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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #500 on: 03/12/2018 02:20 PM »
SLS/Orion has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #501 on: 03/16/2018 05:44 PM »
This pretty new document by NASA, provided in https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/cislunar-station-new-name-presidents-budget/ shows six Commercial Crews flights in the fiscal year 2019 (October 2018 - September 2019). Am I wrong or have I missed something, I thought only maximum of four flights are planned in this timeframe.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #502 on: 03/17/2018 03:20 AM »
Perhaps they aren't considering the crewed test flights to be part of crew rotation.

This pretty new document by NASA, provided in https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/cislunar-station-new-name-presidents-budget/ shows six Commercial Crews flights in the fiscal year 2019 (October 2018 - September 2019). Am I wrong or have I missed something, I thought only maximum of four flights are planned in this timeframe.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #503 on: 03/18/2018 01:24 AM »
This pretty new document by NASA, provided in https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/cislunar-station-new-name-presidents-budget/ shows six Commercial Crews flights in the fiscal year 2019 (October 2018 - September 2019). Am I wrong or have I missed something, I thought only maximum of four flights are planned in this timeframe.
They may for planning/budget reasons have to start moving on two flights from each provider as a contingency for one of the providers hitting a schedule snag. So the hope may be one flight from A and one from B, but if A has a problem then B is already preparing for two flights, or vice versa.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #504 on: 03/20/2018 04:02 PM »
Tweet from Emre Kelly:
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Updated commercial crew slide from KSC Director Cabana's presentation today; appears to be as expected. Uncrewed Boeing and SpaceX flights in August, crewed in November and December, respectively. More details in photo.

Boeing pad abort in April.
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?
« Last Edit: 03/20/2018 04:03 PM by gongora »

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #505 on: 03/20/2018 04:16 PM »
Tweet from Emre Kelly:
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Updated commercial crew slide from KSC Director Cabana's presentation today; appears to be as expected. Uncrewed Boeing and SpaceX flights in August, crewed in November and December, respectively. More details in photo.

Boeing pad abort in April.
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?
It seems to be the schedule. No question mark needed.
« Last Edit: 03/20/2018 04:17 PM by russianhalo117 »

Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #506 on: 03/20/2018 05:26 PM »
Tweet from Emre Kelly:
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Updated commercial crew slide from KSC Director Cabana's presentation today; appears to be as expected. Uncrewed Boeing and SpaceX flights in August, crewed in November and December, respectively. More details in photo.

Boeing pad abort in April.
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?
It seems to be the schedule. No question mark needed.

Weren't they supported to reuse the DM-1 capsule for the abort test? This seems strange...
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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #507 on: 03/20/2018 06:08 PM »
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?
It seems to be the schedule. No question mark needed.

The publicly presented CC schedules can be months out of date.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #508 on: 03/20/2018 10:26 PM »
Tweet from Emre Kelly:
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Updated commercial crew slide from KSC Director Cabana's presentation today; appears to be as expected. Uncrewed Boeing and SpaceX flights in August, crewed in November and December, respectively. More details in photo.

Boeing pad abort in April.
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?

Slide is not accurate.  In-flight abort is still slated to occur between Demo-1 and Demo-2.  Someone just forgot to update the slide.  In-flight abort was May 2018 when Demo-1 was April 2018.  Now that Demo-1 has slipped to August, in-flight abort has moved concurrently.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #509 on: 03/21/2018 08:52 AM »
SpaceX in-flight abort in May?
It seems to be the schedule. No question mark needed.

The publicly presented CC schedules can be months out of date.
In fact, they are months out of date, as explained by ChrisG above. Also: the Boeing pad abort is not currently planned in April.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #510 on: 03/26/2018 06:13 PM »
So is Boeing on track to meet the Aug launch date, or is there some behind the scenes issue not mentioned on those slides that's going to realistically push the date back another month(s)? 

Almost seems to be good to be true--I keep expecting another major slip. 

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #511 on: 03/26/2018 11:51 PM »
The slides from the March 26, 2018 CCP program update

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #512 on: 03/27/2018 07:05 AM »
The slides from the March 26, 2018 CCP program update

Please note: the status update for Starliner and Crew Dragon describes the status per late February, 2018.
Meaning that the slides are already a month out-of-date, given that things are moving very quickly for both CCP providers.


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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #513 on: 03/27/2018 08:35 AM »
The slides from the March 26, 2018 CCP program update

Please note: the status update for Starliner and Crew Dragon describes the status per late February, 2018.
Meaning that the slides are already a month out-of-date, given that things are moving very quickly for both CCP providers.

Parts were also from late January.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #514 on: 03/27/2018 08:51 AM »
The slides from the March 26, 2018 CCP program update

Please note: the status update for Starliner and Crew Dragon describes the status per late February, 2018.
Meaning that the slides are already a month out-of-date, given that things are moving very quickly for both CCP providers.

Parts were also from late January.
Yes sir, so those parts are even more out-of-date.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #515 on: 04/01/2018 04:28 PM »
I donít get it...we keep being told here the schedules are out of date, and that major slips are going to occur. But, every official communication coming out from Leuders and others recently are continuing to stick with the official dates for this year, including some only a few days old. Are the certification concerns, raised previously, overblown, or what is going on? Contractors say they are tracking right on schedule.

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #516 on: 04/01/2018 07:41 PM »
I donít get it...we keep being told here the schedules are out of date, and that major slips are going to occur. But, every official communication coming out from Leuders and others recently are continuing to stick with the official dates for this year, including some only a few days old. Are the certification concerns, raised previously, overblown, or what is going on? Contractors say they are tracking right on schedule.
Politics. Everything is officially on schedule, until it isnít.
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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #517 on: 04/02/2018 06:17 PM »
An update on commercial crew:


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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #518 on: 04/03/2018 03:59 AM »
An update on commercial crew:

It would be great if we have some context for this: who, where, when, etc

Also the video category is "Comedy"?

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Re: Commercial Crew Schedule Analysis
« Reply #519 on: 04/03/2018 04:33 AM »
It would be great if we have some context for this: who, where, when, etc

Also the video category is "Comedy"?

Who: Steve Stich, NASA Deputy Manager of Flight Development and Operations for the Commercial Crew Program.
Where: Boeing's C3PF
When: Today during CRS-14 festivities (2018-04-02)

Can't help you with the Comedy.  Maybe the uploader has a dry wit.

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