Maybe it is the other way around, maybe it is that the old folks are the ones that have more drive (pun intended), from the Atomic age, the Space age, the Robot and AI age when nothing could stop their dreams, cars looked like rockets and rockets were going to the Moon instead of over and over to LEO as they have been doing for decades
I think you're on to something with this hypothesis, but there's little more to say on the topic that isn't wildly off the topic of EM Drive. Never the less, I am not even slightly surprised that so many in my generation are unwilling to have hope for things like EM drive.
I wish I had the courage to study physics in college like I wanted to. lack of faith in myself has prevented me from doing so many things up to this point in my life. It is disheartening how our society has turned more and more away from exploration, and more towards comfort. As my username suggests, I dream of the future. I dream of traveling the stars exploring this universe. and I hope that the years to come see the kind of advances in science that inspire a new generation of explorers and dreamers and innovators with the desire and drive to push the bounds of what is known and step into a new world of discovery.
As a member of the up-and-coming Generation I want to thank those of you who have been around the block and laid the foundation for your children and grandchildren to reach into the unknown. That said... we still need some help, so I expect you all to stick around for a while and continue to motivate my sorry generation to acts that can hopefully make you proud.You have certainly inspired me to pursue my interest in physics beyond regret of the past.
Dreamer

Maybe it is the other way around, maybe it is that the old folks are the ones that have more drive (pun intended), from the Atomic age, the Space age, the Robot and AI age when nothing could stop their dreams, cars looked like rockets and rockets were going to the Moon instead of over and over to LEO as they have been doing for decades
I think you're on to something with this hypothesis, but there's little more to say on the topic that isn't wildly off the topic of EM Drive. Never the less, I am not even slightly surprised that so many in my generation are unwilling to have hope for things like EM drive.
I wish I had the courage to study physics in college like I wanted to. lack of faith in myself has prevented me from doing so many things up to this point in my life. It is disheartening how our society has turned more and more away from exploration, and more towards comfort. As my username suggests, I dream of the future. I dream of traveling the stars exploring this universe. and I hope that the years to come see the kind of advances in science that inspire a new generation of explorers and dreamers and innovators with the desire and drive to push the bounds of what is known and step into a new world of discovery.
As a member of the up-and-coming Generation I want to thank those of you who have been around the block and laid the foundation for your children and grandchildren to reach into the unknown. That said... we still need some help, so I expect you all to stick around for a while and continue to motivate my sorry generation to acts that can hopefully make you proud.You have certainly inspired me to pursue my interest in physics beyond regret of the past.
DreamerI too have been inspired by the EMDrive discussions to 'go back to school' and learn the physics I didn't get in undergrad (I was computer science and only required 2 semesters of science, in my case chemistry). Over the last 9 months I have 'audited' courses in electromagnetism and quantum mechanics. Here are some I recommend:
National Programme on Technology and Advanced learning from Govt of India: Electro Magnetic Fields - note: very heavy on math
MIT Open Courseware (MIT OCW) 8.01 (classical) 8.02 (electricity & Magnetism) and 8.03 (vibrations & waves) taught by Walter Lewin. These are no longer available from MIT due to allegations against Dr Lewin, but are made available through CC:ATTRIB
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCliSRiiRVQuDfgxI_QN_Fmw/playlists
MIT OCW 8.04 Quantum Mechanics 1 taught by Dr Allan Adams - GENIUS lecturer!!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUl4u3cNGP61-9PEhRognw5vryrSEVLPr
MIT OCW 8.05 QM 2 (just started this one)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUl4u3cNGP60QlYNsy52fctVBOlk-4lYx
I can almost follow the physics discussions at this point
It's coming to you, or being exact to your elementary particles, from all directions. If you could warp the Aether so that it is directing somewhere having no massive particle, it means you created synthetical mass. That is one mechanism which must be taken account if emdrive effect seem to be real. Then the drive would not be em-drive but qg-drive as making use of quantum gravity by artificial gravitating mass.Thanks very much for the explanations. So, with this hypothesis, the Emdevice/QGdevice would manipulate gravitation, to get acceleration ?Yep. That's the hypothesis.
And what is happening to CoE and CoM with this hypothesis ? Does it means that some energy can be gained from the Aether ?No, potential energy can be gained from the other gravitating bodies by reducing space in front of drive with the artificial mass. Of course this is speculative based on that em-radiation as standing transverse electric component gives longitudinal magnetic curved standing wave and maybe it could be similar to normal standing gravitational wave with the spherical gravity field...I wonder why Dr. White never followed up with his Laser interferometer testing?
ShellJust because the results have not been made public, it does not mean that he did not follow up. If one thing became clear from the publicity surrounding the EM Drive is that NASA did not want any talk about NASA working on a warp drive.


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How do I test this asymmetrical mass differential? Ok I build a test bed that keeps all the goodies inside. With a highly sensitive torsional wire and then rotate the entire test bed keeping everything the same.
If this is the case where the drive is warping space I'll not see the effect when it's in the first horizontal position, but it will show up to a greater degree in the vertical as a teeter totter balance beam.
There are a couple other tests I want to run with this configuration but this is the first series.
No more daydreaming this morning. Dr. Rodal, I have more to write on the coaxial cable adding thrust pressures to the frustum in onboard power versus off board supplies but I have some things I have to do first.
Shell


After all this thought and preparation, the experiment became what has been called the most famous failed experiment in history. Instead of providing insight into the properties of the aether, Michelson and Morley's article in the American Journal of Science reported the measurement to be as small as one-fortieth of the expected displacement (Fig. 7), but "since the displacement is proportional to the square of the velocity" they concluded that the measured velocity was "probably less than one-sixth" of the expected velocity of the Earth's motion in orbit and "certainly less than one-fourth." Although this small "velocity" was measured, it was considered far too small to be used as evidence of speed relative to the aether, and it was understood to be within the range of an experimental error that would allow the speed to actually be zero. For instance, Michelson wrote about the "decidedly negative result" in a letter to Lord Rayleigh in August 1887
as Michelson eventually (20 years later) received the first Nobel Prize awarded to a US citizen, "for his optical precision instruments and the spectroscopic and metrological investigations carried out with their aid", an award very much deserved.I'm trying to decide between these two USB spectrum analyzers. Was wondering if someone could weigh in. The Triarchy looks to have more features, but is $530 vs the RF Instruments' SA0314 $330. Is it worth it to go with the Triarchy?
http://www.triarchytech.com/product4G.html
Triarchy also has a $628 bundle that includes a 4-piece near field probe set: http://www.triarchytech.com/productprobe.html
http://rfinstruments.com/SA0314.html
Michelson and Morley's experiment was to verify the aether (and NOT to disprove it). They measured the speed of light in perpendicular directions, in an attempt to detect the relative motion of matter through the stationary luminiferous aether ("aether wind").
Even when they got results that show that there was no aether as they were expecting, they justified their results as the aether behaving differently than originally expected. It took Einstein to be the one that definitely stated that there was no aether. But is that the end of the story ?
One of the greatest experiments ever performed, that Einstein interpreted to revolutionize Physics, was originaly interpreted as a great failure:
Might be the one to try just to give us all another piece of gear to have used.
NSF-1701A Update -
Torsion wire test stand designed, fabricated, tested and ready to go.
NSF-1701A Update -
Torsion wire test stand designed, fabricated, tested and ready to go.
I'm curious how you integrated your laser distance meter. I almost purchased the greatly reduced in price ebay unit you posted a few pages back... but decided to limp along with a laser so I can get the usb spectrum analyzer first.
Been away for a while, has the Nasa paper been released on any way? Is the delay in any way 'good news'? In that they couldn't dismiss results simply at least? How long does typical peer review last?
Been away for a while, has the Nasa paper been released on any way? Is the delay in any way 'good news'? In that they couldn't dismiss results simply at least? How long does typical peer review last?
. Submitting papers for peer-review is something mundane, many researchers have several papers undergoing peer-rewiew simultaneously, since it is commonplace to manage multiple R&D projects. You could be incorrect about your understanding of what you heard...and that's all that I can say.
2) process time could go over a year depending on journal. Also authors may decide to withdraw submission to a given journal if the peer-review process becomes unacceptable and re-submit the paper to another journal.
3) there is no retesting I have heard of while I worked at MIT ASRL, that is practically out of the question. Our Lab had several papers being published, never heard of asking for retesting in the peer-review process. Professors in a PhD thesis committee may ask for retests, Members of an R&D Supervisory Committee may ask for re-tests, Venture Capitalists may ask for retests, but not peer-reviewers for a technical paper, to my knowledge.
The peer-review process usually entails addressing technical issues in the paper write-up, reviewers do not usually ask re-tests as they know that the amount of time for scientific tests would be unacceptable (asking for retesting would be, practically, tantamount to rejection: the paper would have to be re-submtted.).
4) The peer-review process is strictly confidential: both the authors and the peer-reviewers are sworn to secrecy.
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(*) It would be fully understandable that having paper being peer-reviewed for the first time is very meaningful to a first time author. But as an effect on Aerospace, the paper published by Shawyer in Acta Astronautica does not appear to have had a significant effect on the EM Drive perception... What would have a great effect would be:
1) Foremost: to have a spacecraft accelerated by an EM Drive
2) A test that would be universally recognized as definitive proof by the scientific community. This means at this point in time, at the minimum:
a) torsional pendulum
b) powered by batteries, self-integrated in the moving device
c) tested under partial vacuum
since (c) would eliminate thermal convection artifacts and (b) would eliminate electromagnetic Lorentz and momentum forces from power cables (including coaxial cables), thermal and stiffness forces from cables. A Cavendish pendulum would eliminate many artifacts present in other instruments.
Prof. Yang has met all three of the above (a,b, and c) in her recent paper that nulliifies her previous claimed results.
Ultimate acceptance of a technology requires independent replication at different institutional centers, so be prepared for a long haul. Rome wasn't built in a day.
How MOVA Globes Work
The MOVA globes rotate peacefully and silently using only the energy of room light and the force of the earth’s magnetic field.
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1) The peer-review process is strictly confidential: both the authors and the peer-reviewers are sworn to secrecy simply means that if you have a paper undergoing peer-review you are sworn to secrecy as far as anything that a peer-reviewer communicates with you in the process. The secrecy pertains the peer-review process between a particular journal and the authors.