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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #900 on: 02/17/2019 09:03 pm »
(fan) I think you should get some props for that. Especially in this case, given the reputation that Mr. Cantrell has.
But you're still a cynic.

 ;D He's doing better than XCOR!

Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #901 on: 02/18/2019 09:22 pm »
It's funny how people think of me as a cynic but I soooo reserve judgement of small outfits like this, more than they deserve I think  ;D It just seems fair. If you have a billionaire backer and you can't get anything done I'm going to be much more critical.

(fan) I think you should get some props for that. Especially in this case, given the reputation that Mr. Cantrell has.
But you're still a cynic.

And what reputation is that?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #902 on: 02/20/2019 06:24 am »
https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/1098067856716029952

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Vector R coming together with final bonding operations.  Some more equipment to be mounted and tested  then stage level static fire testing @vectorspacesys ATS

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #903 on: 02/21/2019 06:06 pm »
https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/1098067856716029952

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Vector R coming together with final bonding operations.  Some more equipment to be mounted and tested  then stage level static fire testing @vectorspacesys ATS

What is the green cylinder of the last photo?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #904 on: 02/21/2019 09:47 pm »
What is the green cylinder of the last photo?

Green is usually used for oxygen, so they could be gox bottles for their igniters.
I tried it at home

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #905 on: 02/24/2019 04:25 pm »
(fan) I think you should get some props for that. Especially in this case, given the reputation that Mr. Cantrell has.
But you're still a cynic.

 ;D He's doing better than XCOR!
Depends.

Vector have lasted 3 years and are trying to make a TSTO ELV, just like 99% of their competitors.

That's not exactly a paradigm shift in launch operations or mfg.

Let's see if they can last as long as XCOR did.
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #906 on: 02/24/2019 06:23 pm »
Oh dear.

Jimmy (personally) and Vector Launch, Inc. (as a corporation) are suing Space Vector Corporation for a trademark issue:

Cantrell et al v. Space Vector Corporation
Plaintiff:    Jim Cantrell and Vector Launch, Inc.
Defendant:    Space Vector Corporation
Case Number:    3:2019cv00795
Filed:    February 13, 2019
Court:    US District Court for the Northern District of California
Nature of Suit:    Trademark
Cause of Action:    15:1125
Jury Demanded By:    Plaintiff

(source: https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2019cv00795/338314)

Now it is all a bit confusing but it seems to the issue goes back to Jimmy and/or Vector filing for "Vector Space" in 2016, and Space Vector Corp objecting:-
 
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/pdf?caseId=87187844&docIndex=2&searchprefix=sn#docIndex=2

Space Vector Corp. has been in business since 1969:
 
http://www.spacevector.com/CMS/about-us/about-space-vector-corporation

Jimmy and Vector Launch, Inc. own a bunch of "Vector-esque" trademarks:-

https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/cantrell-james-3326769/
https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/vector-launch-inc-3375927/

After Vector Space filed for the "Vector Space" trademark, Space Vector Corp. filed for a new trademark in Sept. 2016, claiming first use from 1969:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn87187844&docId=ROA20170718173616#docIndex=3&page=1

There is a lot of detail in the various USPTO filings e.g.:

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87187844&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch

Some salty language in the various filings e.g.

"Linguistical smoke and mirrors are central to Mr. Cantrell’s arguments."

This one has a copy of the lawsuit and lots of exhibits attached:-

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/pdf?caseId=87187844&docIndex=0&searchprefix=sn#docIndex=0

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #907 on: 02/24/2019 11:22 pm »
(fan) ...  given the reputation that Mr. Cantrell has.
But you're still a cynic.

And what reputation is that?

Oh dear.

Some salty language in the various filings e.g.

"Linguistical smoke and mirrors are central to Mr. Cantrell’s arguments."
[1]

That one.

1 - Some stuff omitted.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #908 on: 02/26/2019 06:25 am »
https://twitter.com/vectorspacesys/status/1100220039188307969

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Block 1001 stage 1 preliminary integration is now complete. Coming up next is a functional checkout before launch. (Completed stage 2 shown as well) #NewSpaceRace

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #910 on: 03/08/2019 10:42 pm »
It is interesting how unique the appearance of each of the 3 engines is. Did they experiment with different winding techniques? But it does suggest "hand made" touches rather then an assembly line production. (which is not surprising for the first few engines)
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #911 on: 03/21/2019 02:00 pm »
From SpaceX to Vector: Jim Cantrell and the Private Space Industry

Building Tomorrow Podcast – 50 min 41 sec – Mar 21, 2019 – Episode 39 of 39

https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/building-tomorrow/spacex-vector-jim-cantrell-private-space-industry

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #912 on: 03/22/2019 05:32 am »
https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/1108953139636400128

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Vector-R about ready to move to our test site in #Arizona where we will put the vehicle on the vertical test stand and fire the complete stage.  This will be a major milestone @vectorspacesys as a prelude to its flight later this year.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #913 on: 03/22/2019 11:53 pm »
(fan) ...  given the reputation that Mr. Cantrell has.
But you're still a cynic.

And what reputation is that?

Oh dear.

Some salty language in the various filings e.g.

"Linguistical smoke and mirrors are central to Mr. Cantrell’s arguments."
[1]

That one.

1 - Some stuff omitted.

Meh. Like pretty much every successful CEO out there.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #914 on: 03/23/2019 01:13 am »
New article about Vector's satellite division, GalacticSky.

Press Release: Vector's GalacticSky GSky-1 Satellite Developed with USC's Space Engineering Research Center Ready for Launch Later This Year
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SAN JOSE, Calif., March 22, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Vector, the space access company, today announced its GalacticSky division, which has been in stealth mode since 2016. Led by veterans from VMWare and Citrix, as well as satellite innovators, GalacticSky has achieved a major milestone on its path to launch its first GalacticSky software-defined satellite, GSky-1. GSky-1 successfully completed integration at the University of Southern California's Space Engineering Research Center (SERC) at the Information Sciences Institute (ISI) and will validate GalacticSky's mission to enable innovators to easily and effectively deploy space application technology in space.

Developed in its Silicon Valley office, and utilizing Vector's patented software-defined satellite technology, developers will no longer be required to build and pay for their own satellites. Instead, they can create an application and host it on an existing satellite or across an ad-hoc constellation made up of satellites all within the GalacticSky ecosystem. GalacticSky will provide future digital innovators the autonomy to develop and test applications in space.

"GalacticSky was created with the goal to bring the promise of space-based technologies to a much larger pool of entrepreneurs who don't need to be space experts to build and deploy their ideas," said Shaun Coleman, co-founder, chief sales and marketing officer at Vector & SVP/GM GalacticSky. "By creating a space-grade cloud computing platform in space, GalacticSky ultimately fulfils Vector's mission of extending access to space and the team at USC is a great partner to support us in our endeavor."

Led by Professor David Barnhart, former DARPA program manager, USC astronautical engineering research professor and director of SERC, the primary mission of this microsatellite is to serve as an on-orbit testbed for GalacticSky and three advanced technology payloads. Following its launch, the satellite will be controlled remotely by Vector and monitored by the SERC research team from a ground antenna at the USC campus and from SERC in Marina del Rey. The primary mission is scheduled to be completed within 90 days once launched, but the satellite will continue to operate and provide system performance data for several years.

"Joining forces with Vector on the GalacticSky satellite mission was an overall great experience for the USC Space Engineering Research Center team," said USC Research Professor David Barnhart, Director of the Space Engineering Research Center (SERC) at USC's Information Sciences Institute (ISI). "Working with industry experts in this environment allows direct transition from theory to practice, within budget and schedule constraints not typically included in normal schedules."

GSky-1 hosts the following advanced technology payloads for NASA and the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) that will provide independent data to characterize the harsh environment and operational performance of GalacticSky:

CrossTrac Precision Timing Board (PTB) - Combines the short-term precision of an atomic clock with the long-term stability of a GPS receiver to provide users with a programmable precision time reference. The test data from PTB ground and flight demonstrations have been purchased by NASA.
Cateni Processor/Sensor Flight Board (PSFB) - Integrates advanced command and data processing components with ethernet interfaces for IP based communications between the vehicle and payloads, two Teledyne radiation dosimeters (one shielded by VSRS and the other exposed to space), and integrated GPS with the groundbreaking MEMs integrated 6-axis MotionTracking device that combines a 3-axis gyroscope, 3-axis accelerometer, and a Digital Motion Processor.
TUI Versatile Structural Radiation Shielding (VSRS) - VSRS is a novel, 3D-printed radiation shielding technology developed by Tethers Unlimited under Air Force Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) funding to provide a lightweight, customizable, and cost-effective solution to enable commercial off the shelf (COTS) electronics to operate reliably in the space radiation environment.
"There is no substitute for operating in space and to that end our challenge was to get GalacticSky on orbit as soon as possible. Working with USC's SERC team at ISI was a natural fit since they had a mission proven satellite in need of a payload, and GalacticSky needed a satellite to integrate with," said Dr. Darren Garber, president of Vector Government Systems. "The integrated Vector and SERC team successfully delivered GSky-1 on time and on budget within six months. Now GalacticSky is ready to meet our users' needs, and with SERC, we're able to move as fast as our customers."

Through GalacticSky, Vector is adding a smart cloud-based layer to microsatellites, creating a truly software-defined-satellite, allowing satellites to dynamically change their missions on orbit as well as provide innovators a cost-effective way to deploy technology in space without the need to build a satellite. GalacticSky utilizes modern datacenter computing in space and a virtualization hypervisor powered by Citrix® to maximize memory, on-board processing, and network bandwidth. With these features, data can now undergo significant processing and analysis in space thus providing key information to users, saving time, bandwidth, and money. To learn more about Vector's GalacticSky platform, please visit: https://www.vector-launch.com

About Vector
Vector is connecting commercial organizations, governments, and space innovators with an anywhere, anytime launch service and space-grade cloud-computing platform, GalacticSky. With the goal of extending access to space and transforming the space economy, Vector's unique remote launch technology disrupts the current status quo of launch frequency from fewer than 20 launches per year to hundreds. GalacticSky further transforms the space segment from its current hardware centric state to a simpler software development proposition with software-defined satellites. Utilizing virtualization software, Vector will have the ability to extend satellite capabilities by processing and computing data in space. Vector is proud to design, build and launch its vehicles and enabling platforms in the United States of America. For more information, please visit http://www.vector-launch.com

About USC Viterbi Space Engineering
USC Viterbi has a strong legacy of innovation in space engineering and exploration. USC Viterbi School of Engineering is one of a very small group of top schools with distinct astronautical degree programs. To date, school researchers have created innovations in spacecraft propulsion, space science, space environment, space communications, satellites and materials. Astronaut Neil Armstrong was a USC Viterbi alumnus, and the school has a dedicated Space Engineering Research Center at the USC Information Sciences Institute co-managed with Viterbi's Department of Astronautical Engineering.  The school maintains strong connections with pioneering space organizations and alumni who design and build rockets and space launchers, communications and direct broadcasting satellites, navigational systems, crewed space vehicles and planetary probes.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #915 on: 03/23/2019 03:27 pm »
From SpaceX to Vector: Jim Cantrell and the Private Space Industry

Building Tomorrow Podcast – 50 min 41 sec – Mar 21, 2019 – Episode 39 of 39

https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/building-tomorrow/spacex-vector-jim-cantrell-private-space-industry

Not sure if anybody listedn to this but it contains some super interesting admissions:

Around 20m00-21m00 he is stating that Vector has had a tough week "in a time where we have to make this product work, facing time pressure and financial pressure...had to make a lot of tough choices" - and then goes on to possibly allude that they had to make some changes: "you need to elevate yourself above your self-interest, above your emotions and do what's in the best interests of the company... I don't mean that in the Orwellian sense, there are 160 employees, 500-600 people are affected by decisions... we have $100m in investment come in ... not everybody remembers those things, sometimes our egos get in the way... when we are dealing with purely technical things it is a lot easier than the human side". Stand by for some senior staff changes...

Around 22m00 he is talking about delays and saying the shutdown closed down their license process, that made them "delay launches" and then they had some safety system late that hit the availability of the launch site. Probably quite convenient that the govt. helped out like that.

May/June for suborbital, August/Sept for orbital.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #916 on: 03/23/2019 03:50 pm »
Dates announced for B0.003 test flight

Announcement date => Target date

July 30, 2018 => end August, 2018  (+1 month)
Sep 19, 2018 => Sep 21, 2018  (+2 days)
Oct 30, 2018 => Nov 2018  ("in a few weeks")
Dec 5, 2018 => mid Jan, 2019  (+6 weeks)
Feb 6, 2019 => May 2019  (+3 months)

Next announcement to come in June 2019.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #917 on: 03/23/2019 04:07 pm »
Wasn’t sure if personnel change vs technical, hard to tell. Hopefully not affecting the first launch article!

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