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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1420 on: 08/17/2016 04:33 PM »
I'm trying to locate the webcam from the marina parking lot from last time. Any one remember it?

Is it this?

http://www.sunrisemarina.com/web-cam

However, they have been zoomed in on the sign for a while. 

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1421 on: 08/17/2016 04:45 PM »
I'm trying to locate the webcam from the marina parking lot from last time. Any one remember it?

Is it this?

http://www.sunrisemarina.com/web-cam

However, they have been zoomed in on the sign for a while.
I thought so as well and checked it. Yes, it has not moved for some time. Oh well thanks! :)
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1422 on: 08/17/2016 04:58 PM »
@flatoday_jdean's Tweet: https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/765953502585683968?s=09

SpaceX F9 booster just arrived at Port Canaveral dock, after Aug. 14 launch of #JCSAT16. Photo by @malcolmdenemark https://t.co/5q8NME3bdb

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1423 on: 08/17/2016 05:19 PM »
Some big fat S1 numbers painted on facing in 3 directions 120* apart on the LOX section would be SO helpful going forward...
I think of that idea, every time I see a picture of one standing tall on it's gear...   8).... :-\

I mean, come on... a big fat 30 painted on the #30 rocket stage coming up...
...would sure rub it in with the competition..  ;D

Would make it SO much easier when these start reflying also... keep em all straight...  :o

Just an opinion...  ;)
« Last Edit: 08/17/2016 05:25 PM by John Alan »

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Some big fat S1 numbers painted on facing in 3 directions 120* apart on the LOX section would be SO helpful going forward...
I think of that idea, every time I see a picture of one standing tall on it's gear...   8).... :-\

I mean, come on... a big fat 30 painted on the #30 rocket stage coming up...
...would sure rub it in with the competition..  ;D

Make it SO much easier when these start reflying also... keep em all straight...  :o

Just an opinion...  ;)

Just wait 'till the FAA starts requiring N-xxxx tail numbers. ;)
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1425 on: 08/17/2016 05:24 PM »
I'm trying to locate the webcam from the marina parking lot from last time. Any one remember it?

Is it this?

http://www.sunrisemarina.com/web-cam

However, they have been zoomed in on the sign for a while.
I thought so as well and checked it. Yes, it has not moved for some time. Oh well thanks! :)
And on the Port Canaveral webcam 36 people just watched a minivan drive into a giant rectangular ship. 
Yawn.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1426 on: 08/17/2016 05:33 PM »
Some big fat S1 numbers painted on facing in 3 directions 120* apart on the LOX section would be SO helpful going forward...
I think of that idea, every time I see a picture of one standing tall on it's gear...   8).... :-\

I mean, come on... a big fat 30 painted on the #30 rocket stage coming up...
...would sure rub it in with the competition..  ;D

Make it SO much easier when these start reflying also... keep em all straight...  :o

Just an opinion...  ;)

Just wait 'till the FAA starts requiring N-xxxx tail numbers. ;)

Maybe that will happen once these are no longer termed 'experimental'.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1427 on: 08/17/2016 05:46 PM »
Wasn't this one labeled secondary instead of experimental?

8 days from out of port to back in. Let's see how long to safe and unload it. Seems they may be able to turn it around in 10 days.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1428 on: 08/17/2016 05:48 PM »
Wasn't this one labeled secondary instead of experimental?

8 days from out of port to back in. Let's see how long to safe and unload it. Seems they may be able to turn it around in 10 days.

I believe it was 'Landing Attempt' so they're still hedging a bit.
(Didn't use 'MECO Attempt', for instance.)
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1429 on: 08/17/2016 05:51 PM »
I am quite sure on some document it was changed from experimental to secondary. But have no idea what document that was. :(

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1430 on: 08/17/2016 06:05 PM »
I am quite sure on some document it was changed from experimental to secondary. But have no idea what document that was. :(

You're not wrong, check out the press kit:

http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/spacex_jcsat16_press_kit.pdf

« Last Edit: 08/17/2016 06:05 PM by Craig_VG »

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1431 on: 08/17/2016 06:14 PM »
Some big fat S1 numbers painted on facing in 3 directions 120* apart on the LOX section would be SO helpful going forward...
I think of that idea, every time I see a picture of one standing tall on it's gear...   8).... :-\

I mean, come on... a big fat 30 painted on the #30 rocket stage coming up...
...would sure rub it in with the competition..  ;D

Would make it SO much easier when these start reflying also... keep em all straight...  :o

Just an opinion...  ;)
Suggested this to @elonmusk after the previous flight. Surprisingly he did not answer.   :o

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1432 on: 08/17/2016 06:27 PM »
Photo credit: Mary Ellen Jelen / We Report Space
http://m.imgur.com/a/C9TuJ
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1433 on: 08/17/2016 06:45 PM »
Maybe it's just the optics in the camera, but does it look to anyone else like the stage has just a tiny lean to the right...?
I believe one of the three interstage/second stage interlocks happens to be on the left side of the stage, which makes the top look asymmetrical.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1434 on: 08/17/2016 06:55 PM »
Pretty clean looking stage, much less sooty... Did she get a "rain wash" out on the ocean?
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1435 on: 08/17/2016 07:05 PM »
Photo credit: Mary Ellen Jelen / We Report Space
http://m.imgur.com/a/C9TuJ

In that close up on the legs (Sy4yzYI_kindlephoto-20175096.jpg ), it sure looks like the leg on the right is cracked. There is a dent at the top of that area too.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1436 on: 08/17/2016 07:08 PM »
Looks less toasted than JCSAT-14, especially on the interstage above the grid fins.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1437 on: 08/17/2016 08:39 PM »
Any thoughts on the riveted plate visible above one grid fin in the third photo?
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread 3
« Reply #1438 on: 08/17/2016 08:53 PM »
Photo credit: Mary Ellen Jelen / We Report Space
http://m.imgur.com/a/C9TuJ

In that close up on the legs (Sy4yzYI_kindlephoto-20175096.jpg ), it sure like the leg on the right is cracked. There is a dent at the top of that area too.

Looks like the crack and dent is in a very thin foil wrapped around the leg.  You can see a lapped seam running  along the leg member.

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« Reply #1439 on: 08/17/2016 09:17 PM »
Looks like the crack and dent is in a very thin foil wrapped around the leg.  You can see a lapped seam running  along the leg member.

Maybe there's insulation under it and that was the anti-icing remedy?

The icing problem was stopping the deployment piston from latching.  I think we are looking at an arm of the A-frame here. 

The member seems to get wider at the crack, so I think it may just be a tear or crease in the wrapping - which may well be insulation - to accommodate an irregularity in the contours of whatever is underneath.  There is a similar feature in the bottom right corner of the the picture, which seems more like a crease.

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