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Photoshop? I've enhanced the image which is an overall purplish colour, while the sign is more orange coloured. I don't see a reflection of the pole on the ground, lilke I can see with the side rails. There's also no shadow behind the sign.

1 No Stephen. The carnival sign is real. It’s the rest of this so called “manned spaceflight” stuff that’s photoshopped. Next thing you’re going to tell us is people really walked on the Moon. 😉

2 Even photoshopping in the carnival ride sign is sufficient “poking the bear”. Do you think Musk would have someone carry the sign through KSC and up the FSS?

3 Nice find jpo234. Google reverse image search is our friend.

4 Repeat: It never pays to explain a joke.

And before this goes further into the realm of the party thread, Happy New Year and best wishes to all.😁
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New Article up on ArsTechnica:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/01/spacex-demo-flight-a-month-away-will-be-especially-dangerous-musk-says/

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SpaceX demo flight a month away, will be “especially dangerous,” Musk says
"Early flights are especially dangerous, as there’s a lot of new hardware."

-Eric Berger

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I wonder if the launch will push past the net than February announcement?
My interpretation of Elon's tweet ... "about a month away" means early feb now for DM-1. Darn it.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1081459477100941313

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About a month away from the first orbital test flight of crew Dragon

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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2019/01/10/spacex-demo-1-launch-update/
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NASA and SpaceX are continuing to work on the activities leading toward the Demo-1, uncrewed flight test to the International Space Station. NASA and SpaceX are now targeting no earlier than February for the launch of Demo-1 to complete hardware testing and joint reviews. NASA and SpaceX will confirm a new target date after coordination with the Eastern Range and the International Space Station Program.

Author Anna Heiney
Posted on January 10, 2019
Categories Commercial Spaceflight, International Space Station, Kennedy Space Center, NASA, SpaceX

So how is it possible that someone at NASA is even posting during the shutdown, never mind “continuing to work on the activities leading towards the Demo-1”?

This would be great if true.

Edit: link added, quote corrected
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2019/01/10/spacex-demo-1-launch-update/
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NASA and SpaceX are continuing to work on the activities leading toward the Demo-1, uncrewed flight test to the International Space Station. NASA and SpaceX are now targeting no earlier than February for the launch of Demo-1 to complete hardware testing and joint reviews. NASA and SpaceX will confirm a new target date after coordination with the Eastern Range and the International Space Station Program.

Author Anna Heiney
Posted on January 10, 2019
Categories Commercial Spaceflight, International Space Station, Kennedy Space Center, NASA, SpaceX

So how is it possible that someone at NASA is even posting during the shutdown, never mind “continuing to work on the activities leading towards the Demo-1”?

This would be great if true.

Edit: link added, quote corrected

Anna Heiney is KSC's lead Public Affairs Writer. Per her LinkedIn profile, she does not work directly for NASA, she works for ASRC Federal, which is a government contractor, but it is owned by an Alaskan native American tribe, so I would presume she's not affected by the shutdown.
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2019/01/10/spacex-demo-1-launch-update/
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NASA and SpaceX are continuing to work on the activities leading toward the Demo-1, uncrewed flight test to the International Space Station. NASA and SpaceX are now targeting no earlier than February for the launch of Demo-1 to complete hardware testing and joint reviews. NASA and SpaceX will confirm a new target date after coordination with the Eastern Range and the International Space Station Program.

Author Anna Heiney
Posted on January 10, 2019
Categories Commercial Spaceflight, International Space Station, Kennedy Space Center, NASA, SpaceX

So how is it possible that someone at NASA is even posting during the shutdown, never mind “continuing to work on the activities leading towards the Demo-1”?

This would be great if true.

Anna Heiney is KSC's lead Public Affairs Writer. Per her LinkedIn profile, she does not work directly for NASA, she works for ASRC Federal, which is a government contractor, but it is owned by an Alaskan native American tribe, so I would presume she's not affected by the shutdown.

That’s excellent internet sleuthing, but it begs the question of what she is posting about and why, even how.
Not only are support contractors not being allowed to work at NASA centers and sites, but they have little to no chance of getting the back pay that federal workers always have gotten after past shutdowns.
And still, what is the “continuing work” of which she posts?
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I am a staff writer for a high school newspaper, I am attempting to write a news article on the DM-1 mission. However, the shutdown has complicated things obviously. If you could guess, would the launch occur probably mid-February or early February if one could guess?
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I am a staff writer for a high school newspaper, I am attempting to write a news article on the DM-1 mission. However, the shutdown has complicated things obviously. If you could guess, would the launch occur probably mid-February or early February if one could guess?

It's entirely dependent on what NASA gets funding to reopen. And that is dependent on when President Trump decides to make a deal with the House and Senate.

The more interesting question to me is how soon after NASA opens back up that SpaceX will be ready to launch. SpaceX had thought they would be ready by mid-January, so assuming the shutdown is already affecting the NASA side of the activities necessary to support the DM-1 launch, how much time does NASA need to catch up?

Other complications are also the Visiting Vehicle schedule, and there are times during the ISS orbit where no vehicle fly because of the orientation of the ISS orbit to the Sun - I forget what that is called, but these are all factors to be considered with every flight.
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I am a staff writer for a high school newspaper, I am attempting to write a news article on the DM-1 mission. However, the shutdown has complicated things obviously. If you could guess, would the launch occur probably mid-February or early February if one could guess?

We don't know.

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[SpacePolicyOnline] SpaceX Assessing Impacts of Government Shutdown on Commercial Launches
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Asked whether the shutdown was fully or partially responsible for the delays, SpaceX spokeswoman Eva Behrend told SpacePolicyOnline.com today that “SpaceX is assessing any impacts of the partial government shutdown to our commercial launches. NASA continues to support Commercial Crew Program operations as we move toward our first demonstration mission of Crew Dragon next month.”

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1083426862171340805
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Good report Marcia. From my limited insight on this, the majority of the delay is due to technical issues.  But as you say, difficult to determine for sure.

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I am a staff writer for a high school newspaper, I am attempting to write a news article on the DM-1 mission. However, the shutdown has complicated things obviously. If you could guess, would the launch occur probably mid-February or early February if one could guess?

And some other info:

https://spacenews.com/nasa-delays-spacex-commercial-crew-test-flight-to-february/
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Other complications are also the Visiting Vehicle schedule, and there are times during the ISS orbit where no vehicle fly because of the orientation of the ISS orbit to the Sun -
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I forget what that is called
, but these are all factors to be considered with every flight.

High beta?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_angle
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I am a staff writer for a high school newspaper, I am attempting to write a news article on the DM-1 mission.

Joseph, if you could, please post a link to your article in this discussion thread when it is published?  I think many members here will be interested to read an article written by a fellow NSF member.

Good luck!
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Yeah! I actually often write space articles for the school newspaper! Here is a couple links to my previous space articles:
ISS 20th anniversary and MS-10:
https://pfhstheroar.com/6736/news/international-cooperation-continues-on-board-the-international-space-station-in-spite-of-the-recent-soyuz-ms-10-launch-abort/
InSight touchdown:
https://pfhstheroar.com/6805/news/our-insight-into-mars/
Voyager-2:
https://pfhstheroar.com/6895/news/voyager-2-enters-interstellar-space/
VSS Unity:
https://pfhstheroar.com/6917/news/virgin-galactics-v-s-s-unity-reaches-space/
I will share with you on this thread my article about DM-1 too!
Enjoy


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Demo-1 is targeting no earlier than Feb. 9 for launch, a source at KSC tells me.
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Ben Cooper's site seems to agree with that date and also gives an approximate launch time. I hope it is not delayed again, a (approximately) noon launch sounds nice for light conditions :)

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral will launch the first Crew Dragon space capsule on an uncrewed demonstration mission, DM-1, to the ISS from pad 39A on February 9 at the very  earliest. The launch time is around 11am EST if this timeframe and gets 22-26 minutes earlier each day. The launch window is instantaneous.

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Other complications are also the Visiting Vehicle schedule, and there are times during the ISS orbit where no vehicle fly because of the orientation of the ISS orbit to the Sun -
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I forget what that is called
, but these are all factors to be considered with every flight.

High beta?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_angle


And just for consideration, the next high Beta angle period is in February. The 13-19. 
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Other complications are also the Visiting Vehicle schedule, and there are times during the ISS orbit where no vehicle fly because of the orientation of the ISS orbit to the Sun -
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I forget what that is called
, but these are all factors to be considered with every flight.

High beta?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_angle


And just for consideration, the next high Beta angle period is in February. The 13-19.

So if the launch slips past February 13th, the next opportunity would be on February 20th, right?

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Wouldn't the Beta angle restrictions apply to arrival dates instead of launch dates?

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True... If they're going with a 2-day rendezvous then the latest launch date before the high beta angle period would then be on February 10th (just one day after the supposedly current launch date with docking on February 12th). The earliest launch date after the high beta angle period would then be February 18th (with docking on the 20th).
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