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#220
by
Lars-J
on 27 Jun, 2016 07:15
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The capsule seemingly does not have solid motors for landing
So they have progressed from copying Soyuz mold lines to Dragon mold lines?
On a more serious note, congratulations on the flight!
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#221
by
input~2
on 27 Jun, 2016 07:22
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Anyone knows the launch mission codename for this one?
Is it "87-01"?
Seems to be "07-W1" instead. 
(07 is shared with Xichang flights, which sounds right since IIRC WSLC is actually managed by XSLC)
Thanks, we are closing in, but this will need to be confirmed
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#222
by
Dalhousie
on 27 Jun, 2016 08:59
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The capsule seemingly does not have solid motors for landing
So they have progressed from copying Soyuz mold lines to Dragon mold lines?
On a more serious note, congratulations on the flight!
Not even remotely funny
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#223
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 27 Jun, 2016 09:23
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Here are some screen grabs of the re-entry.
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#224
by
catdlr
on 27 Jun, 2016 09:43
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video for the above...
Footage: Re-entry module of Long March-7 lands safely
CCTV News
Published on Jun 26, 2016
The scaled-down version of the re-entry module of the Long March-7 carrier rocket landed on Sunday afternoon in a desert in China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, close to the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. China blasted off its new generation carrier rocket Long March-7 from the Wenchang space launch center in south China's Hainan province on Saturday.
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#225
by
edkyle99
on 27 Jun, 2016 15:57
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I take it that the graphic is showing the YZ-1A stage performing the retro burn?
- Ed Kyle
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#226
by
russianhalo117
on 27 Jun, 2016 18:11
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I take it that the graphic is showing the YZ-1A stage performing the retro burn?
- Ed Kyle
I believe yes.
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#227
by
Liss
on 27 Jun, 2016 21:12
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I'm not taking this. I believe object A is the experimental spaceship (deorbited on June 26) and object B is the YZ-1A which remained in orbit as of today.
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#228
by
jcm
on 27 Jun, 2016 22:26
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I'm not taking this. I believe object A is the experimental spaceship (deorbited on June 26) and object B is the YZ-1A which remained in orbit as of today.
Hmm... but B has not made any obvious orbit changes, shouldn't it make further burns? The point was to put the YZ-1A
in multiple orbits...
I'm open to the possibility that YZ-1A was attached to A, made the deorbit burn, and then immediately made a re-orbit burn but in the process got lost by US tracking
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#229
by
Liss
on 28 Jun, 2016 05:55
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Umm... Indeed, the B object is still in orbit and if it did perform some maneuvers these were very small.
I'd check now objects E (not seen since early June 26) and D (made quite unnatural descent later on June 26).
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#230
by
Lars-J
on 28 Jun, 2016 06:38
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The capsule seemingly does not have solid motors for landing
So they have progressed from copying Soyuz mold lines to Dragon mold lines?
On a more serious note, congratulations on the flight!
Not even remotely funny
But accurate. I would *love* to see China fly a design that isn't a close derivative of something else, but they haven't. But maybe that's the smart approach, let others do high risk projects and learn from them.
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#231
by
Jarnis
on 28 Jun, 2016 06:50
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On the subject of things that re-enter from space and plan to stay intact, I believe "aerodynamics" is the bad guy who dictates a lot of the copying as far as the outer mold line goes...
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#232
by
Bob Shaw
on 28 Jun, 2016 07:04
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But accurate. I would *love* to see China fly a design that isn't a close derivative of something else, but they haven't. But maybe that's the smart approach, let others do high risk projects and learn from them.
The Chinese are hardly the first to 'copy' spacecraft designs, but I think they are perhaps the first pay for such 'copies'. Good for them! Oh, and Japan.
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#233
by
Phillip Clark
on 28 Jun, 2016 07:13
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But accurate. I would *love* to see China fly a design that isn't a close derivative of something else, but they haven't. But maybe that's the smart approach, let others do high risk projects and learn from them.
The Chinese are hardly the first to 'copy' spacecraft designs, but I think they are perhaps the first pay for such 'copies'. Good for them! Oh, and Japan.
The Chinese do not blindly copy. They look at what other people have done and then if they want they might modify those designs into something they want to develop and which suits their requirements. Remember, most cars are simply boxes with a wheel at each corner because that is deemed to be a good design.
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#234
by
woods170
on 28 Jun, 2016 08:10
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This morning's paper. Note the comment about the US space program on page 2 from an anonymous source.
Well hey, they did exactly what communist space officials are supposed to do: praise their own program and take stabs at the
US capitalist space program. Compared to some of the statements from the former Soviet Union the Chinese are actually very mild in voicing their opinion on other space programs.
But I digress. Back OT: I hope the Chinese will incorporate automated riser cutters on the manned version of this spacecraft. Being dragged around like that by the parachute will probably be no fun whatsoever for any future crew.
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#235
by
jcm
on 28 Jun, 2016 14:01
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Umm... Indeed, the B object is still in orbit and if it did perform some maneuvers these were very small.
I'd check now objects E (not seen since early June 26) and D (made quite unnatural descent later on June 26).
Yes, D and E are the strange ones. Haven't decided what to make of it. Oh for some RCS values...
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#236
by
jcm
on 28 Jun, 2016 14:03
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Umm... Indeed, the B object is still in orbit and if it did perform some maneuvers these were very small.
I'd check now objects E (not seen since early June 26) and D (made quite unnatural descent later on June 26).
Yes, D and E are the strange ones. Haven't decided what to make of it. Oh for some RCS values...
And look at that, A just got a new TLE set so it isn't gone after all...
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#237
by
LouScheffer
on 28 Jun, 2016 18:27
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CZ-7 seems less efficient on paper, and likely will turn out to be less efficient, but with a 12 tonne payload, it apparently just out-lifted, on its inaugural launch, every Falcon 9 and Atlas 5 flown to date, not to mention every other launch vehicle flown this year to date.
This is completely bogus. Falcon, Atlas, and Proton all put 20+ tonnes into perfectly good LEOs. It's beyond dishonest to suggest their payload was less, just because they chose to use that capacity to do additional burns, to put a smaller final payload into a higher energy orbit.
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#238
by
otisbow
on 28 Jun, 2016 19:38
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Did anybody record the KANKANEWS broadcast of the launch?
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#239
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 29 Jun, 2016 13:57
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It looks like that Aolong-1 actually has a real "space debris simulator" (read: sub-satellite) that is released and grabbed by its robotic arm. CALT itself operates the satellite with the sub-satellite's release mechanism designed by the Harbin Institute of Technology.
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