Author Topic: Eutelsat OneWeb: Constellation - General Thread (Read 682259 times)

gongora · « **Reply #1000 on:** 09/07/2020 03:20 pm »

I haven't seen a list of which contracts were retained and which were canceled, but I'm pretty sure the Softbank agreements would have had to be canceled for any purchase to happen. They were literally "SoftBank has first rights to all capacity that wasn't already contractually assigned to someone else", and the dollar amounts involved were probably more than SoftBank would want to commit right now anyway.

gongora · « **Reply #1001 on:** 09/14/2020 12:11 am »

https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47378/847865_555.pdf

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It is imperative for the Debtors’ going concern restructuring that the
Debtors restart their satellite launch cadence and complete their satellite constellation necessary
for commencing commercial service. To that end, the Debtors used the Initial Interim Funding, in
part, to enable their joint venture with Airbus to resume production of OneWeb satellites. In order
to launch these satellites, however, the Debtors require the agreement with their launch provider,
Arianespace S.A.S. (“Arianespace”). To secure a launch by the end of the year and resume their
monthly launch schedule, the Debtors must pay Arianespace $9,747,148 by mid-September.
Arianespace has indicated that, unless and until it receives this payment, it will not commence the
preparatory work necessary to resume the Debtors’ launch schedule. In further support of the
Debtors’ going concern restructuring, the Plan Sponsor has agreed to provide an additional $9.95
million in new money DIP Loans

This document from June shows the amounts OneWeb proposed paying various companies to maintain their contracts:
https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47378/827509_323.pdf

gongora · « **Reply #1002 on:** 09/16/2020 03:28 am »

https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47378/848702_562.pdf

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5. Immediately upon the entry of this Order, the Debtors may draw the Additional
Funding to pay Arianespace and otherwise utilize such funding in accordance with the DIP Budget
attached as Annex A to the Second DIP Amendment.

gongora · « **Reply #1003 on:** 09/17/2020 12:51 pm »

https://twitter.com/OneWeb/status/1306567792444026886

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Check out our Florida ground station in sync! These antenna are in test mode as we get back to work. They will move constantly to track requests from our satellites as they pass overhead. Hosted by @SSCspace, this is just one of our many sites built and coming around the world.

Rondaz · « **Reply #1004 on:** 09/17/2020 10:25 pm »

I haven't done an update on the OneWeb sats in a while; the Launch 2 sats are now orbit raising towards 1200km. They are currently passing through 900 km.

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1306673915545169921

Rondaz · « **Reply #1005 on:** 09/20/2020 02:06 pm »

A mediation term sheet filed with the bankruptcy court says @OneWeb and its creditors "have reached a global settlement resolving all issues or claims arising" (https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47378/849620_569.pdf). Amended bankruptcy plan (https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47378/849630_572.pdf) to be approved on 02-OCT-2020 10:00AM EST.

https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1307584198111264771

eeergo · « **Reply #1006 on:** 09/20/2020 08:37 pm »

Re: OneWeb as GNSS.

https://twitter.com/AuerSusan/status/1307719476763385856

alanr74 · « **Reply #1007 on:** 09/20/2020 10:57 pm »

Quote from: eeergo on 09/20/2020 08:37 pm

Re: OneWeb as GNSS.

https://twitter.com/AuerSusan/status/1307719476763385856

Just seems a rehash of other previous articles. No one is suggesting heavy atomic clocks are placed on them, which would be the MK2s or even later ones but rather either use the newer atomic clocks on a chip or piggy back off public channels. Both of these options produce the same accuracy due to having "many" satellites. I wonder if the SKYNET 6 satellites can also be used for the atomic clock (obviously just theorycrafting that bit).

As for the "interference" that sounds rubbish. Everything I have read has indicated it would be harder to block, or at least just as hard.

As I say it just sounds like the usual gubbins from sources and disgruntled staff who if they had been asked to be part of the in crowd from day one, would be all for this now.

It shows bad leadership from the government but as it is all Brexit related now, you'll have a lot of people against it just for the reason of Brexit.

eeergo · « **Reply #1008 on:** 09/21/2020 08:17 am »

Quote from: alanr74 on 09/20/2020 10:57 pm

Quote from: eeergo on 09/20/2020 08:37 pm
Re: OneWeb as GNSS.
Just seems a rehash of other previous articles. No one is suggesting heavy atomic clocks are placed on them, which would be the MK2s or even later ones but rather either use the newer atomic clocks on a chip or piggy back off public channels. Both of these options produce the same accuracy due to having "many" satellites. I wonder if the SKYNET 6 satellites can also be used for the atomic clock (obviously just theorycrafting that bit).

As for the "interference" that sounds rubbish. Everything I have read has indicated it would be harder to block, or at least just as hard.

As I say it just sounds like the usual gubbins from sources and disgruntled staff who if they had been asked to be part of the in crowd from day one, would be all for this now.

It shows bad leadership from the government but as it is all Brexit related now, you'll have a lot of people against it just for the reason of Brexit.

I'm not sure opinions from UKSA officials should be labeled as "gubbins from disgruntled staff" which "sound rubbish" unless you have a pretty strong argument against them, rather than handwaving "everything you read" states the complete opposite. Likewise, fancy unproven low-TRL solutions can be thrown around all day long, but they wouldn't be inexpensive or practical, which is the claim here. As for Brexit, it's difficult not to refer to it when the whole point of this hypothetical system was to have been "independence" from EU's Galileo, plus was initiated, advertised and justified by the pro-Brexit government as such.

Swedish chef · « **Reply #1009 on:** 09/21/2020 10:30 am »

https://twitter.com/OneWebSatellit1/status/1307983001255636992

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TODAY'S the day! Watch our episode on "Made in a Day" @NatGeoChannel
at 10:30 a.m. ET. #MadeInADay

eeergo · « **Reply #1010 on:** 09/21/2020 10:31 am »

Concurrently (huge respite for Soyuz/Roscosmos and Arianespace):

https://twitter.com/arianespaceceo/status/1307987744153653248

Rik ISS-fan · « **Reply #1011 on:** 09/21/2020 12:53 pm »

So AFAIK three Oneweb soyuz launches have taken place.
And 16 launches are again planned to take place between now and end 2022.
Thus the total amount of Soyuz launches for oneweb will be 19, two less that initially planned. ?!

alexterrell · « **Reply #1012 on:** 09/21/2020 01:05 pm »

Quote from: eeergo on 09/21/2020 10:31 am

Concurrently (huge respite for Soyuz/Roscosmos and Arianespace):

https://twitter.com/arianespaceceo/status/1307987744153653248

A launch target for December suggests no modifications to the satellites for any navigational services.

I wouldn't expect any innovative positioning service from OneWeb - just a Number 2 competitor to Starlink. If it doesn't fail again, the British Government can declare success and move on.

eeergo · « **Reply #1013 on:** 09/21/2020 01:20 pm »

Quote from: Rik ISS-fan on 09/21/2020 12:53 pm

So AFAIK three Oneweb soyuz launches have taken place.
And 16 launches are again planned to take place between now and end 2022.
Thus the total amount of Soyuz launches for oneweb will be 19, two less that initially planned. ?!

Peter de Selding's take: https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1308029192106319873

Robotbeat · « **Reply #1014 on:** 09/21/2020 01:24 pm »

Quote from: eeergo on 09/21/2020 01:20 pm

Quote from: Rik ISS-fan on 09/21/2020 12:53 pm
So AFAIK three Oneweb soyuz launches have taken place.
And 16 launches are again planned to take place between now and end 2022.
Thus the total amount of Soyuz launches for oneweb will be 19, two less that initially planned. ?!

Peter de Selding's take: https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1308029192106319873

Well, that's a very relevant result as some of us have speculated that the new OneWeb might want to have launched a bunch on Falcon 9 to save money.

gongora · « **Reply #1015 on:** 09/21/2020 02:08 pm »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 09/21/2020 01:24 pm

Quote from: eeergo on 09/21/2020 01:20 pm
Quote from: Rik ISS-fan on 09/21/2020 12:53 pm
So AFAIK three Oneweb soyuz launches have taken place.
And 16 launches are again planned to take place between now and end 2022.
Thus the total amount of Soyuz launches for oneweb will be 19, two less that initially planned. ?!

Peter de Selding's take: https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1308029192106319873
Well, that's a very relevant result as some of us have speculated that the new OneWeb might want to have launched a bunch on Falcon 9 to save money.

Throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars you've already paid doesn't save money.

Robotbeat · « **Reply #1016 on:** 09/21/2020 02:27 pm »

It might, if you have to pay billions more. Sunk cost fallacy and all that.

Nomadd · « **Reply #1017 on:** 09/21/2020 04:21 pm »

Quote from: gongora on 09/21/2020 02:08 pm

Throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars you've already paid doesn't save money.

That philosophy often costs companies huge amounts of money. The entire OneWeb project is a good example.

Frogstar_Robot · « **Reply #1018 on:** 09/21/2020 04:35 pm »

Quote from: alexterrell on 09/21/2020 01:05 pm

I wouldn't expect any innovative positioning service from OneWeb - just a Number 2 competitor to Starlink. If it doesn't fail again, the British Government can declare success and move on.

And if it does fail again, HMG will find some way to claim it is a success

Rondaz · « **Reply #1019 on:** 09/24/2020 06:22 pm »

OneWeb welcomes the @GOVUK announcement from @Beisgovuk & @spacegovuk for sat nav and stands ready to work with partners to develop PNT solutions across a global footprint for the U.K. and partners.

https://twitter.com/OneWeb/status/1309164726128185345