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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2040 on: 08/26/2017 01:17 AM »
So I'm sitting at fishlips, waiting for the orbitalATK Minotaur launch with my four year old.  On the way in, what do I notice but the Go sisters, Searcher and Quest, and a tug whose name I can't read but I'll wager is our friend EIII.  Is this their usual tie up, by fishlips behind the casino ship "victory ii"?

It's dark and I can't see OCISLY, though that's what I'm hoping to spot.  It should be across the way, but before the container cranes right?  Any reason it wouldn't be in port?
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Yes thatís their normal tie up location.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2042 on: 08/26/2017 02:43 AM »
Wow. No west coast love for JTRI apparently.
We had mission prep (presumably); departure; and then an ASDS caught a rocket yesterday, and presumably they are on there way back with said rocket.
And with all the discussion here you'd think this was the ULA ASDS thread.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2043 on: 08/26/2017 05:33 AM »
ULA have ASDSes? I missed a memo, I think.  :)

But yeah, has this gotten so routine that we forget to even say "JRTI left port" ??
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2044 on: 08/26/2017 02:33 PM »
NRC Quest seems to be about 315km from port and I would assume the tug in front of her (BETTY R GAMBARELLA) has an ASDS in tow. At current speed 38 hours to port is what I calculate.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2045 on: 08/26/2017 02:34 PM »
ULA have ASDSes? I missed a memo, I think.  :)

But yeah, has this gotten so routine that we forget to even say "JRTI left port" ??

We're still in the early stages of reusable rockets, but the eventual goal is for this to be so common that we don't comment on daily operations.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2046 on: 08/27/2017 11:29 PM »
So I'm sitting at fishlips, waiting for the orbitalATK Minotaur launch with my four year old.  On the way in, what do I notice but the Go sisters, Searcher and Quest, and a tug whose name I can't read but I'll wager is our friend EIII.  Is this their usual tie up, by fishlips behind the casino ship "victory ii"?

It's dark and I can't see OCISLY, though that's what I'm hoping to spot.  It should be across the way, but before the container cranes right?  Any reason it wouldn't be in port?

I just checked and their survey & inspection certificates and paperwork are all good until July next year at least, so I see no particular reason she'd be out of service.. unless it's time for a hull clean and anti-foul.

It's summer over there, right?  Summer is when hull growth is worst, so if they've towed her away somewhere that's possibly it.  Unless there's other work they wish to do out of the water, I wouldn't think she'd be away more than a week.  :)
   
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2047 on: 09/01/2017 12:31 AM »
I think I did finally locate her (picture attached). Just real hard to see her without lights on the asds and lights blaring next door on a gravel (?) barge they were actively filling.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2048 on: 09/01/2017 03:35 AM »
I think I did finally locate her (picture attached). Just real hard to see her without lights on the asds and lights blaring next door on a gravel (?) barge they were actively filling.

So.. it's been night-time for a week over that way?!?  ???  Man, that eclipse must have been quite something to not provide enough daylight to take photos.
 
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2049 on: 09/01/2017 04:14 AM »
Some people have jobs/kids/spouses/beer drinking habits and stuff that prevent them from camping out at the harbor.

Crazy, I know.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2050 on: 09/01/2017 02:42 PM »
Yeah, I just had one (long) day with my son at Port Canaveral before we had to return to the less-rocket-obsessed portion of our family and their vacation (which has since that day kept me mostly offline in the middle of the Caribbean Sea).  I figured I'd post my pictures/experiences just to help any other similarly crazy asds/go-sister stalkers know what to expect and what to look for.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2051 on: 09/09/2017 11:55 AM »
OCISLY is alongside her usual berth in Port Canaveral, visible on the notorious webcam.

According to MarineTraffic, Go Quest and Go Searcher are tucked up in Green Cove Springs on the St.Johns River, a fair way upstream of Jacksonville. There's also a 'Go America' there, which looks like she's a third 'Go twin'.

Elsbeth III was last reported in Port Canaveral and looks to be tied up pretty much outside the Fishlips restaurant (to the left of the webcam).

Current forecast track for Irma suggests it will get a bit blustery (60 knots or so), but hopefully not problematic.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2052 on: 09/10/2017 03:48 PM »
Elsbeth III has moved from the berth west of the Fishlips restaurant and now *appears* to be berthed in front of OCISLY.


<Wild speculation> IF there is a crew aboard/nearby and IF there is a significant storm surge.. and presumably as Irma heads north, the wind direction will move to push OCISLY towards the dock wall, so it may prove useful to have a tug on hand to move it (her?) if necessary and potentially avoid the worst-case situation where OCISLY ends up on the dock (although I'd have expected the ASDS to have been ballasted before the storm arrived). </Wild speculation>

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2053 on: 09/10/2017 10:17 PM »
Elsbeth III has moved from the berth west of the Fishlips restaurant and now *appears* to be berthed in front of OCISLY.


<Wild speculation> IF there is a crew aboard/nearby and IF there is a significant storm surge.. and presumably as Irma heads north, the wind direction will move to push OCISLY towards the dock wall, so it may prove useful to have a tug on hand to move it (her?) if necessary and potentially avoid the worst-case situation where OCISLY ends up on the dock (although I'd have expected the ASDS to have been ballasted before the storm arrived). </Wild speculation>

You'd have zero control on that barge in this storm, especially with storm surge thrown in.  If OCISLY breaks its moorings, then it is heading where ever the storm dictates; Elsbeth III will be along for the ride.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2054 on: 09/10/2017 11:08 PM »
<Wild speculation> IF there is a crew aboard/nearby and IF there is a significant storm surge.. and presumably as Irma heads north, the wind direction will move to push OCISLY towards the dock wall, so it may prove useful to have a tug on hand to move it (her?) if necessary and potentially avoid the worst-case situation where OCISLY ends up on the dock (although I'd have expected the ASDS to have been ballasted before the storm arrived). </Wild speculation>

When dealing with a hurricane-force winds, towards the dock is good; away from the dock is a much bigger problem entirely.

(It's always nice to know your ship will be somewhere close to where you left it when the storm is over  ;) )
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2055 on: 09/10/2017 11:23 PM »
I expect that if there's a serious storm surge, one tug won't stop ASDS motion, and may well be imperiled itself.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2056 on: 09/10/2017 11:41 PM »
I suspect Elsbeth III is docked in front of OCISLY  because that area is a safe-ish spot. According to AIS and a certain webcam, Victory I is docked behind OCISLY.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2057 on: 09/11/2017 02:18 AM »
I expect that if there's a serious storm surge, one tug won't stop ASDS motion, and may well be imperiled itself.

I suspect Elsbeth III is docked in front of OCISLY  because that area is a safe-ish spot. According to AIS and a certain webcam, Victory I is docked behind OCISLY.

From personal experience, if there's a serious storm surge, nothing will stop anything afloat (and some stuff that isn't!) moving.  The tugs would be beached or blown out to sea just as quickly as the ASDS.

Anyways, let's just hope the mooring lines hold.  :)
 
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2058 on: 09/12/2017 03:57 PM »
With the change in direction I'm sure the storm didn't cause too much of an issue for OCISLY.  Still, I wonder if they filled the ballast tanks as much as possible to put the barge low in the water?  Cutting the wind cross section can't hurt in a situation like this.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #2059 on: 09/13/2017 12:20 PM »
Power has been restored at Port Canaveral and the notorious webcam is back online.

OCISLY looks fine and is on her usual berth; and Elsbeth III is back berthed just to the west of the Fishlips restaurant.

According to the AIS data, Go Quest and Go Searcher are still on their holiday up-river from Jacksonville.

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