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#160
by
ZachS09
on 25 Jun, 2016 14:18
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Whilst watching CCTV English language Chinese news, there was a report confirming that Putin had signed a deal that the RD-180 would be sold to China! Anyone wanna bet how soon the Long March 9 design will change to incorporate this engine? 
I think that in five to six years, the RD-180 will be officially on the Long March 9 rocket. So, I'd say between 2021 and 2022.
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#161
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Jun, 2016 14:24
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Not much has been said on the payloads, except that there's some kind of "space garbage removal experiment" on board (probably staying behind on the upper stage, if I read correctly - some kind of non-separable payload had been hinted before launch).
In other news, are there any archive video of the full launch sequence shown on CCTV from T-1 minute to upper stage separation around?
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#162
by
MATTBLAK
on 25 Jun, 2016 14:39
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Whilst watching CCTV English language Chinese news, there was a report confirming that Putin had signed a deal that the RD-180 would be sold to China! Anyone wanna bet how soon the Long March 9 design will change to incorporate this engine?
I think that in five to six years, the RD-180 will be officially on the Long March 9 rocket. So, I'd say between 2021 and 2022.
It was always going to make an excellent Heavy Lift launcher rocket engine - such as on the Atlas V Phase 2 concept. Long March 9 might incorporate up to 8 of them if four liquid strap on boosters are used with a cryogenic corestage, or 12 if the corestage is redesigned as also being all LOX/Kerosene, with the upper stages being cryogenic with the new YF-220 engines. I think we can finally rule out huge solids for the strap on boosters.
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#163
by
Infinitesky
on 25 Jun, 2016 14:49
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I think that in five to six years, the RD-180 will be officially on the Long March 9 rocket. So, I'd say between 2021 and 2022.
China has their YF460 (500 tons LOX / kerosene rocket engine) and YF220 (220 tons hydrogen oxygen engine) plan for LM9, perhaps YF460 will largely refer to the design of RD180, but not directly brought to use.
China develops a new rocket is in order to promote the development of their technology, rather than making a rocket itself.
So it might be possible for LM9 to emerge until 2030, and the manned moon landing program will be even more late.
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#164
by
input~2
on 25 Jun, 2016 14:50
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Anyone knows the launch mission codename for this one?
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#165
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Jun, 2016 15:13
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I now have the full list of the payloads on board - turns out to be
6 satellites plus 1 non-separable experiment on the upper stage. However as the news reports were very brief and the operators and details of some of them are still missing, I'm still waiting for more info before posting the full details.
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#166
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Jun, 2016 15:18
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#167
by
jcm
on 25 Jun, 2016 15:36
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I now have the full list of the payloads on board - turns out to be 6 satellites plus 1 non-separable experiment on the upper stage. However as the news reports were very brief and the operators and details of some of them are still missing, I'm still waiting for more info before posting the full details.
Seems like there are some details here
http://scitech.people.com.cn/n1/2016/0625/c1057-28478343.html
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#168
by
jcm
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:03
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If I am translating correctly the payloads are
遨龙一号
(Ao Long yi hao, Dragon Excursion 1 - or maybe Network Something...)
for active space debris cleanup
翱翔之星
(aoxiang zhixing, Hover Star)
12U cubesat for radiation and gravity field measurement, navigation technology
天鸽飞行器
(tiange feixingqi, Dove Aircraft 1 and 2) - a pair of data relay satellites
在轨加注实验装置
(zai guijia zhu shiyan zhuangzhi)
In-orbit refuelling experiment, remains attached to YZ1A
as well as the return capsule which presumably reenters along with the YZ-1A.
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#169
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:24
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Not much has been said on the payloads, except that there's some kind of "space garbage removal experiment" on board (probably staying behind on the upper stage, if I read correctly - some kind of non-separable payload had been hinted before launch).
In other news, are there any archive video of the full launch sequence shown on CCTV from T-1 minute to upper stage separation around?
This is what I want but I can't grab the video out of the website. Can someone help with this? Thanks!
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#170
by
jcm
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:33
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Not much has been said on the payloads, except that there's some kind of "space garbage removal experiment" on board (probably staying behind on the upper stage, if I read correctly - some kind of non-separable payload had been hinted before launch).
In other news, are there any archive video of the full launch sequence shown on CCTV from T-1 minute to upper stage separation around?
This is what I want but I can't grab the video out of the website. Can someone help with this? Thanks!
Here's my attempt, did that work?
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#171
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:40
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Not much has been said on the payloads, except that there's some kind of "space garbage removal experiment" on board (probably staying behind on the upper stage, if I read correctly - some kind of non-separable payload had been hinted before launch).
In other news, are there any archive video of the full launch sequence shown on CCTV from T-1 minute to upper stage separation around?
This is what I want but I can't grab the video out of the website. Can someone help with this? Thanks!
Here's my attempt, did that work?
Thanks!
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#172
by
jcm
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:49
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Based on the above video stage 2 cutoff is T+592s and YZ-1 separation is T+599s
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#173
by
Phillip Clark
on 25 Jun, 2016 16:53
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Here's my attempt, did that work?
Like a dream, thank you. Almost as if you were sitting there yourself.
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#174
by
input~2
on 25 Jun, 2016 17:09
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Anyone knows the launch mission codename for this one?
Is it "87-01"?
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#175
by
fringe_dweller
on 25 Jun, 2016 17:23
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2016-042A 41624: 381 x 288 km, i=40.8°
2016-042B 41625: 377 x 289 km, i=40.79°
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#176
by
IanO
on 25 Jun, 2016 20:01
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Is there an official list of flight event times somewhere? From the video, here is what I observed:
1:26 liftoff
4:20 booster jettison
4:34 core shutdown
4:36 stage 2 ignition
5:03 fairing jettison (218s on video overlay)
11:17 stage 2 shutdown (593s on video overlay)
11:23 payload separation
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#177
by
fringe_dweller
on 25 Jun, 2016 20:43
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2016-042C 41626: 379 x 201 km, i=40.8°
Object D missing
2016-042E 41628: 379 x 204 km, i=40.8°
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#178
by
jcm
on 25 Jun, 2016 20:51
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2016-042C 41626: 379 x 201 km, i=40.8°
Object D missing
2016-042E 41628: 379 x 204 km, i=40.8°
Also some objects in more elliptical orbit which may be stage 2 sep motor covers 41630 - 41633
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#179
by
Liss
on 25 Jun, 2016 20:54
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Times from Chinese press:
6月25日20时00分，我国载人航天工程为发射货运飞船而全新研制的长征七号运载火箭在海南文昌航天发射场点火升空，约 603秒后，载荷组合体与火箭成功分离，进入近地点 200 千米、远地点394千米的椭圆轨道，长征七号运载火箭首次发射圆满成功。
１６７秒，火箭助推器分离。
１８２秒，火箭一二级分离。此时，火箭已经飞出地球大气层。
２１１秒，整流罩分离。
A reconstruction from 9ifly.cn:
T+0，点火
T+174秒，助推器分离
T+190秒，一级分离
T+213秒，整流罩分离
T+603秒，级箭分离
T+约38分钟，遨龙一号分离
T+约1小时42分，翱翔之星分离
T+19小时20分~20小时，缩比返回舱分离返回东风着陆场
