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Offline whatever11235

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #700 on: 12/10/2017 10:45 pm »
So first orbital launch july 2018. Factory being done early 2019, and then 100-400 launches a year. Cantrell time might be worse than Elon time.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #701 on: 12/12/2017 10:01 am »
So first orbital launch july 2018. Factory being done early 2019, and then 100-400 launches a year. Cantrell time might be worse than Elon time.
He also has a measurement distortion field where a 2-3km altitude = suborbital. Technically that is true, in the same way a paper airplane is suborbital.

It just occurred to me that the reason Cantrell is pushing these dates is that he is deliberately trying to beat Rocket Lab and Virgin Orbit to orbit. If those guys have failures (which is always possible) he will use anything even close to orbit as a claim that Vector were first.

SpaceGhost may be right that there are some investor egos driving this.
« Last Edit: 12/13/2017 07:17 am by ringsider »

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #702 on: 12/12/2017 11:45 am »
Someone could really just ask him that if first orbital launch is July of 2018, to confirm they’ve surely already submitted an FAA launch license application that fully describes the launch system design and associated range safety or autonomous flight termination systems to be used. Or they could ask Wallops & Camden.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #703 on: 12/12/2017 04:28 pm »
So first orbital launch july 2018. Factory being done early 2019, and then 100-400 launches a year. Cantrell time might be worse than Elon time.
He also has a measurement distortion field where a 2-3km altitude = suborbital. Technically that is true, in the same way a paper airplane is suborbital.

It just occurred to me that the reason Cantrell is pushing these dates is that he is deliberately trying to beat Rocket Lab and Virgin Orbit to orbit. If those guys have failures (which is always possible) he will use anything even close to orbit as a claim that Vector were first.

SpaceGhost may be right that there are some investor egoes driving this.

Is his plan to get to orbit by not using any guidance, and just launching at an incline like the Japanese Lambda family of rockets? Seems like with the progress they've been making, it's the only option.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #704 on: 12/12/2017 07:33 pm »
Is his plan to get to orbit by not using any guidance, and just launching at an incline like the Japanese Lambda family of rockets? Seems like with the progress they've been making, it's the only option.

The next flight will have thrust vector control, so no.
Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #705 on: 12/15/2017 09:32 am »
If you look closely in the RL livestream (and know who to look for), one of those "investor ego's" is visible. (I've known him since the early 80's. He was one of the ones responsible for getting me into start-ups.)

Are you an investor too?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #706 on: 12/18/2017 01:42 pm »
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Vector and Astro Digital Join Forces for Dedicated Launch
Nanosatellite launch company takes critical next step with announcement of first dedicated customer mission

NEWS PROVIDED BY
Vector
Dec 14, 2017, 12:00 ET
     
TUCSON, Ariz., Dec. 14, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Vector, a nanosatellite launch company comprised of new-space and enterprise software industry veterans from SpaceX, Virgin Galactic, McDonnell Douglas, Boeing, Sea Launch and VMware, today announced that it will join forces with Astro Digital, a leader in real-time satellite imagery data, to conduct a dedicated launch in 2018 featuring one of Astro Digital's satellites for remote sensing applications. Astro Digital plans to engage Vector to launch at least twelve such satellites as part of a larger constellation, with an option to then continue operations at a pace of two to four dedicated satellite launches per year.

"Vector has taken several critical steps over the last ten months to prove we are the leading nanosatellite launch company, including two successful test launches as well as other tests to demonstrate our technology to the market. We have also had great success building partnerships with other leading companies in the aerospace industry, including our first dedicated launch customer, Astro Digital," said Jim Cantrell, CEO and co-founder of Vector. "Astro Digital was looking for a partner who could provide dedicated launch services to ensure their payload enters orbit successfully, and we're looking forward to catering to their unique needs in a way that no other launch provider can."

Astro Digital's Landmapper-HD satellite will catch a dedicated ride on Vector's Vector-R launch vehicle in 2018. Headquartered at NASA Ames Research Park in California, Astro Digital's mission is to monitor the whole Earth, every day, with the highest quality data possible from a constellation of small satellites so companies monitor, measure, and map change.

Astro Digital will have Landmapper satellites in orbit by the end of 2017 and an operational constellation of 30 multi-spectral imaging satellites by the end of 2019 to monitor the globe multiple times per day. With images in both high and moderate definition, Astro Digital's satellites allow for quick analysis and intelligence gathering. Vector will continue to support Astro Digital's goal by providing dedicated launch services for their small satellites at a launch rate and cost that other competitors are unable to match.     

"Having the opportunity to put a payload on Vector's recent sub-orbital launch and being able to test our hardware under real-life conditions really solidified our decision to join forces," said Chris Biddy, CEO and co-founder of Astro Digital. "Launches continue to be one of the biggest risk factors for our business, but partnering for a dedicated launch with Vector means we set the orbit and we set the launch date, which effectively lowers our risk and cost."

After securing a $21M Series A round led by Sequoia Capital earlier this year, Vector has accelerated its flight test series and initiated pathfinding operations at several proposed launch sites. In August, the company completed a successful commercial sub-orbital mission at Spaceport Camden in Georgia and more recently announced that it will conduct at least three orbital launches from Virginia Spaceport's Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport over the next two years. Vector recently opened its Silicon Valley headquarters in San Jose and will break ground on its launch vehicle manufacturing facility in Pima County, Ariz. next year.

About Vector

Founded by the original founding team of SpaceX, Vector is a disruptive company that connects space startups and innovators with dedicated, affordable and reliable launch services, enabling platforms and vehicles to access space efficiently and in a more optimized way than ever before possible. For more information, visit http://www.vectorspacesystems.com/

About Astro Digital

Astro Digital is enabling big data analytics from space. We monitor Earth from space with our constellation of multi-spectral Landmapper satellites and a dedicated software platform for imagery analysis and distribution.  With a team of engineers, developers and data scientists based on NASA's Moffett Field, we're monitoring commercially active land use to model global change and analyze local activity for a variety of business needs. For more information, visit: www.astrodigital.com

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vector-and-astro-digital-join-forces-for-dedicated-launch-300571117.html

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #707 on: 12/22/2017 03:34 pm »
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On the heels of our announcement with @NxsEarth partnership with @vectorspacesys #GalacticSky we have released the first design images of our Block 0 satellite. Stay tuned !

https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/944242170071990272

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #708 on: 12/22/2017 05:45 pm »
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On the heels of our announcement with @NxsEarth partnership with @vectorspacesys #GalacticSky we have released the first design images of our Block 0 satellite. Stay tuned !

https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/944242170071990272
pictures of other version showing fully deployed state:
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1: First look — rendering of a prototype GalacticSky Software Defined Satellite. Dimensions; dish 1/2 meter, center chassis and panel segments are 15 x 30 inches (roughly the size of a mini-tower desktop computer) Coming soon... @NxsEarth
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #709 on: 12/31/2017 12:35 am »

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #710 on: 12/31/2017 07:18 am »
Now this is interesting, satellite based block chain currency:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vector-nexus-join-space-race-plans-satellite-based-blockchain-network/
Not even going to click the link because I am sure it is Cantrell's son involved.
« Last Edit: 12/31/2017 07:19 am by ringsider »

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #711 on: 12/31/2017 12:46 pm »
Now this is interesting, satellite based block chain currency:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vector-nexus-join-space-race-plans-satellite-based-blockchain-network/

Altcoin owner Colin Cantrell teaming up with Jim Cantrell, sprinkle everything with some "blockchain", hottest buzzword today.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #712 on: 12/31/2017 12:54 pm »
Now this is interesting, satellite based block chain currency:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vector-nexus-join-space-race-plans-satellite-based-blockchain-network/

There was already an earlier project with satellite based blockchain storage called BitSat by a company called Dunvegan Space Systems. But this appears to have been put on hold.

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/bitsat.htm

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #713 on: 01/01/2018 05:03 pm »
Now this is interesting, satellite based block chain currency:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vector-nexus-join-space-race-plans-satellite-based-blockchain-network/
Not even going to click the link because I am sure it is Cantrell's son involved.
Is there something about him that puts you off?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #714 on: 01/01/2018 07:10 pm »
Now this is interesting, satellite based block chain currency:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/vector-nexus-join-space-race-plans-satellite-based-blockchain-network/
Not even going to click the link because I am sure it is Cantrell's son involved.
Is there something about him that puts you off?
Apart from it being yet another connection between Vector and a venture where the CEO has a direct personal interest?
« Last Edit: 01/01/2018 07:10 pm by ringsider »

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #715 on: 01/01/2018 07:37 pm »


Apart from it being yet another connection between Vector and a venture where the CEO has a direct personal interest?

Do you have similar opposition to SpaceX's constellation or feel this is in particular unfairly funneling VC funds to family side projects?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #717 on: 01/02/2018 12:22 pm »
Warning - very reddit.  ::)
Fluffy Pony pretends to be a nobody while Colin Cantrell pitches him his Nexus shitcoin at the TNABC

From that thread  ;D

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Colin Cantrell is like Charlie from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia


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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #718 on: 01/02/2018 03:45 pm »


Apart from it being yet another connection between Vector and a venture where the CEO has a direct personal interest?

Do you have similar opposition to SpaceX's constellation or feel this is in particular unfairly funneling VC funds to family side projects?
Musk built SpaceX with his own money, and until recently there was no crossing of interests between the various companies he owns. The move to satellites is natural.

Jim Cantrell took a bunch of investor cash and is a board advisor to two of his anchor clients (Iceye and York) as well as being the key shareholder at Vector. And now his son is partnering somehow.

In a normal business this would be very difficult to justify.

I would not use more pejorative words but it's obvious they are looking to IPO and cash out as soon as the market will let them.
« Last Edit: 01/02/2018 03:47 pm by ringsider »

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #719 on: 01/02/2018 03:47 pm »
Warning - very reddit.  ::)
Fluffy Pony pretends to be a nobody while Colin Cantrell pitches him his Nexus shitcoin at the TNABC

Gave that a full listen.
Fully explains and justifies the skepticism on this venture.

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