Author Topic: Paris Hilton buys SS2 ticket (Read 26230 times)

Stowbridge · « **on:** 08/28/2006 08:07 pm »

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17635404&method=full&siteid=62484&headline=paris-a-real-space-cadet--name_page.html

JulesVerneATV · « **Reply #1 on:** 08/28/2006 08:50 pm »

She's going into space because 'she was a fan of the StarWars' and lack of facilities may shock her ?

That's a strange article

Suzy · « **Reply #2 on:** 08/28/2006 09:00 pm »

Perhaps they could do the world a favor and shove that stupid female out the airlock...?

mong' · « **Reply #3 on:** 08/28/2006 09:02 pm »

well, a lot of things can go wrong in an SS2 !

"The bad news is she'll be coming back to Earth again afterwards" LOL !

astrobrian · « **Reply #4 on:** 08/28/2006 09:16 pm »

they could always let her volunteer for lighting mast duty on the launch pad every now and then

stargazer777 · « **Reply #5 on:** 08/28/2006 09:25 pm »

Get the name right guys -- its Paris Hilton, not Paris Hinton. And she may be an idiot, but she's our idiot and a damn good looking one at that. She is the last one to go out the air lock.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #6 on:** 08/28/2006 09:56 pm »

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stargazer777 - 28/8/2006 10:12 PM

Get the name right guys -- its Paris Hilton, not Paris Hinton. And she may be an idiot, but she's our idiot and a damn good looking one at that. She is the last one to go out the air lock.

Hilton, good looking?

Amy Lee everytime if we're talking good looking (and talented):

punkboi · « **Reply #7 on:** 08/28/2006 10:11 pm »

Meh. Paris Hilton can be the first slutty celebrity to fly into space...but the world will still know her more for that little night vision escapade in that hotel room.

vt_hokie · « **Reply #8 on:** 08/28/2006 10:33 pm »

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stargazer777 - 28/8/2006 5:12 PM

And she may be an idiot, but she's our idiot and a damn good looking one at that. She is the last one to go out the air lock.

Eh, she's okay looking. But I've seen better looking women who also have some intelligence and some class to go along with their looks! But hey, let's be honest...who among us wouldn't want to inherit a fortune and never have to work a day in our lives!

So, is this really what the dream of routine access to space has become? Following in the footsteps of Yuri Gagarin, Alan Shepard, Neil Armstrong, etc....Paris Hilton: Astronaut!

punkboi · « **Reply #9 on:** 08/28/2006 10:36 pm »

Someone oughta pay for Ms. Alba to go on SS2...

astrobrian · « **Reply #10 on:** 08/28/2006 10:37 pm »

How can you tell if she is good looking beyond all that make up, but I guess when launching by the pound she would save ya money

btw: is that goofy excuse for a dog going too?

vt_hokie · « **Reply #11 on:** 08/28/2006 10:56 pm »

Anyone catch this line?

EXCLUSIVE She'll go into orbit on Branson rocket

Maybe they're planning a secret upper stage booster just for her flight!

hyper_snyper · « **Reply #12 on:** 08/28/2006 11:21 pm »

Paris Hilton and rocketry.... the jokes are endless. lol

stargazer777 · « **Reply #13 on:** 08/28/2006 11:53 pm »

Never heard of her, but she certainly looks talented. She can stay on board too.

stargazer777 · « **Reply #14 on:** 08/28/2006 11:55 pm »

Whatever lights your rocket....

punkboi · « **Reply #15 on:** 08/29/2006 01:28 am »

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stargazer777 - 28/8/2006 4:40 PM Never heard of her, but she certainly looks talented. She can stay on board too.

Who... Jessica Alba? You're joking right???

astrobrian · « **Reply #16 on:** 08/29/2006 01:58 am »

I got it! Branson is secretly developing a new RCS thruster using the vast deposits of Helium in Paris Hiltons head. The constantly self replenishing supply will make the venture far cheaper and easier to operate. All the pilot has to do is ask a simple math question and helium is deposited through her port and starboard vent holes. All you have to do is pipe that up to the actual rocket and bada bing

free RCS

stargazer777 · « **Reply #17 on:** 08/29/2006 03:26 am »

How can I find out how to post a photo on a thread? I know it can be done, I just can't seem to make it work.

stargazer777 · « **Reply #18 on:** 08/29/2006 03:34 am »

She's nice, but Jenna Elfman gets my vote.

Carl G · « **Reply #19 on:** 08/29/2006 03:35 am »

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stargazer777 - 28/8/2006 10:13 PM

How can I find out how to post a photo on a thread? I know it can be done, I just can't seem to make it work.

Open up a new post, but before you submit it, check the "attach file" option. Submit the post and you'll get the page where you can upload a picture from your computer. Make sure it's under 100K.

J Britt RSA · « **Reply #20 on:** 08/29/2006 05:00 am »

Grace Park and Trisha Helfer from BSG would get my vote.

PurduesUSAFguy · « **Reply #21 on:** 08/29/2006 11:50 am »

STDs in space! LOL

kevin-rf · « **Reply #22 on:** 08/29/2006 12:53 pm »

If you open space up to the masses who do you think will buy tickets. Those with globs of disposable money (Hollywood types, and rich space lovers).

Just because every last person on this list would sell a major organ for a ticket, does not mean we should make fun of those who pony up the money. It's one thing to be jealous of those who get money dumped on them for no reason, but to slander them no matter how big a bimbo is another thing.

No tax money is being used as far as I can tell...

I think we will be seeing tons of these 'press' releases once virgin actually starts flying.

stargazer777 · « **Reply #23 on:** 08/29/2006 04:11 pm »

You are absolutely right! These are the people (actors, rock stars, models, wealthy business men and women, artists, etc.) with the huge disposable incomes who will bring attention and acceptance to space tourism when it finally becomes more broadly available -- and make it economically viable. And then, who knows....

vt_hokie · « **Reply #24 on:** 08/29/2006 04:37 pm »

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kevin-rf - 29/8/2006 8:40 AM

No tax money is being used as far as I can tell...

That is true, unlike the case of $20 million Soyuz flights being sold so that a taxpayer funded space station can become a playground for the ultra-wealthy.

Rocket Ronnie · « **Reply #25 on:** 08/29/2006 06:44 pm »

Stick her on the test flight. Watch her squeel

kneecaps · « **Reply #26 on:** 08/29/2006 08:01 pm »

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Stowbridge - 28/8/2006 8:54 PM

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17635404&method=full&siteid=62484&headline=paris-a-real-space-cadet--name_page.html

As a longtime resident of the UK, I would advise you to beleive very little this newspaper says...its a bit like the 'National Inquirer'

Rutan p*sses me off...well not the man himself, the global reaction to him and his Spaceship One etc etc, making out like he invented the wheel...not even topping what was done by Vostok and Mercury nearly 50 years ago.....*RANT* *RANT*.

meiza · « **Reply #27 on:** 08/29/2006 08:09 pm »

I'm not very excited about all these suborbital launcher. On the face of it, it doesn't provide any real usefulness to anyone, it's just a wasteful play by the super-rich.

Maybe eventually it leads to reusable and reliable rocket engines and some systems that can then be used for space exploration and science and ultimately making launch to LEO cheap, enabling extraterrestrial resource use.

But Branson using essentially one-use hybrid rocket motors doesn't sound to advance the state of the art much...

zinfab · « **Reply #28 on:** 08/29/2006 08:27 pm »

Virgin Galactic meets Paris Hilton?

There are too many paradoxes to parse here. My brain hurts.

kevin-rf · « **Reply #29 on:** 08/29/2006 08:30 pm »

Acually I am more excited about these up starts (Rutan,Virgin,SpaceX,Orbital,ect). They are using someones money to go after a nich that may or may not open up a section of space for the people. The big national prestige programs do the things needed to advance knowledge and security of the people, but are not designed for us the tax payer to play in. It is the difference between a pickup game in an abondoned lot and watching a pro baseball game on the tube.

(not to be construed as a slam of big national programs, Several aspects are critical, save lives, save natual resources, and should never be cut). I really feel the national programs are geared towards research bases (manned and unmanned) and not colonization, tourism, growth.

So Chris how about a section for organs we are willing to sell to pay for a ride ;-)

aero313 · « **Reply #30 on:** 08/29/2006 08:38 pm »

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kevin-rf - 29/8/2006 8:40 AM

No tax money is being used as far as I can tell...

Tell that to the residents of New Mexico...

stargazer777 · « **Reply #31 on:** 08/29/2006 08:57 pm »

You are right that NASA isn't going into the space tourism business anytime in the forseeable future -- if ever. If its going to happen it will have to be the up-starts you described. We are too far from colonization to draw any conclusions, but certainly the first permanent bases and their attandant staffs will be from NASA or its equivalents in Europe, Russia, China or other aspiring space faring nations. Private firms will trail considerably behind in this effort in terms of capabilities for quite a while.

meiza · « **Reply #32 on:** 08/29/2006 09:01 pm »

I wouldn't lump SpaceX into the same as Virgin. The other builds real orbital rockets, the other flies rich tourists to 100 km, which is more like a high airplane ride except you burn a lot of rubber.

kevin-rf · « **Reply #33 on:** 08/29/2006 09:30 pm »

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meiza - 29/8/2006 3:48 PM

I wouldn't lump SpaceX into the same as Virgin. The other builds real orbital rockets, the other flies rich tourists to 100 km, which is more like a high airplane ride except you burn a lot of rubber.

Virgin is building a step, if the step works they might build another step that could lead to a real commerial LEO flight. Who knows...

SpaceX is looking at everything everyone has ever done and thinks they could do it better to get to LEO. They are trying to redo the economic side of the rocket equation. Will they suceed, I don't know. Just look at the other threads for the debate on that one.

There are several niches in commercial space and what has attracted most of the money to date is GEO com sats. The other markets have not been developed. Look at the guys selling rides on a commercial vomit comet, or those that sell MIG 25 rides, or the tycoon paying to test inflatable structures, or the guys who keep buying launch services to test a solar sail design. SpaceX and Virgin are just part of the developing picture. That is what excites me, and information is so hard to come by on all these projects.

Yes it is ashame that other commercial attempts have fizzled. Iridium/Globe Star never met the market expectations, XM/Sirrius are still spending more money than they are taking in, GEO imaging companies are not raking in globs of money either.

Same token, Comm Sats, Sat. TV rake in gobs of money...

... The great thing about these programs is because they are raising private money (mostly) they are free to try what ever nich they want as long as they can find sponsors.

Is the NM funding, real money or tax breaks. That gets into the great tax debate of should you provide tax benifits and money for infrastructure so as to reap other economic benifits. It is a trend that quite debatable.

astrobrian · « **Reply #34 on:** 08/29/2006 09:41 pm »

Commercial LEO has been one of Burt Rutans ideas for a while now. Tier 1 is his suborbital and Tier 2 is LEO. Tier 3 is pretty obvious

I would think with VG in on Burts design for sub orbital he would be in on the LEO as well, so it is just a matter of time.

meiza · « **Reply #35 on:** 08/29/2006 09:59 pm »

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kevin-rf - 29/8/2006 10:17 PM

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meiza - 29/8/2006 3:48 PM

I wouldn't lump SpaceX into the same as Virgin. The other builds real orbital rockets, the other flies rich tourists to 100 km, which is more like a high airplane ride except you burn a lot of rubber.

Virgin is building a step, if the step works they might build another step that could lead to a real commerial LEO flight. Who knows...

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There are several niches in commercial space and what has attracted most of the money to date is GEO com sats. The other markets have not been developed. Look at the guys selling rides on a commercial vomit comet, or those that sell MIG 25 rides, or the tycoon paying to test inflatable structures, or the guys who keep buying launch services to test a solar sail design. SpaceX and Virgin are just part of the developing picture. That is what excites me, and information is so hard to come by on all these projects.

Yes it is ashame that other commercial attempts have fizzled. Iridium/Globe Star never met the market expectations, XM/Sirrius are still spending more money than they are taking in, GEO imaging companies are not raking in globs of money either.

Now you're talking even about vomit comets and Mig 25 rides. A guy named Fred J. McCall said this:

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I don't count suborbital trips as 'launch services'. Launch services
put things in orbits.

If anything counts, a trampoline manufacturer is building 'launch
systems'. You go suborbital - for a very small definition of
'suborbital'.

I don't see those or even Rutan's hybrid shuttlecocking spaceships that much paving a way to space. Maybe they can be, maybe not. What are the technical advancement that spaceshipone gives? As far as I know, the approach is just not scalable to make any difference to orbital launches. Not the rocket motor, not the re-entry form. Not the huge dead weight. What is left?

astrobrian · « **Reply #36 on:** 08/29/2006 10:06 pm »

I dont think the design for orbital will or even can be the same. And it is not so much the ground breaking technology or what have you, it is about giving you a chance to go up into space. sure it is still right now for the rich, but with a little luck the prices will come down as more options and competitiion flurishes.

vt_hokie · « **Reply #37 on:** 08/29/2006 10:13 pm »

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kevin-rf - 29/8/2006 5:17 PM

Is the NM funding, real money or tax breaks. That gets into the great tax debate of should you provide tax benifits and money for infrastructure so as to reap other economic benifits. It is a trend that quite debatable.

Indeed, it is debatable. I think that for things such as highway infrastructure, passenger rail infrastructure, emergency services, etc it's clear that taxes should provide the necessary subsidies. But for professional sports arenas that are owned by private concerns, or for something like this, I'm not so sure. Why should New Yorkers' tax dollars go toward a new Yankee stadium while the franchise pays Alex Rodriguez $25 million a year? Likewise, why should taxpayers have to subsidize any part of someone's joyride to the (more or less arbitrary) edge of "space"?

stargazer777 · « **Reply #38 on:** 08/30/2006 03:04 am »

Yes, but building rockets without customers is a business model for oblivion. They must have customers like Virgin willing to risk substantial capital to get this started. If suborbital has even limited success, that will provide enough encouragement for one or more companies to build the necessary orbital vehicles -- and for some commercial services like Virgin to take a risk and buy them. There will be many attempts and failures before a consistent and profitable commercial passenger and cargo service to orbit (and one day beyond I hope) finally emerges. History shows us that the first groups through the door are rarely the ones who emerge victorious. Sad but true.

stargazer777 · « **Reply #39 on:** 08/30/2006 03:16 am »

If you are looking for historical parallels, check the histories of the Suez and Panama Canals, the first trans-Atlantic communications cables, the English Channel tunnel, and the first attempts to build trans-continental railroads in the US. They all went bust the first several times. This kind of change never comes easy and it never comes cheap.

Peter NASA · « **Reply #40 on:** 08/30/2006 04:03 pm »

Well it's not a PR stunt, if she did indeed pay for the ticket.

astrobrian · « **Reply #41 on:** 08/30/2006 08:55 pm »

Putting her money where her beliefs are is how I see it, first the X prize, now an orbital trip.

tesh90 · « **Reply #42 on:** 08/31/2006 10:48 am »

hopefully its a one way (half way in this case) ticket!

realtime · « **Reply #43 on:** 09/03/2006 03:35 am »

I've been away too long.

Paris Hilton in space. Like, wow! It raises, so to speak, the titillating possibility of sex in space. Who will claim that "first" or, gasp! -- has it already been claimed? There have been a number of flights by women of first-rate intelligence, stamina, and drive. Some of them have even been downright sexy in a domineering, forthright sort of way.

Has there already been a bouncing in the bulkheads? A writhing round the retros? Some passion under pressure suits? Did a wild astronette already get busy shaking her space junk? (the metaphors only go downhill from here) Or is the prospect of an intimate liason with nerdy payload specialists and ultra-macho military geeks enough to make any woman's soul run cold?

Inquiring minds want to know.

For lovely, empty-headed Paris, there are logistical problems. Who will design the tear-away suit? Who will hold her Chihuahua? What if it urps? And who will work camera and sound? Worse, even the prolific and profligate Hilton might be er, hard-pressed to complete the deed in such a sadly too-short (harumph) time in mickey-gee! But who knows, there may be more than one record claimed at FL3300 that day. One for firstest, another for fastest, and if she's really lucky, one for mostest.

We'll all be pulling for her, or at least some sad types I know will be ...
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Zachstar · « **Reply #44 on:** 09/03/2006 04:07 am »

There is no time to do such a thing and you will obviously be strapped down because you are gonna quickly hit Gs on the way down.

But we do have a sexy woman going to the space station

apollolanding · « **Reply #45 on:** 09/18/2006 08:36 pm »

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stargazer777 - 28/8/2006 11:21 PM She's nice, but Jenna Elfman gets my vote.

Amen brother. I've fancied Ms. Elfman for years! And she's married to the nephew of my favorite composer, Danny Elfman.

apollolanding · « **Reply #46 on:** 09/18/2006 08:54 pm »

Anousheh Ansari is an intelligent, driven, professional, beautiful woman. She may only be considered a "spaceflight participant" but she's got a lot more responsibilities and training than a passenger in a VG/SS2 up and down ride that's for sure.

zappafrank · « **Reply #47 on:** 09/21/2006 11:24 pm »

Jenna Elfman?

She won't go into space, she is afraid Lord Xenu will catch her and torture her ($cientology nut job)

vt_hokie · « **Reply #48 on:** 09/21/2006 11:32 pm »

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apollolanding - 18/9/2006 4:37 PM

Anousheh Ansari is an intelligent, driven, professional, beautiful woman.

I need to find one of those...and single, of course!

vt_hokie · « **Reply #49 on:** 09/21/2006 11:33 pm »

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zappafrank - 21/9/2006 7:07 PM

Jenna Elfman?

She won't go into space, she is afraid Lord Xenu will catch her and torture her ($cientology nut job)

LOL!

mlorrey · « **Reply #50 on:** 09/26/2006 06:45 am »

Sounds to me like her dad, of Hilton Hotels fame, did it just to dig at Bigelow, of Budget Suites fame....

publiusr · « **Reply #51 on:** 10/17/2006 08:40 pm »

I wonder if she even knows about the space art for space hotels with her family name on it.