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Rokot/Briz-KM - 3xRodnik - Plesetsk - Sept. 23, 2015 (22:00 UTC)
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input~2
on 21 Sep, 2015 10:03
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Could these NOTAMs be for Kanopus-ST launch? Potential launch on September 23 from 2145UTC
G3432/15 - TEMPO DANGER AREA ACT WI CIRCLE RADIUS 50 KM CENTRE 74.24N 053.07E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2145-2245, 23 SEP 21:45 2015 UNTIL 24 SEP 22:45 2015. CREATED: 19 SEP 07:01 2015
G3433/15 - DANGER AREA ACT: ULD2. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2145-2245, 23 SEP 21:45 2015 UNTIL 24 SEP 22:45 2015. CREATED: 19 SEP 06:53 2015
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#1
by
ostangen
on 21 Sep, 2015 10:22
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#2
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 21 Sep, 2015 10:29
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These NOTAM are identical to the one we observe when ROKOT/BRIZ launch GONETS/RODNIK satellittes
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34680.0;all
There was an unnamed ISS Reshetnev military satellite waiting for launch in late September too - that would fit since the K-2491/2499/2504 series was supposed to be their creation.
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#3
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 21 Sep, 2015 13:00
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#4
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Nicolas PILLET
on 21 Sep, 2015 14:41
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#5
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 23 Sep, 2015 19:14
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Little bump for this launch, which should happen very soon !
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#6
by
Chris Bergin
on 23 Sep, 2015 20:53
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OK, so Three Rodnik birds and one "Kosmos"? Everything I've read only mentions three Rodniks. Someone ease Chris' confusion!
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#7
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Phillip Clark
on 23 Sep, 2015 20:54
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OK, so Three Rodnik birds and one "Kosmos"? Everything I've read only mentions three Rodniks. Someone ease Chris' confusion!
Confusion is what makes life fun, Chris!
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#8
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Chris Bergin
on 23 Sep, 2015 20:57
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#9
by
Satori
on 23 Sep, 2015 20:59
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OK, so Three Rodnik birds and one "Kosmos"? Everything I've read only mentions three Rodniks. Someone ease Chris' confusion!
Previous launches with Rodniks had a fourth mysterious satellite on board. It is possible (possible!!!) that this launch will also have a similar mysteriou satellites or the DOSAAF-85, a small satellite to test advanced technologies.
We have to wait and see.
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#10
by
Skyrocket
on 23 Sep, 2015 20:59
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I had heared one report, that DOSAAF-85 might be on board, but could not verify this.
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#11
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Chris Bergin
on 23 Sep, 2015 21:05
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Thanks guys!
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#12
by
Satori
on 23 Sep, 2015 21:58
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Lets keep an eye on the news. Launch should be taking place around this time.
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#13
by
Satori
on 23 Sep, 2015 22:05
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Lets keep an eye on the news. Launch should be taking place around this time.
And we have a launch...
http://tass.ru/kosmos/2286369 (in Russian).
Launch time: 2200UTC.
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#14
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Chris Bergin
on 23 Sep, 2015 22:09
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#15
by
Satori
on 23 Sep, 2015 22:09
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#16
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 24 Sep, 2015 03:18
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#17
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 24 Sep, 2015 04:32
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#18
by
satwatcher
on 24 Sep, 2015 06:42
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So far no new radio transmissions at the same frequency (2280MHz) as COSMOS-2491/2499/2504 have been picked up. So it may well be that the 4th payload is different.
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#19
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Galactic Penguin SST
on 24 Sep, 2015 07:40
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So far no new radio transmissions at the same frequency (2280MHz) as COSMOS-2491/2499/2504 have been picked up. So it may well be that the 4th payload is different.
....or maybe this time there are just 3 satellites? I might have made a wrong interpretation since I forgot that the Gonets-M/Rodnik line were also from ISS Reshetnev.
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#20
by
input~2
on 24 Sep, 2015 08:27
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I propose we wait a little more to see if a 5th Object is catalogued by USSTRATCOM before concluding on the number of S/C onboard this launch.
For the time being we have 3 Rodniks (Object A, B and C) and Briz-KM (Object D)
In the 3 previous cases, Object E took longer to be catalogued...
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#21
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 24 Sep, 2015 11:31
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According to anik the exact liftoff time was at 21:59:38 UTC.
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#22
by
Stan Black
on 24 Sep, 2015 17:23
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Anik is showing Briz-KM №72512. It was originally to carry 14Ф31 Geo-IK-2 №11 Kosmos-2470 but was swapped before that launch?
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#23
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Skyrocket
on 24 Sep, 2015 20:24
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Anik is showing Briz-KM №72512. It was originally to carry 14Ф31 Geo-IK-2 №11 Kosmos-2470 but was swapped before that launch?
Interestingly, it apparently also used the different payload fairing type, which was only used for the Geo-IK-2 before.
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#24
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Nicolas PILLET
on 24 Sep, 2015 20:45
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Interestingly, it apparently also used the different payload fairing type, which was only used for the Geo-IK-2 before.
Really ? I've compared with pictures from past launches, they all look the same to me...
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#25
by
Skyrocket
on 24 Sep, 2015 22:58
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Interestingly, it apparently also used the different payload fairing type, which was only used for the Geo-IK-2 before.
Really ? I've compared with pictures from past launches, they all look the same to me...
See following attached images. The Geo-IK2 launch has a different shape. Yesterdays launch appears to have the same shape.
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#26
by
russianhalo117
on 24 Sep, 2015 23:22
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Interestingly, it apparently also used the different payload fairing type, which was only used for the Geo-IK-2 before.
Really ? I've compared with pictures from past launches, they all look the same to me...
See following attached images. The Geo-IK2 launch has a different shape. Yesterdays launch appears to have the same shape.
it appears to match design of the Angara A1.1 variant and was designed to be more lightweight and eventually replace Rockot fairing.
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#27
by
satwatcher
on 25 Sep, 2015 09:10
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The first set of JSpOC elements for the CZ-11 launch have been published. The first object has ID 40925. At present 4 objects are assigned to the Rokot launch with IDs 40920, 40921, 40922, 40923. This leaves ID 40924 unassigned, suggesting JSpOC expects a 5th object from the Rokot launch.
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#28
by
anik
on 25 Sep, 2015 10:18
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There is nothing to expect.
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#29
by
zubenelgenubi
on 27 Sep, 2015 20:07
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I propose we wait a little more to see if a 5th Object is catalogued by USSTRATCOM before concluding on the number of S/C onboard this launch.
For the time being we have 3 Rodniks (Object A, B and C) and Briz-KM (Object D)
In the 3 previous cases, Object E took longer to be catalogued...
The first set of JSpOC elements for the CZ-11 launch have been published. The first object has ID 40925. At present 4 objects are assigned to the Rokot launch with IDs 40920, 40921, 40922, 40923. This leaves ID 40924 unassigned, suggesting JSpOC expects a 5th object from the Rokot launch.
There is nothing to expect.
Does the absence of evidence (there has been no announcement of detection of a 5th object from this launch) mean evidence of absence (there is no 5th object/4th satellite)?
Further thinking aloud:
If there is no Kosmos 2491/2499/2504-type satellite aboard this launch, and DOSAAF-85 was not launched, then did they just use ballast?
Or could a 4th satellite have been launched, but failed and remained attached, inert, to the Briz upper stage?
Zubenelgenubi
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#30
by
Phillip Clark
on 28 Sep, 2015 04:40
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The first set of JSpOC elements for the CZ-11 launch have been published. The first object has ID 40925. At present 4 objects are assigned to the Rokot launch with IDs 40920, 40921, 40922, 40923. This leaves ID 40924 unassigned, suggesting JSpOC expects a 5th object from the Rokot launch.
In the past gaps have been left in the numbering system when objects are expected to be catalogued but there is no promise that such objects exist.
