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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #320 on: 08/28/2016 02:45 pm »
Madison.com: This Space Start-Up [Vector Space] Just Landed Its First Big Customer
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For example, Iceye will actually send up its prototype satellite in 2017, hitching a ride aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 carrying larger cargo. But to fit itself aboard the rocket, Iceye had to change the satellite's "configuration." In contrast, Vector is working with Iceye to enable the configuration it really wants. That flexibility helped to convince Iceye to give Vector the bulk of its business.

No idea what flight this secondary payload would be on, maybe Sun Synch Express?  Supposed to be sometime 2nd half 2017.

(2 weeks to WSBW in Paris, hopefully we'll get some more SpaceX manifest information then.)

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #321 on: 08/28/2016 05:17 pm »
Madison.com: This Space Start-Up [Vector Space] Just Landed Its First Big Customer
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For example, Iceye will actually send up its prototype satellite in 2017, hitching a ride aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 carrying larger cargo. But to fit itself aboard the rocket, Iceye had to change the satellite's "configuration." In contrast, Vector is working with Iceye to enable the configuration it really wants. That flexibility helped to convince Iceye to give Vector the bulk of its business.

No idea what flight this secondary payload would be on, maybe Sun Synch Express?  Supposed to be sometime 2nd half 2017.

(2 weeks to WSBW in Paris, hopefully we'll get some more SpaceX manifest information then.)

ICEYE First Generation is a custom microsat. York Space Systems has an initial contract with ICEYE to provide 10 of their S-Class platforms, which have a mass of 65 kg and can support 85 kg payload. It is going to be interesting, how they will launch this on Vector launch vehicles. There are still unannounced payloads on the Sun Sync Express flight at this time.
http://iceye.fi/
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/iceye.htm
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #322 on: 08/28/2016 06:16 pm »
Let me get this straight -- Iceye wants to fly cubesats, but they don't want to fly them in a relatively standard cubesat launch configuration?

If that's the case, then yeah, I guess they need to find an ultra-cheap dedicated smallsat launcher like Vector's, because I bet none of the current launch service providers will fly cubesats in anything much different than what fits in their standard cubesat deployment systems.  Unless the customer wants to pay for the development and construction of a custom launch-and-deployment cradle...
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #323 on: 08/28/2016 06:29 pm »
Let me get this straight -- Iceye wants to fly cubesats, but they don't want to fly them in a relatively standard cubesat launch configuration?

If that's the case, then yeah, I guess they need to find an ultra-cheap dedicated smallsat launcher like Vector's, because I bet none of the current launch service providers will fly cubesats in anything much different than what fits in their standard cubesat deployment systems.  Unless the customer wants to pay for the development and construction of a custom launch-and-deployment cradle...
see my edited post above.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #324 on: 08/30/2016 07:55 am »
According to
Quote from: Los Angeles Times

SES’ satellite will launch on a first-stage booster that landed in April after delivering supplies to the International Space Station.


this

2016-10     F9           OCISLY      SES-10 [12]                   GTO  5300    LC40

schould be changed to


2016-10     F9(23)       OCISLY      SES-10 [12]                   GTO  5300    LC40

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #325 on: 08/30/2016 10:18 am »
We'll likely have to revise this "BOOST(Core)" numbering or things will be confusing. According to the latest discussion on stage numbering this will be flight F9-003X, core B1021 (with X=2 if it follows the current manifest)...



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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #326 on: 08/30/2016 02:16 pm »
SES-10 reflight noted!!

The notation, discussed at great length in the prior thread, will be (23-1), for "Core 23 First Reflight".  Not very negotiable.

We will be revisiting core notation when Falcon Heavy arrives -- we can reconsider at that point.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #327 on: 08/30/2016 05:53 pm »
SES-10 reflight noted!!

The notation, discussed at great length in the prior thread, will be (23-1), for "Core 23 First Reflight".  Not very negotiable.

We will be revisiting core notation when Falcon Heavy arrives -- we can reconsider at that point.

Well the first landed cores are only going to be used for testing at this point to gain confidence in reflight before allowing a paying customer fly on one.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #328 on: 08/30/2016 06:30 pm »
Spaceflight Now: SES agrees to launch satellite on ‘flight-proven’ Falcon 9 rocket
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Intelsat, one of the world’s largest geostationary satellite operators alongside SES, has one launch reserved on a newly-built Falcon 9 rocket in the first quarter of 2017, when the Intelsat 35e satellite will launch from Cape Canaveral.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #329 on: 08/31/2016 04:53 pm »
FH inaugural flight back on for Q4...
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SpaceX spokesperson John Taylor who informed us that the Falcon Heavy is currently slated to take to the skies later this fall.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/spacex-still-eyeing-fall-launch-maiden-flight-falcon-heavy/
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #331 on: 08/31/2016 05:31 pm »
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/509we2/spacex_signs_first_customer_for_launch_of_a/d72xtx7
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CRS-10 is launching in 2017 now.

Comment is a good start, but we will wait for a stronger confirmation before changing the manifest.  Thanks for the link!!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #332 on: 08/31/2016 07:40 pm »
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/509we2/spacex_signs_first_customer_for_launch_of_a/d72xtx7
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CRS-10 is launching in 2017 now.

Several managers on the team for one major SpX-10 payload said just yesterday that the SpX-10 launch was still scheduled for November 11th with the potential to move forward or back by "around a week or so".

The delay to 2017 is either untrue or really breaking news not yet disseminated within NASA.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #333 on: 08/31/2016 07:59 pm »
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/509we2/spacex_signs_first_customer_for_launch_of_a/d72xtx7
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CRS-10 is launching in 2017 now.

Several managers on the team for one major SpX-10 payload said just yesterday that the SpX-10 launch was still scheduled for November 11th with the potential to move forward or back by "around a week or so".

The delay to 2017 is either untrue or really breaking news not yet disseminated within NASA.
Seems like a good test of the credibility of Echologic... ;)
He/she does seem to appear well informed, or at least acting like it.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #334 on: 08/31/2016 08:08 pm »
FH inaugural flight back on for Q4...
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SpaceX spokesperson John Taylor who informed us that the Falcon Heavy is currently slated to take to the skies later this fall.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/spacex-still-eyeing-fall-launch-maiden-flight-falcon-heavy/
It was never off. (For the record.)

...still, the smart money is on a 2017 launch. But 2016 is not and has not been ruled out.

It's funny/annoying how rumor/speculation become established "fact" only to be later disproved. (EDIT: That came off snarkier than I intended.)
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #335 on: 08/31/2016 08:25 pm »
... and that's plenty of discussion on FH launch date for now (at least in this thread, feel free to continue in the FH thread, or start a poll or something).  Right now we really don't know when it will launch.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #336 on: 09/01/2016 02:01 pm »
FH inaugural flight back on for Q4...
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SpaceX spokesperson John Taylor who informed us that the Falcon Heavy is currently slated to take to the skies later this fall.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/spacex-still-eyeing-fall-launch-maiden-flight-falcon-heavy/
It was never off. (For the record.)

...still, the smart money is on a 2017 launch. But 2016 is not and has not been ruled out.

It's funny/annoying how rumor/speculation become established "fact" only to be later disproved. (EDIT: That came off snarkier than I intended.)

For the record, the manifest has not budged on FH dates -- the quorum here still sees past the fog!

Thanks, all!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #337 on: 09/01/2016 04:42 pm »
FH inaugural flight back on for Q4...
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SpaceX spokesperson John Taylor who informed us that the Falcon Heavy is currently slated to take to the skies later this fall.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/spacex-still-eyeing-fall-launch-maiden-flight-falcon-heavy/
It was never off. (For the record.)

...still, the smart money is on a 2017 launch. But 2016 is not and has not been ruled out.

It's funny/annoying how rumor/speculation become established "fact" only to be later disproved. (EDIT: That came off snarkier than I intended.)

For the record, the manifest has not budged on FH dates -- the quorum here still sees past the fog!

Thanks, all!

Today's LOV will bump everything to the right at least a few months, including Heavy.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #338 on: 09/01/2016 05:53 pm »
This will also possibly force SpaceX to move all F9 launch ops to 39A for the time being, if they want to keep things rolling.  If it was a GSE problem at the launch pad, once analysis is complete fixes can be made to Vandenberg and 39A before they can rebuild the damaged pad.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #339 on: 09/01/2016 05:56 pm »
For now, marked everything from LC40 to TBD since there clearly was damage.  No other changes forthcoming without the usual official and solid linked information.

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