coming out of the screen would cause both charges to experience a force up I believe. If the electric and B field reverse at the same frequency and exist at the same time, and the quantum vacuum were made up of such charges then I was wondering if they could both get a push in the same direction and then disappear again.
Normally in a cavity I don't think the electric and magnetic fields tend to exist at the same time in the same space with standing waves in a cavity. Except, maybe in a region between the magnetic field max and electric field max. Possibly the taper of the cavity in a frustum could imbalance the magnitude of superimposed E/B fields such that if they did exist at the same time, that one side would have greater fields and the result would be an uneven push on the QV.
I asked about two antennas because if one antenna resided in a B field max, then turning it on would induce an electric field inside the B field of the cavity. I was wondering if the image you had of the traveling modes in a cavity could have something to do with that.
for Kitchen Sink. Let us dream.
Indeed.
Then, Let us BUILD.Oh, I am TT, I am.
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
ShellI was wondering Shell are you using two antennas to inject radiation where one builds up the energy and the other antenna is in a magnetic field region? I was considering that might cause some jerk reaction possibly. Also here is a link to another thread related to this: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41087.msg1585189#msg1585189 where I was wondering if it might be possible that with superimposed electric/magnetic fields (a positive charged mass moving left and a negative charged mass moving right in an electric field while immersed in a B field field coming out of the screen would cause both charges to experience a force up I believe. If the electric and B field reverse at the same frequency and exist at the same time, and the quantum vacuum were made up of such charges then I was wondering if they could both get a push in the same direction and then disappear again.
Normally in a cavity I don't think the electric and magnetic fields tend to exist at the same time in the same space with standing waves in a cavity. Except, maybe in a region between the magnetic field max and electric field max. Possibly the taper of the cavity in a frustum could imbalance the magnitude of superimposed E/B fields such that if they did exist at the same time, that one side would have greater fields and the result would be an uneven push on the QV.
I asked about two antennas because if one antenna resided in a B field max, then turning it on would induce an electric field inside the B field of the cavity. I was wondering if the image you had of the traveling modes in a cavity could have something to do with that.I was using dual waveguides and then used dual antennas, both provided limited success. Sadly my home brew engineering had it limits. I regrouped and I'm down to a single antenna now that will lock a mode TE013. monomorphic did some great work simulating a modified loop design for me, he is very good.
By creating a stabilized TE012 or TE013 mode within the cavity, field strengths and locations of the E and B fields are quite predictable. With a stabilized high Q mode other external fields can be used to induce effects pointing to actions like MET (Mach Effect Thruster with PZT) or disruptions within the QV pertaining to Dr. Whites virtual particles with diaeletric. (You can even go from a high Q TE mode and flip the cavity into a particle accelerating TM010 mode very quickly with an externally applied B field changing boundary conditions in the cavity. Or you can combine subsets of different theories to ascertain which theories hold up like Todds' and several others. Also with the Quartz rod through the cavity I can test the frustum for any spacetime warpage.
If you're asking if I support one theory or another right now, honestly I can't say. I'll be listening and learning and picking brains at this Advanced Propulsion workshop.
On another note. I've been told that my thruster should be called a KSDrive, KSfor Kitchen Sink.
My very best,
Shell
Prof. M. Tajmar (TU Dresden, Germany) and Paul March (NASA) are going to be reporting on their EM Drive experiments. Prof. Tajmar, acknowledged the advice of Shawyer (*), for his experiments. It is well known that Shaywer has a different viewpoint than Prof. Woodward. The fact that Dr. White (NASA) advocates a different theory (degradable QV (**) ) than Dr. Woodward (Sciama/Mach Effect from GR) (***), on which they disagree, is well known. Several other attendees and presenters with different viewpoints.
My understanding is that it will not be streamed live, but it may be video recorded and the video available at SSI at a later date.
Anything you can do or say to help convince the organizers to post those videos would be greatly appreciated!
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
Shell
Is there a steady-state signal to be seen?
Great question. Yes there is. It's not what I've been interested in for several months.
Shell
Let us dream.
Indeed.
Then, Let us BUILD.Oh, I am TT, I am.I was using dual waveguides and then used dual antennas, both provided limited success. Sadly my home brew engineering had it limits. I regrouped and I'm down to a single antenna now that will lock a mode TE013. monomorphic did some great work simulating a modified loop design for me, he is very good.
By creating a stabilized TE012 or TE013 mode within the cavity, field strengths and locations of the E and B fields are quite predictable. With a stabilized high Q mode other external fields can be used to induce effects pointing to actions like MET (Mach Effect Thruster with PZT) or disruptions within the QV pertaining to Dr. Whites virtual particles with diaeletric. (You can even go from a high Q TE mode and flip the cavity into a particle accelerating TM010 mode very quickly with an externally applied B field changing boundary conditions in the cavity. Or you can combine subsets of different theories to ascertain which theories hold up like Todds' and several others. Also with the Quartz rod through the cavity I can test the frustum for any spacetime warpage.
If you're asking if I support one theory or another right now, honestly I can't say. I'll be listening and learning and picking brains at this Advanced Propulsion workshop.
On another note. I've been told that my thruster should be called a KSDrive, KSfor Kitchen Sink.
My very best,
Shell
i'm sorry for my ignorance, but how it will work this process of detection warpage spacetime with quartz rod ?

Let us dream.
Indeed.
Then, Let us BUILD.Oh, I am TT, I am.I was using dual waveguides and then used dual antennas, both provided limited success. Sadly my home brew engineering had it limits. I regrouped and I'm down to a single antenna now that will lock a mode TE013. monomorphic did some great work simulating a modified loop design for me, he is very good.
By creating a stabilized TE012 or TE013 mode within the cavity, field strengths and locations of the E and B fields are quite predictable. With a stabilized high Q mode other external fields can be used to induce effects pointing to actions like MET (Mach Effect Thruster with PZT) or disruptions within the QV pertaining to Dr. Whites virtual particles with diaeletric. (You can even go from a high Q TE mode and flip the cavity into a particle accelerating TM010 mode very quickly with an externally applied B field changing boundary conditions in the cavity. Or you can combine subsets of different theories to ascertain which theories hold up like Todds' and several others. Also with the Quartz rod through the cavity I can test the frustum for any spacetime warpage.
If you're asking if I support one theory or another right now, honestly I can't say. I'll be listening and learning and picking brains at this Advanced Propulsion workshop.
On another note. I've been told that my thruster should be called a KSDrive, KSfor Kitchen Sink.
My very best,
Shell
i'm sorry for my ignorance, but how it will work this process of detection warpage spacetime with quartz rod ?
Not that much different then what EagleWorks used but through the device will be a optical quality quartz rod and another identical quartz rod outside the cavity.
This will allow an comparison in travel times between the two beams. The quartz rod isolates the beam from any atmospheric effects that the EM fields could induce in the cavity.
Help?
Shell


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Its appears to be a close knit group, mainly around the Woodwards Mach Effect thruster from what I gathered a few months ago. There was no formal call for papers and think it was by invitation only. Had a couple of early conversations with someone whom suggested I bring a working demo of my Gen II, but that was before I started any testing and had no idea if it performed. Timing was bad, in addition...Prof. M. Tajmar (TU Dresden, Germany) and Paul March (NASA) are going to be reporting on their EM Drive experiments. Prof. Tajmar, acknowledged the advice of Shawyer (*), for his experiments. It is well known that Shaywer has a different viewpoint than Prof. Woodward. The fact that Dr. White (NASA) advocates a different theory (degradable QV (**) ) than Dr. Woodward (Sciama/Mach Effect from GR) (***), on which they disagree, is well known. Several other attendees and presenters with different viewpoints.
It is a small workshop, by design, and as such attendance was by invitation.
NSF readers can form their own judgement, for example, by reading the Mission Statement and Conference Overview previously posted by TheTraveller here: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40959.msg1584913#msg1584913 , and based on the reputation of the Space Studies Institute, since it was founded by the late Princeton University Professor Gerard K. O'Neill; later presided by Prof. Freeman Dyson (now in the Board of Trustees); and presently presided by Gary C Hudson.Quote from: Conference MotivationFundamental research in physics funded by the NSF tends to focus on quantum gravity and
string theory. NASA funded a small breakthrough propulsion program in the 1990s, but it was
not sustained. Even if money was available, it is not clear how and where funds should be
invested.
The typical conference format is ill-suited to this venture. Many conferences that accept
breakthrough propulsion papers allow any person to pay a fee and present any dubious technical
claim with little peer review or engagement with subject matter experts.
Therefore, we want to attempt to assemble a handful of potentially viable concepts for a
propulsion breakthrough, and give each of them a rigorous, real-time, peer-review on the twin
bases of theory and experiment. If someone has something with potential, they should relish a
chance to explain it to others. If their scheme is ultimately not viable, they can be freed to join
work in a more promising area(Bold added for emphasis)
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(*) https://tu-dresden.de/ing/maschinenwesen/ilr/rfs/ressourcen/dateien/forschung/folder-2007-08-21-5231434330/ag_raumfahrtantriebe/JPC---Direct-Thrust-Measurements-of-an-EM-Drive-and-Evaluation-of-Possible-Side-Effects.pdf?lang=en
(**) http://www.libertariannews.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AnomalousThrustProductionFromanRFTestDevice-BradyEtAl.pdf
(***) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Woodward
Can you say about what thrust you expect to see? Thanks.
No sir I can't. I'm currently chasing down a high impulse cyclic pulse jerk action and until that happens I simply can't say. I will say there is "something", so far it's unknown what excact conditions of timings cause it although I will find it.
Shell
Is there a steady-state signal to be seen?
Great question. Yes there is. It's not what I've been interested in for several months.
Shell
Steady-state signal AND a High Impulse Cyclic Pulse Jerk Action (HICPJA)? At the same time? Can you control the frequency of said HICPJA?
Edit: BTW, an answer of "No Comment" is perfectly understandable

Prof. M. Tajmar (TU Dresden, Germany) and Paul March (NASA) are going to be reporting on their EM Drive experiments. Prof. Tajmar, acknowledged the advice of Shawyer (*), for his experiments. It is well known that Shaywer has a different viewpoint than Prof. Woodward. The fact that Dr. White (NASA) advocates a different theory (degradable QV (**) ) than Dr. Woodward (Sciama/Mach Effect from GR) (***), on which they disagree, is well known. Several other attendees and presenters with different viewpoints.My understanding is that it will not be streamed live, but it may be video recorded and the video available at SSI at a later date.
That sounds awesome! I would love to watch any and all videos of/from the workshop! And I'm reasonably sure I'm not the only oneAnything you can do or say to help convince the organizers to post those videos would be greatly appreciated!
- that he is attending as well.Prof. M. Tajmar (TU Dresden, Germany) and Paul March (NASA) are going to be reporting on their EM Drive experiments. Prof. Tajmar, acknowledged the advice of Shawyer (*), for his experiments. It is well known that Shaywer has a different viewpoint than Prof. Woodward. The fact that Dr. White (NASA) advocates a different theory (degradable QV (**) ) than Dr. Woodward (Sciama/Mach Effect from GR) (***), on which they disagree, is well known. Several other attendees and presenters with different viewpoints.My understanding is that it will not be streamed live, but it may be video recorded and the video available at SSI at a later date.
That sounds awesome! I would love to watch any and all videos of/from the workshop! And I'm reasonably sure I'm not the only oneAnything you can do or say to help convince the organizers to post those videos would be greatly appreciated!
1) The organizers (the Space Studies Institute (SSI)) have arranged for video recording the presentations and they are planning to make them available in their website (ssi.org) some time after the workshop.
2) Several (apparently the majority, but I will confirm after the workshop) presentations are scheduled to report on experiments , for example:
A) Paul March (NASA): experiments on the EM Drive, in a vacuum chamber, to prevent the anomalous effect of thermal convection
B) Prof. M. Tajmar (TU Dresden, Germany): experiments on the EM Drive, in a vacuum chamber, to prevent the anomalous effect of thermal convection
C) Prof. J. Woodward and Prof. H. Fearn (California State, Fullerton) experiments on the Mach Effect Drive, in a vacuum chamber, to prevent the anomalous effect of thermal convection
D) Prof. D. Hyland (Texas A&M), "Experimental Dynamic Casimir Effect"
Also a number of researchers conducting experiments will be attending, for example SeeShells (very well known to readers of the EM Drive at NSF), Nembo Buldrini (Austrian Institute of Technology) who has another Mach Effect device, etc.
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Are you presenting Dr. Rodal? If so, do you have a quick summary of what you're covering?
Shell
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Are you presenting Dr. Rodal? If so, do you have a quick summary of what you're covering?
ShellYes, I am giving a presentation (not anything I have discussed so far at NSF-EM Drive) on Tuesday, 20 September, during Block 3, 1:30PM-3:10PM, sharing this block with Prof. Heidi Fearn (California State, Fullerton). I will discuss an exact solution, derivation from Hoyle-Narlikar theory of gravitation, a computational model and several comparisons with experimental force results conducted in a vacuum chamber, and impedance spectroscopy.
Good luck in your presentation!...
Are you presenting Dr. Rodal? If so, do you have a quick summary of what you're covering?
ShellYes, I am giving a presentation (not anything I have discussed so far at NSF-EM Drive) on Tuesday, 20 September, during Block 3, 1:30PM-3:10PM, sharing this block with Prof. Heidi Fearn (California State, Fullerton). I will discuss a self-consistent solution, derived from Hoyle-Narlikar theory of gravitation, a computational model and several comparisons with experimental force results conducted in a vacuum chamber. Also experimental impedance spectroscopy results.
On the Hoyle-Narlikar Theory of Gravitation
It is shown that the direct-particle action-principle from which Hoyle & Narlikar derive their new theory of gravitation not only yields the Einstein field-equations in the 'smooth-fluid' approximation, but also implies that the 'm'-field be given by the sum of half the retarded field and half the advanced field calculated from the world-lines of the particles. This is in effect a boundary condition for the Einstein equations, and it appears that it is incompatible with an expanding universe since the advanced field would be infinite. A possible way of overcoming this difficulty would be to allow the existence of negative mass.
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Are you presenting Dr. Rodal? If so, do you have a quick summary of what you're covering?
ShellYes, I am giving a presentation (not anything I have discussed so far at NSF-EM Drive) on Tuesday, 20 September, during Block 3, 1:30PM-3:10PM, sharing this block with Prof. Heidi Fearn (California State, Fullerton). I will discuss a self-consistent solution, derived from Hoyle-Narlikar theory of gravitation, a computational model and several comparisons with experimental force results conducted in a vacuum chamber. Also experimental impedance spectroscopy results.
I hadn't heard of Hoyle-Narlikar gravitation before, so I Wikipedia'd myself up to speed.Quote from: Stephan HawkingOn the Hoyle-Narlikar Theory of Gravitation
It is shown that the direct-particle action-principle from which Hoyle & Narlikar derive their new theory of gravitation not only yields the Einstein field-equations in the 'smooth-fluid' approximation, but also implies that the 'm'-field be given by the sum of half the retarded field and half the advanced field calculated from the world-lines of the particles. This is in effect a boundary condition for the Einstein equations, and it appears that it is incompatible with an expanding universe since the advanced field would be infinite. A possible way of overcoming this difficulty would be to allow the existence of negative mass.
This should be interesting!
So even a paper that old is still behind a paywall.
We concede that with the assumptions of dark energy, non-baryonic dark
matter, inflation etc. an overall self consistent picture has been provided
within the framework of the standard model. One demonstration of this
convergence to self consistency is seen from a comparison of a review of the
values of cosmological parameters of the standard model by Bagla, et al.
(1996), with the present values. Except for the evidence from high redshift
supernovae, in favour of an accelerating universe which came 2-3 years later
than the above review, there is an overall consistency of the picture within
the last decade or so, including a firmer belief in the flat (Ω = 1) model with
narrower error bars.
Nevertheless we also like to emphasize that the inputs required in fundamental
physics through these assumptions have so far no experimental checks
from laboratory physics. Moreover an epoch dependent scenario providing
self-consistency checks, e.g. CMB anisotropies, cluster baryon fraction as
a function of redshift does not meet the criterion of ‘repeatability of scientific
experiment’. We contrast this situation with that in stellar evolution
where stars of different masses constitute repeated experimental checks on
the theoretical stellar models thus improving their credibility.
Given the speculative nature of our understanding of the universe, a
sceptic of the standard model is justified in exploring an alternative avenue
wherein the observed features of the universe are explained with fewer speculative
assumptions. We review here the progress of such an alternative
model.