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Offline Steven Pietrobon

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #280 on: 05/28/2017 06:41 am »
Promise of livestreamed launches in the future

https://twitter.com/vectorspacesys/status/867952998781140994

That's not what the tweet said.

"Vector communication trailer being built as we speak; live video streams of launches in the near future? Stay tuned..."

It would be awesome if Vector does do a livestream though.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #281 on: 05/31/2017 04:14 pm »
Here's a video I've not seen:

It's another promo video by Vector.
It looks like that video has been removed and re-uploaded, but without the rapid descent shot at the end.

I tried it at home

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #282 on: 06/01/2017 08:07 pm »
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Successful test today towards a pyro-free vehicle 2nd stage motor & new spark igniter developed w/@UAHuntsville sponsored by @NASA_Marshall

https://twitter.com/vectorspacesys/status/870365471857532928

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #283 on: 06/02/2017 06:34 pm »
Orion - the first and only manned not-too-deep-space craft

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #284 on: 06/03/2017 07:45 am »
Video attached. Some people, like myself, can't watch the video directly.
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #285 on: 06/07/2017 06:51 pm »
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This is the skeleton of a Vector-R rocket being built by @vectorspacesys right here in Tucson. Should be launched into sub-orbit next month!

https://twitter.com/johnpatrickkvoa/status/872518771960926208

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #286 on: 06/07/2017 08:06 pm »
Just fiddling with some numbers on Vector-R.

One of the payload options in the minimal LSG is 50kg to 200km LEO.

Is that a useful option? This says you get a fifth of a day in orbit before re-entry:-

http://www.lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/


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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #287 on: 06/07/2017 08:14 pm »
Just fiddling with some numbers on Vector-R.

One of the payload options in the minimal LSG is 50kg to 200km LEO.

Is that a useful option? This says you get a fifth of a day in orbit before re-entry:-

http://www.lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/


Vector-R Block-0.x is being used for early Sub-orbital launches.
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http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/vector-1.htm

First launch tests involve low altitude flights of a full size aluminium air-frame called Vector-R Block 0.1 with the technology of the Garvey/Vector P19 rocket and only one engine.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #288 on: 06/07/2017 08:16 pm »
Just fiddling with some numbers on Vector-R.

One of the payload options in the minimal LSG is 50kg to 200km LEO.

Is that a useful option? This says you get a fifth of a day in orbit before re-entry:-

http://www.lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/

What settings did you use for the surface area of the sat? Cubesats are 10x10x10cm, so I used a surface area of 0.01m^2(0.1m * 0.1m) and got reentry after 55 days at that altitude.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #289 on: 06/07/2017 09:47 pm »
Just fiddling with some numbers on Vector-R.

One of the payload options in the minimal LSG is 50kg to 200km LEO.

Is that a useful option? This says you get a fifth of a day in orbit before re-entry:-

http://www.lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/

What settings did you use for the surface area of the sat? Cubesats are 10x10x10cm, so I used a surface area of 0.01m^2(0.1m * 0.1m) and got reentry after 55 days at that altitude.

I used 0.5-1.0m because for 50kg it is not 10x10x10cm. Granted an individual sat in a 50kg payload might be.

I guess I was just wondering if those orbits are practical for commercial use or mainly demo/academic options.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #290 on: 06/10/2017 06:41 am »
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More Vector-R Block 0 launchers under construction for @vectorspacesys - stay tuned ! #space

https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell/status/873358603624734720

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #291 on: 06/10/2017 07:59 am »
So... more just like the last test? (Based on the image which suggest a flying mockup structure like the last launch) I thought they were going to move ahead with the actual vehicle now.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #292 on: 06/11/2017 10:00 am »
Can someone explain to me how this rocket is supposed to work!  A pressure fed nozzle? . Is there a turbopump into the combustion chamber? It cannot be  a hybrid solid rocket with three Nozzles.
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #293 on: 06/11/2017 03:52 pm »
Can someone explain to me how this rocket is supposed to work!  A pressure fed nozzle? . Is there a turbopump into the combustion chamber? It cannot be  a hybrid solid rocket with three Nozzles.
As far as I can read it is intended to be pressure fed, no mention of a turbopump that I have seen. Definitely not a hybrid.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #294 on: 06/11/2017 10:09 pm »
If you're asking if a pressure fed rocket to reach space, the answer is yes. I don't think it's been done, but it's possible.
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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #295 on: 06/11/2017 11:16 pm »
The first French rockets to reach orbit were pressure fed, though the pressure was produced by gas generators rather than by compressed-gas reservoirs.

Vector is autogenously pressurized.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #296 on: 06/12/2017 03:00 am »
The first French rockets to reach orbit were pressure fed, though the pressure was produced by gas generators rather than by compressed-gas reservoirs.

Vector is autogenously pressurized.

A gas generator is by definition not a pressure fed system. is autogenous something that spontaneously pressurises as you pass it over catalyst?

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #297 on: 06/12/2017 03:22 am »
Autogenous means the fuel has a high enough vapor pressure to self-pressurize. Without some kind of pump, however, that's going to give a relatively low chamber pressure in the engine, and thus a low ISP.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #298 on: 06/13/2017 08:15 am »
The first French rockets to reach orbit were pressure fed, though the pressure was produced by gas generators rather than by compressed-gas reservoirs.

A gas generator is by definition not a pressure fed system.

Perhaps you're referring to the (bi-propellant) gas-generator pumping cycle used by many engines, such as the Merlin.  That is not, I would agree, an example of pressure feed.  The French Diamant rockets were different: gas generators were used not to drive turbo pumps, but to pressurize propellant tanks.

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Re: Vector Space Systems
« Reply #299 on: 06/13/2017 09:09 am »
Didn't all the Diamants have solid stages too?
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