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#40
by
zubenelgenubi
on 12 Dec, 2016 21:31
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What are the ISS program constraints on this Dragon launch?
There's a small high-beta angle docking/berthing cut-out Feb. 21-24.
Is Dragon limited to berthing at Harmony (Node 2) nadir? If so, then it has to wait for HTV-6 to depart. Currently, that's scheduled for January 20.
Are the USOS Visiting Vehicle arrivals and departures limited to when there are a minimum of 2 USOS astronauts aboard? (Kelly and Padalka were to be the capture and berthing personnel for Dragon CRS-7.) I don't see any such limitations until next May. (Yurchikin and Fischer are the 2-person crew after the departure of Soyuz MS-03 until the arrival of Soyuz MS-05.)
Are there any other such operational constraints?
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#41
by
mainmind
on 13 Dec, 2016 15:30
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Is Dragon limited to berthing at Harmony (Node 2) nadir? If so, then it has to wait for HTV-6 to depart. Currently, that's scheduled for January 20.
I'm not sure about other operational constraints, but Dragon, Cygnus and HTV all have the same common berthing interface. However, Dragon has always gone in to Node 2 Nadir, while only Cygnus has berthed to Node 1 Nadir since the PMM was moved from that berth to Node 3 Forward. HTV has berthed to both Node 2 Nadir and Node 2 Zenith, visible here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_the_International_Space_Station#/media/File:STS-133_International_Space_Station_after_undocking_5.jpg .
I expect they will wait for Node 2 Nadir to be clear before berthing Dragon but they could wait for a successful launch first, as it takes about 2 days to catch up to the ISS from Florida.
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#42
by
russianhalo117
on 13 Dec, 2016 16:05
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Is Dragon limited to berthing at Harmony (Node 2) nadir? If so, then it has to wait for HTV-6 to depart. Currently, that's scheduled for January 20.
I'm not sure about other operational constraints, but Dragon, Cygnus and HTV all have the same common berthing interface. However, Dragon has always gone in to Node 2 Nadir, while only Cygnus has berthed to Node 1 Nadir since the PMM was moved from that berth to Node 3 Forward. HTV has berthed to both Node 2 Nadir and Node 2 Zenith, visible here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_the_International_Space_Station#/media/File:STS-133_International_Space_Station_after_undocking_5.jpg .
I expect they will wait for Node 2 Nadir to be clear before berthing Dragon but they could wait for a successful launch first, as it takes about 2 days to catch up to the ISS from Florida.
N2Z ACBM will be available for VV use until PMA-3 relocate activities are performed ahead of IDA-3 arrival and install.
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#43
by
soltasto
on 18 Dec, 2016 22:52
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#44
by
Tomness
on 19 Dec, 2016 00:16
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Somewhat unexpected tweet from USLaunchReport Mike Wagner:
https://twitter.com/USLaunchReport/status/810596374718939136
SpaceX confirms mating CRS-10 Dragon to Falcon 9 booster, Cape Canaveral for late January launch
The tweet includes an Eutelsat Flacon 9 picture.
Utilizing 39A full bay to process more than one at a time?
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#45
by
Comga
on 19 Dec, 2016 01:05
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Somewhat unexpected tweet from USLaunchReport Mike Wagner:
https://twitter.com/USLaunchReport/status/810596374718939136
SpaceX confirms mating CRS-10 Dragon to Falcon 9 booster, Cape Canaveral for late January launch
The tweet includes an Eutelsat Flacon 9 picture.
Some of the external cargo was shipped to Florida only a few days ago.
That has to be mounted into the trunk before the trunk can be attached to the second stage.
Have we ever seen images of the Dragon and trunk attached to a second stage that was not mounted on a first stage?
Could this have been a fit test mating of some sort?
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#46
by
old_sellsword
on 19 Dec, 2016 01:10
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Somewhat unexpected tweet from USLaunchReport Mike Wagner:
https://twitter.com/USLaunchReport/status/810596374718939136
SpaceX confirms mating CRS-10 Dragon to Falcon 9 booster, Cape Canaveral for late January launch
The tweet includes an Eutelsat Flacon 9 picture.
Some of the external cargo was shipped to Florida only a few days ago.
That has to be mounted into the trunk before the trunk can be attached to the second stage.
Have we ever seen images of the Dragon and trunk attached to a second stage that was not mounted on a first stage?
Could this have been a fit test mating of some sort?
Maybe Dragon mating for pad fit checks, de-mating for loading payloads into Dragon and doing a static fire, then re-integrating Dragon with all the payloads on board for launch?
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#47
by
gongora
on 19 Dec, 2016 01:12
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Somewhat unexpected tweet from USLaunchReport Mike Wagner:
https://twitter.com/USLaunchReport/status/810596374718939136
SpaceX confirms mating CRS-10 Dragon to Falcon 9 booster, Cape Canaveral for late January launch
The tweet includes an Eutelsat Flacon 9 picture.
Some of the external cargo was shipped to Florida only a few days ago.
That has to be mounted into the trunk before the trunk can be attached to the second stage.
Have we ever seen images of the Dragon and trunk attached to a second stage that was not mounted on a first stage?
Could this have been a fit test mating of some sort?
Maybe Dragon mating for pad fit checks, de-mating for loading payloads into Dragon and doing a static fire, then re-integrating Dragon with all the payloads on board for launch?
Someone's reply to his tweet says that Dragon was mated to its TRUNK this weekend, which makes a heck of a lot more sense.
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#48
by
Comga
on 19 Dec, 2016 04:08
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Somewhat unexpected tweet from USLaunchReport Mike Wagner:
https://twitter.com/USLaunchReport/status/810596374718939136
SpaceX confirms mating CRS-10 Dragon to Falcon 9 booster, Cape Canaveral for late January launch
The tweet includes an Eutelsat Flacon 9 picture.
Some of the external cargo was shipped to Florida only a few days ago.
That has to be mounted into the trunk before the trunk can be attached to the second stage.
Have we ever seen images of the Dragon and trunk attached to a second stage that was not mounted on a first stage?
Could this have been a fit test mating of some sort?
Maybe Dragon mating for pad fit checks, de-mating for loading payloads into Dragon and doing a static fire, then re-integrating Dragon with all the payloads on board for launch?
Someone's reply to his tweet says that Dragon was mated to its TRUNK this weekend, which makes a heck of a lot more sense.
That "someone" is Joe Gasbarre of the NASA Langley SAGE-III-ISS team. He
should be in the know about CRS-10.
That he corrected the details of the mating but did NOT dispute the "late January launch" part is a hopeful sign.
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#49
by
Comga
on 25 Dec, 2016 18:20
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SpaceflightNow just yesterday (12/24) changed the SpX-10 launch date from January to February.
Does anyone know what prompted that change?
It is now only four weeks until January 22, as if anyone here is not aware of that.
If SpX-10 is the third flight of 2017, including the RTF, and the second from the new LC-39A launch pad, it's not surprising that it wouldn't happen that fast, but is there some real news?
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#50
by
Comga
on 29 Dec, 2016 17:29
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A new projection/rumor from GSFC says that SpX-10 is expected to slip day for day with the RTF. Jan 22 is 40 days after Dec 16, the first announced date for RTF. 40 days after Jan 8 is Feb 17.
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#51
by
gongora
on 04 Jan, 2017 18:09
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Tweet from James Dean:NASA now planning for Feb. 8 launch of Falcon 9/Dragon from KSC on SpaceX's CRS-10 cargo mission; Dragon would berth at ISS on Feb. 11.
This date doesn't seem any more likely to hold than the last one...
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#52
by
envy887
on 04 Jan, 2017 20:59
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Tweet from James Dean:
NASA now planning for Feb. 8 launch of Falcon 9/Dragon from KSC on SpaceX's CRS-10 cargo mission; Dragon would berth at ISS on Feb. 11.
This date doesn't seem any more likely to hold than the last one...
Depends if they get Iridium launched on Sunday.
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#53
by
Chris Bergin
on 04 Jan, 2017 21:40
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Tweet from James Dean:
NASA now planning for Feb. 8 launch of Falcon 9/Dragon from KSC on SpaceX's CRS-10 cargo mission; Dragon would berth at ISS on Feb. 11.
This date doesn't seem any more likely to hold than the last one...
Depends if they get Iridium launched on Sunday.
Probably Monday and then Echostar 23...but manifests move around all the time. Thing with CRS is they have the whole ISS berthing ops to boot.
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#54
by
oldAtlas_Eguy
on 14 Jan, 2017 18:57
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With the successful launch and landing of the Iridium Next Flt 1, will the next up launch hold to its 26 Jan date?
If Echostar -23 slips then so does the CRS-10 date.
We shall see if LC-39a is really complete or has teething problems. The chances are significant that the CRS-10 planning date will slip.
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#55
by
Comga
on 14 Jan, 2017 23:40
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The NASA GSFC Raven team on Wednesday sent out to involved personnel invitations for launch viewing from the Banana River Campround on Feb. 8. Confidence in that specific date was not high.
With today's successful Return to Flight something close to that seems possible.
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#56
by
Mangala
on 15 Jan, 2017 08:09
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I hope it will not slip too much as, for now, we have a daylight launch which would be a wonderful thing to get the first daylight first stage landing at LZ-1.
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#57
by
DOCinCT
on 15 Jan, 2017 14:42
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I find it odd that the NASA Launch Schedule page (also landings) has a listing for the Orbital ATK OA-7 mission but nothing on CRS-10.
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#58
by
gongora
on 17 Jan, 2017 16:58
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#59
by
wannamoonbase
on 17 Jan, 2017 17:22
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With the successful launch and landing of the Iridium Next Flt 1, will the next up launch hold to its 26 Jan date?
If Echostar -23 slips then so does the CRS-10 date.
We shall see if LC-39a is really complete or has teething problems. The chances are significant that the CRS-10 planning date will slip.
Surely there is going to be teething and learning on LC39A.
I haven't seen or recall a booster being erected and being loaded to even check the basics of the pad.
Hard to see how they go from zero to flight in 10 days.
