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#220
by
oldAtlas_Eguy
on 23 Sep, 2015 22:18
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A launch rate that allows them to "clear the field" of ready payloads will cut the comment about not supporting the launch date will be highly diminished.
As a business manage things such that cost impacts are minimized (such as producing as normal all parts not requiring rework or engineering changes) even if you have to purchase some short term industrial storage. This is a private business not a government contractor who would have to stop all work during an investigation.
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#221
by
Roy_H
on 24 Sep, 2015 02:45
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When helium expands, it heats.
I don't think so. I think you are confusing the fact that if you heat a gas, it expands. But the converse is when it expands it absorbs heat.
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#222
by
Jim
on 24 Sep, 2015 03:02
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When helium expands, it heats.
I don't think so. I think you are confusing the fact that if you heat a gas, it expands. But the converse is when it expands it absorbs heat.
Not with He
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule–Thomson_effect
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#223
by
Shanuson
on 24 Sep, 2015 11:54
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Elon Musk was today in Berlin at an event with Sigmar Garbiel, German Minister of Economics and Energy.
http://www.bmwi.de/DE/Mediathek/videos,did=727262.htmlThere he mentioned that the next launch should be in 68 days from today.
They should provide a video of that livestream in a short time for those who want to watch it.
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#224
by
Roy_H
on 24 Sep, 2015 12:15
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When helium expands, it heats.
I don't think so. I think you are confusing the fact that if you heat a gas, it expands. But the converse is when it expands it absorbs heat.
Not with He
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule–Thomson_effect
Well, I learned something to-day.
"Helium has a negative Joule-Thomson coefficient at normal ambient temperatures, meaning it heats up when allowed to freely expand. Only below its Joule-Thomson inversion temperature (of about 32 to 50 K at 1 atmosphere) does it cool upon free expansion.[10] Once precooled below this temperature, helium can be liquefied through expansion cooling."
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#225
by
Joaosg
on 24 Sep, 2015 13:09
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Elon Musk was today in Berlin at an event with Sigmar Garbiel, German Minister of Economics and Energy.
http://www.bmwi.de/DE/Mediathek/videos,did=727262.html
There he mentioned that the next launch should be in 68 days from today.
They should provide a video of that livestream in a short time for those who want to watch it.
December 1st? With such a precise number like 68 days, looks like they finally are getting that schedule fixed and very well defined..
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#226
by
Chris Bergin
on 24 Sep, 2015 14:05
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Elon Musk was today in Berlin at an event with Sigmar Garbiel, German Minister of Economics and Energy.
http://www.bmwi.de/DE/Mediathek/videos,did=727262.html
There he mentioned that the next launch should be in 68 days from today.
They should provide a video of that livestream in a short time for those who want to watch it.
December 1st? With such a precise number like 68 days, looks like they finally are getting that schedule fixed and very well defined..
Strange he can be so precise when you can't be that specific even in a nominal flow so far out, nevermind RTF. Anyway!
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#227
by
oldAtlas_Eguy
on 24 Sep, 2015 14:34
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This 1 Dec date makes me think they did a testing survey of other critical parts from vendors that they did not normally test to see if any other parts supplies had similar quality problems. I wonder if they found any other vendor part quality problems?
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#228
by
Semmel
on 24 Sep, 2015 14:52
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I listened to the stream and he said:
We will launch again in a couple of month, maybe 6 to 8 weeks. If all goes well, we will be able to land the rocket. .. ohh.. although we will be happy if just gets to orbit of course. but hopefully it can come back and land as well.
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#229
by
Shanuson
on 24 Sep, 2015 14:52
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Elon Musk was today in Berlin at an event with Sigmar Garbiel, German Minister of Economics and Energy.
http://www.bmwi.de/DE/Mediathek/videos,did=727262.html
There he mentioned that the next launch should be in 68 days from today.
They should provide a video of that livestream in a short time for those who want to watch it.
December 1st? With such a precise number like 68 days, looks like they finally are getting that schedule fixed and very well defined..
Strange he can be so precise when you can't be that specific even in a nominal flow so far out, nevermind RTF. Anyway!
Well the 68 days was a quote from a summary on another forum, I was to late to see the beginning live, rewatched that now,
he starts to talk about space at minute 14.
For RTF he actually said couple of month, 6-8 weeks.
I don't know how that other person comes to the idea that it is 68 days from now. Sry to have reported that wrong.
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#230
by
Blizzzard
on 24 Sep, 2015 15:26
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For RTF he actually said couple of month, 6-8 weeks.
6-8 weeks is still in line with what we were expecting for SES-9, right?
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#231
by
Kansan52
on 24 Sep, 2015 15:56
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For RTF he actually said couple of month, 6-8 weeks.
6-8 weeks is still in line with what we were expecting for SES-9, right?
Yes.
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#232
by
Chris Bergin
on 24 Sep, 2015 16:07
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For RTF he actually said couple of month, 6-8 weeks.
6-8 weeks is still in line with what we were expecting for SES-9, right?
Yep. That's more like it.
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#233
by
John Santos
on 24 Sep, 2015 16:33
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For RTF he actually said couple of month, 6-8 weeks.
6-8 weeks is still in line with what we were expecting for SES-9, right?
Yep. That's more like it.
6-8 weeks is Nov 5 to Nov 19. Current NET date for SES 9 (according to another site) is Nov 17, so this sounds more like a move left than right on RTF.
Maybe someone heard "6 to 8" as "sixty-eight", and thought "68 weeks can't be right, he must have said 68 days." If you listen in on EVAs and other activities where numbers are important, they always repeat numbers and units very carefully for exactly this reason. I wish people did the same in press conferences and reporting.
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#234
by
Hugo-norway
on 24 Sep, 2015 18:17
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My guess on the pressure back to normal is
Bottle breaks free and helium leaks(a lot, very high pressure) Part of the pipe still attached, hit the top of the lox tank and pipe bend and seal the tank. Like if you try to bend a straw it will not make a U it will make a V and seal.
Hugo
liked the interview in Berlin today. And since i also speak german i get all of the conversation.
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#235
by
Chris Bergin
on 24 Sep, 2015 19:53
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Current NET date for SES 9 (according to another site) is Nov 17
Oh yeah, NASASpaceflight.com. I go on that site often
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#236
by
WindyCity
on 25 Sep, 2015 00:51
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Elon Musk was today in Berlin at an event with Sigmar Garbiel, German Minister of Economics and Energy.
http://www.bmwi.de/DE/Mediathek/videos,did=727262.html
There he mentioned that the next launch should be in 68 days from today.
They should provide a video of that livestream in a short time for those who want to watch it.
December 1st? With such a precise number like 68 days, looks like they finally are getting that schedule fixed and very well defined..
Strange he can be so precise when you can't be that specific even in a nominal flow so far out, nevermind RTF. Anyway!
He wasn't so precise. I just watched the video, published on 9/24/15. Musk said, "We hope to launch again in a couple of months, uh, so I guess maybe in six or eight weeks from now."
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#237
by
docmordrid
on 25 Sep, 2015 01:39
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Yeah Baby!!
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#238
by
NovaSilisko
on 25 Sep, 2015 01:42
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Awesome.
... but I can't help but notice the logo is covered in a sheet of ice, thanks to the chilled RP1
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#239
by
Lars-J
on 25 Sep, 2015 02:04
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Also our first view of the new (in-ground) test stand in action!