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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #540 on: 05/04/2017 09:19 am »
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Reaction Engines Ltd‏ @ReactionEngines 30m30 minutes ago

Last few hours before a major announcement - The team can't wait to let you know what we've been working on. #space #hypersonics

https://twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860053182755426305

I'm guessing the tweeted picture (attached) is a clue?

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #541 on: 05/04/2017 12:11 pm »
They appear to have just announced the construction of a new engine test facility on their website.

https://www.reactionengines.co.uk/reaction-engines-begins-construction-uk-rocket-engine-test-facility/

It gives the date 2020 for starting testing of the sabre engine core with sub-systems before that.
« Last Edit: 05/04/2017 12:13 pm by donaldp »

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #543 on: 05/04/2017 12:18 pm »
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4 May 2017

Work began today on building the UK’s latest rocket engine test facility, designed for firing the core engine of the ESA-backed SABRE propulsion system within three years.

The Synergistic Air-Breathing Rocket Engine is uniquely designed to scoop up atmospheric air during the early part of its flight to orbit. This slashes the need for the vehicle to carry bulky onboard oxygen for this part of the ascent, before switching to rocket mode drawing on internal propellants for its final climb to space.

Such engines have the potential to revolutionise space launches, powering vehicles that can take off and land like aircraft.

Capable of airbreathing flight up to five times the speed of sound, they could also lead to hypersonic air travel.

UK company Reaction Engines Ltd has been working on the engine for many years, with ESA playing an important technical management role since 2008.

Today, ground was broken on the new test facility at Westcott Venture Park in the UK, an historic site for rocket research over the past seven decades. Engines for the Blue Streak and Black Arrow rockets were tested there, for example.

“The opening of this new test facility marks an historic moment for the European aerospace industry and for the UK research and development in rocket propulsion,” remarked Franco Ongaro, ESA Director of Technology, Engineering and Quality.

“This facility enables the ground test of the engine cycle, opening the way to the first test flights, and to a new era.

“ESA is proud of this partnership with industry and the UK Space Agency, to which we bring our technical competence, which has supported the development to this stage, and we are confident, to its future flight success.”

ESA has invested €10 million in SABRE, joining £50 million from the UK Space Agency.

ESA independently reviewed the engine’s viability in 2010, opening the way to UK government investment. Reaction Engines Ltd has subsequently received private investment from BAE Systems, focused on accelerating development.

To allow the engine to use the superfast onrushing airstream as oxidiser, the air must be cooled from 1000°C to –150°C within just a hundredth of second, at the same time avoiding the formation of dangerous ice.

In 2012 ESA oversaw testing of the prototype ‘precooler’ required to cool the air, followed by research and development projects covering other elements such as the novel rocket nozzles, air intake design and thrust chamber cooling.

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Engineering_Technology/Test_site_for_ESA-backed_airbreathing_engine

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #544 on: 05/04/2017 12:22 pm »
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Reaction Engines Ltd‏ @ReactionEngines 30m30 minutes ago

Last few hours before a major announcement - The team can't wait to let you know what we've been working on. #space #hypersonics

https://twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860053182755426305

I'm guessing the tweeted picture (attached) is a clue?
Intriguing.

It's a constant diameter cylinder and the file name is "heater." I'm guessing it's the first section of the ground scale test engine.

I suspect they have something more than this to talk about. I wonder why the timing? Signing some kind of agreement?
[EDIT This is excellent news. While they are saying it will be 2020 before testing of a complete sub-scale SABRE I expect sub systems to be tested before then.

A key day for SABRE and Reaction Engines. ]
« Last Edit: 05/04/2017 12:27 pm by john smith 19 »
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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #545 on: 05/04/2017 12:22 pm »
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Reaction Engines Ltd‏ @ReactionEngines 7m7 minutes ago

#SABRETF1 is a unique facility to test the revolutionary SABRE engine. Next generation #space access and hypersonics #maythefourthbewithyou

https://twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860105502914641921

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« Reply #546 on: 05/04/2017 12:28 pm »
Ok now we're pushing on! This is great!

Will have to pop down on the train when this is up and running! :)
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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #547 on: 05/04/2017 12:31 pm »
what about moving this out of the advanced concepts section? :)


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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #548 on: 05/04/2017 12:33 pm »
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Reaction Engines Ltd‏ @ReactionEngines 2m2 minutes ago

#SABRETF1 will have a control room, a new workshop, assembly and office area alongside the test facility

https://twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860109319639109632

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #549 on: 05/04/2017 01:11 pm »
I suspect they will be testing more than just engines there. Could they build a whole sub scale demonstrator there or would that be done that BAe?

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #550 on: 05/04/2017 01:19 pm »
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Reaction Engines Ltd‏ @ReactionEngines 34m34 minutes ago

Engine firing noise will be kept down with a custom water based silencer at #SABRETF1

https://twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860113042339749888

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #551 on: 05/04/2017 01:29 pm »
Judging by BAE's recent attitude this engine will end up on anything other than Skylon.

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #552 on: 05/04/2017 01:36 pm »
Glad to see some tangible progress!

I've noticed that in PR they continue highlight SABRE's ability to cool air to -150 C in 1/100th of a second which is of course a tasty sound bite, but IIRC won't be the case for SABRE 4. So, I wonder if this means REL has decided to produce a SABRE 3 cycle engine - or maybe PR just likes reprinting those numbers?

In related news I found this nice cutaway of the single nozzle engine on the ESA site:



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« Reply #553 on: 05/04/2017 01:36 pm »
Promoting this thread to the Commercial Space Flight Section. Will leave a placeholder in Advanced....
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The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #554 on: 05/04/2017 02:11 pm »
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VIPs beginning to arrive for groundbreaking at the home of the next big leap in #aviation and #space Westcott #SABRETF1 test site

Picture on link below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860118604083232773
« Last Edit: 05/04/2017 02:12 pm by Star One »

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #555 on: 05/04/2017 03:46 pm »
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Reaction Engines is proud to announce ground is now broken on our multi-£M #SABRETF1 core engine test facility @WestcottVP

Pictures on the link below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReactionEngines/status/860147329260822528

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #556 on: 05/04/2017 08:38 pm »

I'm guessing the tweeted picture (attached) is a clue?
Intriguing.

It's a constant diameter cylinder and the file name is "heater." I'm guessing it's the first section of the ground scale test engine.

It's an old picture of a heat exchanger (e.g wired 2013)


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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #557 on: 05/05/2017 10:10 am »
https://publicaccess.aylesburyvaledc.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OLU12KCL0H000


Use this link to view the planning applications for Reaction Engines new Rocket test site at Westcott.


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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #558 on: 05/05/2017 11:04 pm »
https://www.ft.com/content/33f3cfe2-2ecd-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a

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The advantage of scaling back ambitions in the near term, Mr Thomas says, is that this market can be accessed more quickly and the initial costs of development are significantly lower.

Now capable of being used in modular scaleable configurations, the technology can also be applied to a greater range of sectors to help generate revenue earlier.

“Single stage to orbit, full re-usable systems are the ideal state, the Holy Grail,” he says from the company’s headquarters at the Culham Science Centre near Abingdon. “But there has to be something between the two. Single stage to orbit is still on the road map.

“But we have pushed the horizon out slightly further, partly to enable us to exploit these earlier opportunities that we have seen through dialogue with government and industry.”
« Last Edit: 05/05/2017 11:05 pm by t43562 »

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Re: The Reaction Engines Skylon Master Thread (6)
« Reply #559 on: 05/07/2017 08:05 pm »
Other opportunities, as in Prompt Global Strike?

Could the thrust chamber be adapted for LNG or JP-X for the Gen 6 fighter?
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