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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #480 on: 08/21/2016 11:21 PM »
If doesn't have to launch again, there are descent outdoor paints at home depot...
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #481 on: 08/22/2016 01:27 AM »
If doesn't have to launch again, there are descent outdoor paints at home depot...

Well, it's certainly the descent paints they'll be looking for!  :)
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #482 on: 08/22/2016 01:46 AM »
ouch.
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #483 on: 08/22/2016 04:19 AM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #484 on: 08/22/2016 04:38 AM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.

Which reports? The images (linked earlier) seem to show Jack stands.

http://lhopkins.com/2016/08/20/first-stage-installation-day/

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #485 on: 08/22/2016 04:57 AM »
On their facebook page, it was stated that the jacks were removed once the legs were in place.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #486 on: 08/22/2016 06:14 AM »
If doesn't have to launch again, there are descent outdoor paints at home depot...

Why Home Depot? There must be someone at the SX CTO's side business at Fremont that have some expertise in outdoor paints for external metal surfaces. :P

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #487 on: 08/22/2016 06:26 AM »
If doesn't have to launch again, there are descent outdoor paints at home depot...

Why Home Depot? There must be someone at the SX CTO's side business at Fremont that have some expertise in outdoor paints for external metal surfaces.
There you go...

I just didn't understand the worry about the paint job.

Bird shit, ok, that I get.  Maybe one of those magic no-stick coatings you see on youTube will help....  I always wondered if they work on non-youTube birds...
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #488 on: 08/22/2016 07:41 AM »
If doesn't have to launch again, there are descent outdoor paints at home depot...

Why Home Depot? There must be someone at the SX CTO's side business at Fremont that have some expertise in outdoor paints for external metal surfaces. :P

Why indeed; Lowe's and Target are across Crenshaw from their HQ ;)
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #489 on: 08/22/2016 08:17 AM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.
If the legs alone are good enough for absorbing the impact of landing and subsequently keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea then they should be more than good enough for keeping the stage upright on a solid piece of concrete in Hawthorne. All that needs to be done is to anchor the legs to the ground.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #490 on: 08/22/2016 12:52 PM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.
If the legs alone are good enough for absorbing the impact of landing and subsequently keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea then they should be more than good enough for keeping the stage upright on a solid piece of concrete in Hawthorne. All that needs to be done is to anchor the legs to the ground.

Perhaps, but they're not good enough for "keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea" which is why they use the jacks and weld them to the deck ASAP after landing.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #491 on: 08/22/2016 01:52 PM »
Not sure why all the worry about paint, weather, and lightning, etc.  Except for earthquakes, the LA Area is a far more benign environment than Florida.  KSC has 6 months of extreme humidity, near constant aerosol salt spray,  frequent high thunderstorm winds, torrential downpours,  lots of lightning, and an occasional Tropical Storm or Hurricane, and they manage to keep the Rocket Garden display looking good:

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #492 on: 08/22/2016 02:41 PM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.
If the legs alone are good enough for absorbing the impact of landing and subsequently keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea then they should be more than good enough for keeping the stage upright on a solid piece of concrete in Hawthorne. All that needs to be done is to anchor the legs to the ground.

Perhaps, but they're not good enough for "keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea" which is why they use the jacks and weld them to the deck ASAP after landing.

The first stage to land on a barge wouldn't have survived if that was true. It was pitching and rolling in the wind pretty good during and after landing. They obviously weren't going to tow it in like that, but the legs did the job until the crew got there to anchor it.
 Granted, there might still be reasons you wouldn't want to leave the stage solely on the legs permanently.
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #493 on: 08/22/2016 03:02 PM »

 Granted, there might still be reasons you wouldn't want to leave the stage solely on the legs permanently.
It wouldn't 'look right' if it were supported by jack stands.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #494 on: 08/22/2016 04:26 PM »
First good pic I've seen of it standing on its own legs with the engines in plain view (i.e., no jacks):

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #495 on: 08/22/2016 04:44 PM »
Am I reading these reports correctly that this stage is supported only by the landing legs? Seems there should be something more substantial for long term display.
If the legs alone are good enough for absorbing the impact of landing and subsequently keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea then they should be more than good enough for keeping the stage upright on a solid piece of concrete in Hawthorne. All that needs to be done is to anchor the legs to the ground.

Perhaps, but they're not good enough for "keeping the stage upright on a rolling platform in a gusty sea" which is why they use the jacks and weld them to the deck ASAP after landing.

The first stage to land on a barge wouldn't have survived if that was true. It was pitching and rolling in the wind pretty good during and after landing. They obviously weren't going to tow it in like that, but the legs did the job until the crew got there to anchor it.
 Granted, there might still be reasons you wouldn't want to leave the stage solely on the legs permanently.
The one that skittered across the deck demonstrated that the legs themselves are insufficient to secure the stage at sea. "Until the crew got there" is not "keeping", that's the point. Sure the legs are good to land on and hold it up, but they are not intended to be the sole support at sea.

The legs alone may well be sufficient for Hawthorne, but the fact that they were landed on at sea, (and then given help ASAP) is insufficient justification to say so.

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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #496 on: 08/22/2016 04:46 PM »
my worry is not whether they can take the load now but rather if they can take the load continuously for years and years, as the materials deteriorate.
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #497 on: 08/22/2016 04:59 PM »
Odds are the legs and mounts are "rigidified" and their feet bolted to the slab.
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #498 on: 08/22/2016 05:42 PM »
Odds are the legs and mounts are "rigidified" and their feet bolted to the slab.

That's a fairly safe bet....
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Re: Refurbishment of Used Stages/Vehicles
« Reply #499 on: 08/22/2016 06:26 PM »
Interesting that I did see on one of the close-up shots of the struts... on the ground prior to installation, that they were marked "flown articles."

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