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#220
by
wjbarnett
on 11 Oct, 2018 14:04
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We also heard earlier that ISS ops scheduling (like for HTV and battery replacement) was a part of the delay for DM1, so perhaps now DM1 and other CC activities will get higher priority in that schedule. Don't know if at this point that could move anything left though.
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#221
by
clongton
on 11 Oct, 2018 16:14
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#222
by
theinternetftw
on 17 Oct, 2018 08:19
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Interesting talk coming from a Boeing employee at IAC. Here's a snippet from
a report by a reddit user who went to the conference:I also talked with a guy from Boeing for a bit, including talking about SpaceX. He said that he thinks that SpaceX will reach the ISS first, with their uncrewed demo mission, but that they will not dock, due to not all paperwork being done, and NASA not allowing them to dock, and that while they do paperwork, Boeing will reach the station first with humans on board.
That's, um, pretty specific.
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#223
by
jpo234
on 17 Oct, 2018 08:28
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Interesting talk coming from a Boeing employee at IAC. Here's a snippet from a report by a reddit user who went to the conference:
I also talked with a guy from Boeing for a bit, including talking about SpaceX. He said that he thinks that SpaceX will reach the ISS first, with their uncrewed demo mission, but that they will not dock, due to not all paperwork being done, and NASA not allowing them to dock, and that while they do paperwork, Boeing will reach the station first with humans on board.
That's, um, pretty specific.
Isn't DM-1 a NASA mission? Why would NASA launch a mission that it knows will not accomplish all the desired results?
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#224
by
woods170
on 17 Oct, 2018 12:03
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Interesting talk coming from a Boeing employee at IAC. Here's a snippet from a report by a reddit user who went to the conference:
I also talked with a guy from Boeing for a bit, including talking about SpaceX. He said that he thinks that SpaceX will reach the ISS first, with their uncrewed demo mission, but that they will not dock, due to not all paperwork being done, and NASA not allowing them to dock, and that while they do paperwork, Boeing will reach the station first with humans on board.
That's, um, pretty specific.
Isn't DM-1 a NASA mission? Why would NASA launch a mission that it knows will not accomplish all the desired results?
DM-1 is a CCP mission. And NASA would not allow it to launch when it doesn't stand a chance to accomplish all mission objectives, such as docking.
It would be a complete waste of the mission.
IMO, the quoted Boeing employee did some substantial "wishful thinking".
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#225
by
woods170
on 17 Oct, 2018 12:24
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Interesting talk coming from a Boeing employee at IAC. Here's a snippet from a report by a reddit user who went to the conference:
I also talked with a guy from Boeing for a bit, including talking about SpaceX. He said that he thinks that SpaceX will reach the ISS first, with their uncrewed demo mission, but that they will not dock, due to not all paperwork being done, and NASA not allowing them to dock, and that while they do paperwork, Boeing will reach the station first with humans on board.
That's, um, pretty specific.
Wishful thinking on part of the Boeing employee and loaded with (incorrect) assumptions.
From the same Reddit thread the same user mentioned the arguments the Boeing employee used to support his wishful thinking:
He mentioned SpaceX launching on the same day as they got the faa license (was Iridium 1) (against industry practices). them having only recently installed the CAA (might not be ready yet) and really early launch abort test (to catch media attention).
This goes to show just how out-of-touch-with-reality this supposed Boeing employee is. Just another s*cker who can't get his head around the fact that SpaceX does things very different from the rest of the industry.
1. Launching on the same day as getting the FAA license is not agains the law.
2. Just In Time (JIT) availability of the CAA is common to the way SpaceX is operating (based on Agile practices used in the IT industry).
3. Early launch abort test (which was in fact almost 2 years AFTER the originally planned date btw) is again common to the way SpaceX is operating (fail early to learn soonest - this is again based on Agile practices used in the IT industry).
The basic problem with this supposed Boeing employee is that he assumes that everybody in his industry must do the same things in the same way. And that is a massively stupid assumption on his part.
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#226
by
gongora
on 17 Oct, 2018 14:04
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Moved the recent posts on various abort tests to Commercial Crew discussion thread.
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#227
by
Roy_H
on 25 Oct, 2018 16:42
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There was a discussion a while back about the parachute cutters (releasing the parachute I think) on DM1 being manufactured by the same company as cargo versions but the crew versions starting with DM2 will be by a different manufacturer. There was some speculation that these would be changed out on DM1 to be the new manufacturer version. Was this done?
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#228
by
gongora
on 25 Oct, 2018 17:07
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There was a discussion a while back about the parachute cutters (releasing the parachute I think) on DM1 being manufactured by the same company as cargo versions but the crew versions starting with DM2 will be by a different manufacturer. There was some speculation that these would be changed out on DM1 to be the new manufacturer version. Was this done?
I haven't heard any further news on it, but the cutters were for the reefing lines on the parachutes.
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#229
by
gongora
on 25 Oct, 2018 19:09
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1829-EX-ST-2018 Launch from 39A NET Dec. 10, 2018
1831-EX-ST-2018 ASDS Landing
North 31 43 23 West 76 58 47
These appear to be the launch and landing communications permits for DM-1. The date is very much a NET, I would still expect January.
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#230
by
Scylla
on 27 Oct, 2018 00:41
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#231
by
Chris Bergin
on 29 Oct, 2018 14:07
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#232
by
AbuSimbel
on 08 Nov, 2018 14:43
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Kinda surprised nobody here has picked this update from this recent Gwynne interview, but she stated that DM-1 will be vertical on the pad by the end of the year.
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#233
by
biosehnsucht
on 08 Nov, 2018 22:37
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Which I take to mean almost certainly not launching before 2019..
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#234
by
Tomness
on 08 Nov, 2018 22:43
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Which I take to mean almost certainly not launching before 2019..
Fit Checks with Crew Dragon & F9. This thread has said its been January for awhile b/c ISS Vehicle Visition Schedule, Elon & Gwyne have said the Hardware would be ready by End Of Year. With Soyuz mishap just push every thing back.
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#235
by
Alexphysics
on 08 Nov, 2018 23:01
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Which I take to mean almost certainly not launching before 2019..
Fit Checks with Crew Dragon & F9. This thread has said its been January for awhile b/c ISS Vehicle Visition Schedule, Elon & Gwyne have said the Hardware would be ready by End Of Year. With Soyuz mishap just push every thing back.
Let's not forget we saw a FH on the pad in 2017 even though the launch was a month or so later. This obviously won't be the same in that sense but I'm leaned to think she refered to fit checks or even the static fire for DM-1 before this year ends which I'm sure it could be done.
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#236
by
Chris Bergin
on 09 Nov, 2018 18:16
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#237
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 14 Nov, 2018 16:32
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#238
by
litton4
on 16 Nov, 2018 10:28
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Looking at this picture from the Es'hail launch - doe it look like the crew arm doesn't clear the top of the TEL?
It it just an illusion, or will they remove that top part of the TEL for crew Dragon launches?
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#239
by
kevinof
on 16 Nov, 2018 11:40
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I'm sure SpaceX know how to measure the height of the arm, and no they will not remove anything from the TEL.
Looking at this picture from the Es'hail launch - doe it look like the crew arm doesn't clear the top of the TEL?
It it just an illusion, or will they remove that top part of the TEL for crew Dragon launches?
