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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #60 on: 06/12/2018 10:20 AM »
According to their launch manifest for the Arion 1, they are charging ~1M$ for a suborbital flight with a nominal payload of 100 kg. Is it worth to pay 10,000 $/kg for a +4 minutes of microgravity? It is not even orbital.  :-\

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #61 on: 06/13/2018 08:47 PM »
A new entry on Daniel Marin's blog (in Spanish) summarizing what's already on the User's guide. However there's a little bit of new info at the end which I'll quote here:

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With the Arion 1, PLD Space wants to gain enough technical and commercial experience before going forward with Arion 2's design, an bigger orbital microlauncher. It seems that the Arion 2 will finally have 2 stages (they were pondering whether to add a third stage) and multiple engines on the first stage. This rocket will use technologies originally created for the Arion 1, including various of the recovery techniques. By the way, if you're of those who think that Arion sounds similar to Ariane, don't worry, because Raśl Torres - one of the CEO's of the company - has told me that they have the intention to change its name soon to avoid any confusion.

http://danielmarin.naukas.com/2018/06/13/pld-space-presentando-el-arion-1/

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #62 on: 06/13/2018 11:08 PM »
According to their launch manifest for the Arion 1, they are charging ~1M$ for a suborbital flight with a nominal payload of 100 kg. Is it worth to pay 10,000 $/kg for a +4 minutes of microgravity? It is not even orbital.  :-\
AFAIK those cost are below average for suborbital rockets. Currently in Europe all scientific rockets are military surplus or imported from the North America, Brazil or Japan.
But indeed it's expansive. They assume about 10 annual launches.
Note watch out for July 16th. 😁

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #63 on: 06/14/2018 09:21 PM »
Note watch out for July 16th. 😁
I think I know why. PM?

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #64 on: 06/18/2018 10:04 AM »
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@PLD_Space and @TelespazioVEGAD sign MoU to provide suborbital flight opportunities from Europe on-board ARION 1
Source.
« Last Edit: 06/18/2018 10:04 AM by Kosmos2001 »

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #65 on: 08/06/2018 12:16 PM »
New test stand for the full Arion-1 first stage, with a full-blown underground exhaust deflector, is taking shape in Teruel Airport.

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Known as T2 bench, this new facility at @TeruelAirport will help us to qualify the complete flight vehicle for our first space launch attempt next year.This is a huge step forward for @PLD_Space and our #Microlauncher space program.


Full press release here: https://twitter.com/PLD_Space/status/1026417646139523073
« Last Edit: 08/06/2018 12:36 PM by eeergo »
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« Last Edit: 10/03/2018 01:21 PM by Kosmos2001 »

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #70 on: 10/03/2018 03:25 PM »
They are progressing slowly but steadily.

Re: PLD Space
« Reply #71 on: 10/03/2018 04:53 PM »
GNC: outsourced to GMV
Recovery: outsourced to Airborne
Structures: outsourced to Aciturri
Nosecones: outsourced to Ruag
Launch site: outsourced to CSG

It's more like a PC "manufacturer" who just assembles components, not clear what they do in-house at this point.

And not a very low cost model either...

I think "outsourced" does not always have the same meaning here. I am not sure that they outsource the design of the structures, for example, I think they just outsource the production of them.

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #72 on: 10/03/2018 07:37 PM »
And for example, GMV and Aciturri both are investors in PLD, you can "say" this production are "make in house" ;)
« Last Edit: 10/03/2018 07:57 PM by Tywin »


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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #74 on: 11/06/2018 05:41 PM »
Going for Falcon-1 performance and name changing. Some months ago he explained in a podcast that ARION is so close to Ariane that ESA or some European entity requested them to change it.

https://twitter.com/RaulTorresPLD/status/1059871089646542849

https://twitter.com/RaulTorresPLD/status/1059877373519319041

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #75 on: 11/13/2018 08:43 AM »
« Last Edit: 11/13/2018 08:55 AM by Kosmos2001 »

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #76 on: 11/17/2018 06:08 PM »

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #77 on: 11/18/2018 06:53 AM »
Interesting deck. But do I read it right that they moved from 150kg to 300kg class? In other words they have completely re-designed the second launcher Arion 2 to be much bigger?

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Re: PLD Space
« Reply #79 on: 11/21/2018 08:41 AM »
Interesting deck. But do I read it right that they moved from 150kg to 300kg class? In other words they have completely re-designed the second launcher Arion 2 to be much bigger?

Yes. They are aiming for Class 1 (> 200 kg) satellites.

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