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#280
by
Andy L
on 28 Aug, 2006 00:44
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Looks like a very high chance of rollback now.
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#281
by
Chris Bergin
on 28 Aug, 2006 00:48
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Getting way too chatty on here. People come here for news updates so let's ensure they aren't going through mountains of chatty stuff.
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#282
by
astrobrian
on 28 Aug, 2006 00:52
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Impact regarding ET 123 can be absorbed by finishing the tank at KSC if the contigency time is used
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#283
by
gordo
on 28 Aug, 2006 00:54
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if they rollback whats the chances of getting back out to use this window, or is it game over?
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#284
by
nathan.moeller
on 28 Aug, 2006 00:56
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gordo - 27/8/2006 7:41 PM
if they rollback whats the chances of getting back out to use this window, or is it game over?
It'll take some serious discussions with the Russians to see if they can push the window into the September 8-13 timeframe which would mean pushing the Russian Soyuz landing into a dead-of-night descent. Russia wants to avoid it because they just switched back to civilian landing management and the teams are pretty new, so of course they'd like to have daylight for recovery operations. NASA can make the window but it will be a close call and it will be up to the Russians if a rollback is ordered.
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#285
by
Avron
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:05
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Question on moving the Russian launch...
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#286
by
Chris Bergin
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:06
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The briefing tomorrow will be interesting, especially with the outcome of talks with the Russians over the respective launch windows.
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#287
by
TFGQ
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:07
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so bascially this storm has to shift more left to avoid the rollback that is my understanding am i right?
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#288
by
nathan.moeller
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:08
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Exactly. That or it has to weaken substantially but Leinbach said that's highly unlikely. If anything happens it has to do so tonight.
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#289
by
Avron
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:09
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TFGQ - 27/8/2006 8:54 PM
so bascially this storm has to shift more left to avoid the rollback that is my understanding am i right?
or tighten the Right Turn
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#290
by
Andy L
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:12
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TFGQ - 27/8/2006 7:54 PM
so bascially this storm has to shift more left to avoid the rollback that is my understanding am i right?
In a "significant" way.
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#291
by
Avron
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:18
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Great work from the KSC team to get the vehicle cleared... Sounds like there was only one item that stopped Monday as an option
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#292
by
nathan.moeller
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:18
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Well ladies n gents that's it. Keep those fingers, toes and eyes crossed until tomorrow! Go Atlantis!
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#293
by
Avron
on 28 Aug, 2006 01:24
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Chris Bergin - 27/8/2006 2:43 PM
Mark's on our respective teleboxes 
Just in-case he was missed...
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#294
by
Jamie Young
on 28 Aug, 2006 03:20
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I hope the Russians give Atlantis a chance later in September.
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#295
by
Rocket Nut
on 28 Aug, 2006 08:35
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Jamie Young - 27/8/2006 11:07 PM
I hope the Russians give Atlantis a chance later in September.
If they do, you know it will cost us some big bucks. They haven't done much to help us without our throwing dollars at them. We will hide it in some diplomatic verbiage, I'm sure.
Cheers,
Larry
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#296
by
GioFX
on 28 Aug, 2006 08:52
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Rocket Nut - 28/8/2006 10:22 AM
They haven't done much to help us without our throwing dollars at them.
I don't think its nice to say they are interested only in bucks... and I also think they did a lot for the ISS since the shuttle fleet was grounded post-Columbia.
Just let's hope they can relax the night-landing rule and nothing bad happens with EXP 13 re-entry.
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#297
by
anik
on 28 Aug, 2006 09:09
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Rocket Nut - 28/8/2006 12:22 PM
If they do, you know it will cost us some big bucks. They haven't done much to help us without our throwing dollars at them
I do not understand why you are thinking so bad of Russians...
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#298
by
Rocket Nut
on 28 Aug, 2006 09:18
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anik - 28/8/2006 4:56 AM
Rocket Nut - 28/8/2006 12:22 PM
If they do, you know it will cost us some big bucks. They haven't done much to help us without our throwing dollars at them
I do not understand why you are thinking so bad of Russians... 
I'm not thinking bad of Russians. I'm just stating a fact. I am referring to the management of the Russian side of the ISS. In the past, they have squeezed dollars from NASA when NASA had little choice. From documents I have seen, they have charged us more than they have charged tourists for soyuz flights. Kinda kicking NASA when they were down.
Again, not against the Russians...just ISS management and their attitude towards funding when NASA has needed help.
Cheers,
Larry
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#299
by
montmein69
on 28 Aug, 2006 09:21
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GioFX - 28/8/2006 3:39 AM
I don't think its nice to say they are interested only in bucks... and I also think they did a lot for the ISS since the shuttle fleet was grounded post-Columbia.
I totally agree.
STS 115 is a freight mission.
Soyouz is a crew mission.
If any bad problem during Soyouz mission, it's the death of ISS.
If STS 115 is postponed ... nothing more than a new delay.
Just let's hope they can relax the night-landing rule and nothing bad happens with EXP 13 re-entry.
During post-Columbia period, Progress as well as Soyouz have done their job. Russian's safety rules were applied, and nothing bad happened.
I don't know if they can change that rules in a so short delay.
So .... please ... don't put any banana peel under the russian's shoe 