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#40
by
Thorny
on 12 Jan, 2017 21:51
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Anyone who has lived in Florida, as I have, would disagree.
The whole time I lived in Rockledge (1960s through 1980s) the area was universally called "The Cape". Only when one started getting into more detail was a distinction made between KSC and CCAFS.
There was a (bad) Martin Caidin 1970s novel called "The Cape", which was about KSC/Apollo. There was a (bad) 1990s TV series about the Shuttle called "The Cape".
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#41
by
AS_501
on 12 Jan, 2017 22:04
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Of course, this will be the "Third First Flight" from 39A, preceded by Apollo 4 and STS-1. In time, the "Fourth First Flight" will take place with F9H, to be followed by....
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#42
by
edkyle99
on 13 Jan, 2017 21:26
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Following up, I'll note that press releases from NASA and SpaceX have continued to identify the new Falcon 9/Heavy pad as LC 39 Pad A at Kennedy Space Center. NASA leased the site to SpaceX, so NASA still owns the pad even though it no longer serves as an integral part of Kennedy Space Center.
I fully anticipate a pileup of incorrect reports calling it "Cape Canaveral LC 39A". Heck, we may even see a "Cape Kennedy" or two!
If
I was naming the site, I would call it "Titusville Beach Launch Complex 1".

- Ed Kyle
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#43
by
oldAtlas_Eguy
on 14 Jan, 2017 18:54
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With the successful launch and landing of the Iridium Next Flt 1, will the next up launch hold to its 26 Jan date?
There seemed to be no problems with the LV or launch procedures so only problems encountered with the first launch off of LC-39A could be a hindrance to meeting the date.
If Echostar -23 slips then so does the CRS-10 date.
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#44
by
rockets4life97
on 14 Jan, 2017 19:13
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It's not clear to me if the slower fueling used for Iridium-1 can be used on a GTO mission like Echostar without impacting the first stage landing. There was a performance loss for this slower fueling. It remains to be seen whether this will be the procedure until the new COPVs (or other changes) are implemented.
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#45
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 14 Jan, 2017 19:26
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With the successful launch and landing of the Iridium Next Flt 1, will the next up launch hold to its 26 Jan date?
There seemed to be no problems with the LV or launch procedures so only problems encountered with the first launch off of LC-39A could be a hindrance to meeting the date.
If Echostar -23 slips then so does the CRS-10 date.
While the RTF Iridium launch this morning was crucial to proceeding with Echostar-23 from LC-39A, it was not the only major hurdle left. LC-39A still needs to be finished and its systems fully certified and validated before Echostar-23 mission can launch.
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#46
by
IanThePineapple
on 14 Jan, 2017 19:36
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It's still KSC. It makes me cringe when either KSC and CCAFS are used in place of the other. THEY ARE NOT ONE IN THE SAME NEWS COMPANIES!!!
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#47
by
Lars-J
on 14 Jan, 2017 19:52
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"NET 2017-Jan on Falcon 9 from LC-39A at Cape Canaveral."
OK, so LC 39 Pad A is now considered part of Cape Canaveral rather than Kennedy Space Center?
- Ed Kyle
Cape Canaveral is the geographical area. Both KSC and CCAFS are located on the cape that has been named Cape Canaveral since the 16th century. (Original Spanish name was Cabo Caņareal) So it is not wrong per se.
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#48
by
eeergo
on 14 Jan, 2017 21:26
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Original Spanish name was Cabo Caņareal.
Not to abound too much on linguistics and off-topicness, but it never was called Caņareal (Royal cane/reed, roughly): Caņaveral is the place where the caņavera (from "real/veritable cane") plant grows, a reedbed. Basically a swamp, which the Cape is - nothing to do with kings.
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#49
by
toruonu
on 15 Jan, 2017 13:47
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Maybe you guys want to start a separate name discussion thread somewhere else? I'd guess even outside the SpaceX subcategory alltogether. And let's keep this about discussion on Echostar launch instead...
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#50
by
wannamoonbase
on 16 Jan, 2017 14:33
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Any word on the flow of this mission, it's less than 10 days from the suggested date.
Being the first F9 flight from LC39A I'd expect there to be a lot of extra check outs and trouble shooting.
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#51
by
Lee Jay
on 16 Jan, 2017 14:38
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Any word on the flow of this mission, it's less than 10 days from the suggested date.
Being the first F9 flight from LC39A I'd expect there to be a lot of extra check outs and trouble shooting.
There's a fair bit of activity in the LC39 section on L2.
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#52
by
thegreatpeon
on 16 Jan, 2017 16:13
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Any word on the flow of this mission, it's less than 10 days from the suggested date.
Being the first F9 flight from LC39A I'd expect there to be a lot of extra check outs and trouble shooting.
There's a fair bit of activity in the LC39 section on L2.
You're an awful tease...
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#53
by
AS_501
on 16 Jan, 2017 16:25
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Who does Space-X turn to for 39A flame trench clean-up and repairs? Thx.
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#54
by
Jim
on 16 Jan, 2017 17:00
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Who does Space-X turn to for 39A flame trench clean-up and repairs? Thx.
Themselves
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#55
by
Ben the Space Brit
on 17 Jan, 2017 14:22
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It will be great to see 39A in use again!
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#56
by
oldAtlas_Eguy
on 17 Jan, 2017 20:10
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If a hotfire actually takes place Jan 21 the schedule of both EchoStar 23 and the CRS will hold to their dates. The hotfire could end being as much a main stream media news story as the RTF launch.
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#57
by
atsf90east
on 17 Jan, 2017 21:18
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If a hotfire actually takes place Jan 21 the schedule of both EchoStar 23 and the CRS will hold to their dates. The hotfire could end being as much a main stream media news story as the RTF launch.
I remember when they did the hotfire of Columbia before the STS-1 launch in 1981 - my memoryserves me correctly several of the major networks covered it live. Considering the history of LC-39A and the added attention since the Amos-6 anomaly, I would not be surprised if at least one major news outlet breaks into their programming and covers it live.
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#58
by
sfxtd
on 17 Jan, 2017 21:40
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If a hotfire actually takes place Jan 21 the schedule of both EchoStar 23 and the CRS will hold to their dates. The hotfire could end being as much a main stream media news story as the RTF launch.
I remember when they did the hotfire of Columbia before the STS-1 launch in 1981 - my memoryserves me correctly several of the major networks covered it live. Considering the history of LC-39A and the added attention since the Amos-6 anomaly, I would not be surprised if at least one major news outlet breaks into their programming and covers it live.
While the static fire will likely be a news story, I would be very surprised to see it covered live. The launch, perhaps; a test, no.
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#59
by
Johnnyhinbos
on 17 Jan, 2017 22:23
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If a hotfire actually takes place Jan 21 the schedule of both EchoStar 23 and the CRS will hold to their dates. The hotfire could end being as much a main stream media news story as the RTF launch.
I remember when they did the hotfire of Columbia before the STS-1 launch in 1981 - my memoryserves me correctly several of the major networks covered it live. Considering the history of LC-39A and the added attention since the Amos-6 anomaly, I would not be surprised if at least one major news outlet breaks into their programming and covers it live.
While the static fire will likely be a news story, I would be very surprised to see it covered live. The launch, perhaps; a test, no.
perhaps, but I could all but guarantee USLaunchReport will be recording it...