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This is the mission thread for DM-1.  BFR/Starship conversation doesn't belong here.  Propulsive landing discussion doesn't belong here.

Hence why I didn't elaborate any further in reply #298.

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Here you go:

https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/180712-spacex-768x768.jpg

I'm not sure if this was before or after that photo, but I forgot about this glimpse of Crew Dragon at KSC at the 1:45 mark in this video!  I'm guessing that's likely the actual flight trunk mated to the capsule. 


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..., but I forgot about this glimpse of Crew Dragon at KSC at the 1:45 mark in this video!  I'm guessing that's likely the actual flight trunk mated to the capsule. 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoU5P2SSCho

Here are screenshots from 1:45 & 1:46.  Anyone here recognize the facility?

That video was posted on August 31.

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..., but I forgot about this glimpse of Crew Dragon at KSC at the 1:45 mark in this video!  I'm guessing that's likely the actual flight trunk mated to the capsule. 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoU5P2SSCho

Here are screenshots from 1:45 & 1:46.  Anyone here recognize the facility?

That video was posted on August 31.

Since there are no solar cells on the trunk yet, that was probably taken at the facility where the vacuum testing was completed.

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..., but I forgot about this glimpse of Crew Dragon at KSC at the 1:45 mark in this video!  I'm guessing that's likely the actual flight trunk mated to the capsule. 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoU5P2SSCho

Here are screenshots from 1:45 & 1:46.  Anyone here recognize the facility?

That video was posted on August 31.


That looks like the vacuum chamber at Plum Brook.  Dragon was up here for testing earlier this year.

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That looks like the vacuum chamber at Plum Brook.  Dragon was up here for testing earlier this year.

Thanks, makes sense, not sure why I assumed that was KSC.  Oh well, just gonna have to wait a bit longer for some new developments!  Has there been any word on whether instrumented dummies might be aboard the vehicle for DM-1?

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« Last Edit: 12/03/2018 06:29 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.
Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.

That crew will be on ISS in mid-2019.  I don't think trying to parse that statement is going to be terribly useful without more information.

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.

I agree with your conclusion but not your logic.
The Soyuz MS-12 crew will still be on the ISS at NASA's recently posted launch date for DM-2.
However, with Bridenstine hinting at unspecified delays, and the term "first launch" instead of a long winded description about "American astronauts launching from American soil on American rockets" and so on it's probably DM-1.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.

I agree with your conclusion but not your logic.
The Soyuz MS-12 crew will still be on the ISS at NASA's recently posted launch date for DM-2.
However, with Bridenstine hinting at unspecified delays, and the term "first launch" instead of a long winded description about "American astronauts launching from American soil on American rockets" and so on it's probably DM-1.

Soyuz MS-12 comes back in October so if there are no issues, they have a good chance of welcoming DM-2 to the station. From June to October that is 4 months of delays... Let's hope we don't get to that point.

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Couldn't agree more. It would be the death of the project and I think you're being a little generous to Nasa when you say a decade late. I suspect it would be a lot, lot more.


Thank God NASA isn‘t involved in Starship, and I bloody well hope it stays that way

Elon would be extremely well-advised to keep NASA folks away from any aspect of ITS/BFR/BFS/Starship, at all times.

Because if he doesn't it will either launch never at all or at least a decade late. Not to mention that it won't be financially viable due to all the "features" added to satisfy NASA's demands.

IMO Crew Dragon is what brings SpaceX on par with NASA and Starship will be the thing where SpaceX leaps beyond NASA.

If anyone at SpaceX would be silly enough to keep NASA in the lead, mankind in general, and SpaceX in particular, will never get to Mars. Ever.

Is there any point to this tedious NASA bashing. Something that hardly befits this forum and more worthy of the comments under a You Tube video or on a Reddit thread.
« Last Edit: 12/03/2018 07:41 pm by Star One »

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And the confusment lives on! Just now in the CRS-16 pre-launch briefing, Hans says they are still working towards a January launch and says everything is OK with the chutes

Also says every component for the mission is there at the cape

"The Starship has landed"

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.

I agree with your conclusion but not your logic.
The Soyuz MS-12 crew will still be on the ISS at NASA's recently posted launch date for DM-2.
However, with Bridenstine hinting at unspecified delays, and the term "first launch" instead of a long winded description about "American astronauts launching from American soil on American rockets" and so on it's probably DM-1.

Soyuz MS-12 comes back in October so if there are no issues, they have a good chance of welcoming DM-2 to the station. From June to October that is 4 months of delays... Let's hope we don't get to that point.

Seems unlikely they were talking about DM-1, since at the same time they were saying CRS-16 and DM-1 could overlap, and CRS-16 can't stay at ISS until Feb 28th. Right?

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It is DM-1. DM-2 won't fly until the middle of 2019.

I agree with your conclusion but not your logic.
The Soyuz MS-12 crew will still be on the ISS at NASA's recently posted launch date for DM-2.
However, with Bridenstine hinting at unspecified delays, and the term "first launch" instead of a long winded description about "American astronauts launching from American soil on American rockets" and so on it's probably DM-1.

Soyuz MS-12 comes back in October so if there are no issues, they have a good chance of welcoming DM-2 to the station. From June to October that is 4 months of delays... Let's hope we don't get to that point.

Seems unlikely they were talking about DM-1, since at the same time they were saying CRS-16 and DM-1 could overlap, and CRS-16 can't stay at ISS until Feb 28th. Right?

CRS-16 returns mid-January. The NASA press release talks in general about the Commercial Crew mission and not a specific one but Soyuz MS-11 press release also talked about that so don't panic, people, this is just a "hey, these people will be there while we do the commercial crew missions!".

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Michael Sheetz is reporting that the launch is now NET Jan. 17th.

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1070112522626306049

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I noted during the SpaceX webcast one of the SpaceX people said that DM-1 was still set for January. Guess the NASA admin decided it was OK to launch next month after all?
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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I noted during the SpaceX webcast one of the SpaceX people said that DM-1 was still set for January. Guess the NASA admin decided it was OK to launch next month after all?

He only said January was unlikely. "No Earlier Than" January and unlikely January are not contradictory. He said spring, which starts in March. Given that it is creeping up on February, that isn't a bad bet.
« Last Edit: 12/05/2018 06:47 pm by ncb1397 »

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B1051 spotted inside a McGregor hangar on October 17 :) I like to imagine that the inclusion was a sort of nod to fans, as they definitely did not have to include the core number in the in-focus frame.


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Interesting given Bridenstine’s reported recent remarks:

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1070674981359681536

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At the NAC HEO meeting, Bill Gerstenmaier says the SpaceX Demo-1 mission is planned “towards the end of January.”

Edit to add more detail:

https://twitter.com/stephenclark1/status/1070675246959771649

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MNASA’s Bill Gerstenmaier says SpaceX’s Demo-1 Crew Dragon mission is planned toward the end of January. Lots of reviews in the next couple of weeks, he tells the NASA Advisory Council’s HEO committee.
« Last Edit: 12/06/2018 01:13 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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