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#40
by
guckyfan
on 19 Mar, 2015 12:54
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Still no official word (remember, it's a NASA mission - they need to announce it), but it seems obvious this is going to be the plan.
Does this mean we'll see a core swap, with the TurkmenistanSat core now being slotted in under Dragon? Will this affect core recovery attempts at all if so (i.e. does the core have leg mount points, will they be installed now, etc.)?
If the problem is in the factory, we may assume that all cores are affected.
Yes, but if they swap payload they either have to take the Turkmensat core out of the HIF and the CRS-6 core in or they have to swap no matter how they resolve the tank issue. Swapping cores means they lose a chance for landing again.
Going early april with whatever payload indicates that the issue is not that serious and they don't assume fixing it will take a month or longer as it looked for a short while.
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#41
by
abaddon
on 19 Mar, 2015 13:26
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I think what it means is that by the time SpaceX can feel confident that the anomaly is understood and they are safe to launch, the Turkmensat launch would interfere with CRS-6. So they will go ahead and launch the CRS-6 rocket first, followed by Turkmensat. I am sure Turkmensat owners are not thrilled by that, but it is not that huge a slip either. It also means that SpaceX will have another launch under their belt after discovering this anomaly, so maybe they consider it to be safer in trade.
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#42
by
abaddon
on 19 Mar, 2015 13:29
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Yes, but if they swap payload they either have to take the Turkmensat core out of the HIF and the CRS-6 core in or they have to swap no matter how they resolve the tank issue. Swapping cores means they lose a chance for landing again.
Regarding the bolded: do we have any reason to think that's a big deal? We know they have the ability to store at least two cores on-site. I don't see why that would matter.
Gwynn was quoted as saying SpaceX will attempt a landing on CRS-6, and that was around the same time this news came out. So it seems very likely that they are going to do just that.
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#43
by
guckyfan
on 19 Mar, 2015 15:23
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Yes, but if they swap payload they either have to take the Turkmensat core out of the HIF and the CRS-6 core in or they have to swap no matter how they resolve the tank issue. Swapping cores means they lose a chance for landing again.
Regarding the bolded: do we have any reason to think that's a big deal? We know they have the ability to store at least two cores on-site. I don't see why that would matter.
Gwynn was quoted as saying SpaceX will attempt a landing on CRS-6, and that was around the same time this news came out. So it seems very likely that they are going to do just that.
I have no idea wether or not this is a big deal. I just noted the fact. My main point was, if they swap the cores they lose the chance for landing CRS-6. Probably I made that not very clear.
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#44
by
llanitedave
on 19 Mar, 2015 16:12
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I know the previous core swap made it impossible to put legs on the swapped core, but doesn't it depend on timing? I was under the impression the basic fittings are all in place either way. If there's enough advance notice, I thought that they would be able to put the legs on the swapped core.
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#45
by
rcoppola
on 19 Mar, 2015 16:26
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I know the previous core swap made it impossible to put legs on the swapped core, but doesn't it depend on timing? I was under the impression the basic fittings are all in place either way. If there's enough advance notice, I thought that they would be able to put the legs on the swapped core.
The hardware may not be the issue with this but the software? I would think each avionics package is tailored to a particular return profile. I don't really know the process enough to understand if this would also add to the complexities and timing of a swap, so to speak?
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#46
by
ElGuapoGuano1
on 19 Mar, 2015 18:52
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Has not been confirmed here, so I won't believe it til I see it, however...
AmericaSpace @AmericaSpace 28m28 minutes ago
The Eastern Range has APPROVED Friday April 10 as the launch date for #SpaceX CRS-6. Window opens at 5:42 pm EDT🚀
http://www.americaspace.com/?page_id=56094
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#47
by
rpapo
on 19 Mar, 2015 19:55
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Has not been confirmed here, so I won't believe it til I see it, however...
AmericaSpace @AmericaSpace 28m28 minutes ago
The Eastern Range has APPROVED Friday April 10 as the launch date for #SpaceX CRS-6. Window opens at 5:42 pm EDT🚀 http://www.americaspace.com/?page_id=56094
The first landing attempt in daylight since ORBCOMM.
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#48
by
deruch
on 20 Mar, 2015 03:17
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Still no official word (remember, it's a NASA mission - they need to announce it), but it seems obvious this is going to be the plan.
Does this mean we'll see a core swap, with the TurkmenistanSat core now being slotted in under Dragon? Will this affect core recovery attempts at all if so (i.e. does the core have leg mount points, will they be installed now, etc.)?
If the problem is in the factory, we may assume that all cores are affected.
One could, but that wouldn't yet be supported by the available information. One could just as easily assume that the problem was detected in only a certain batch and CRS-6's parts may not be from the same run. etc. At this point, we don't have enough public information to reliably guess exactly what the issue was and how widespread its effects are.
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#49
by
Baranquilla
on 20 Mar, 2015 10:02
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One could, but that wouldn't yet be supported by the available information. One could just as easily assume that the problem was detected in only a certain batch and CRS-6's parts may not be from the same run. etc. At this point, we don't have enough public information to reliably guess exactly what the issue was and how widespread its effects are.
Your logic is more sound than mine.
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#50
by
JosephAbbott
on 21 Mar, 2015 02:02
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#51
by
Kabloona
on 21 Mar, 2015 02:10
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#52
by
averagespacejoe
on 21 Mar, 2015 05:41
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Here is a patch picture thanks reddit!
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#53
by
averagespacejoe
on 21 Mar, 2015 05:42
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6 stars easy enough for the CRS missions so far and even some acknowledgement of the ASDS off the coast of Florida!
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#54
by
Kabloona
on 21 Mar, 2015 13:41
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6 stars easy enough for the CRS missions so far and even some acknowledgement of the ASDS off the coast of Florida!
Barge on the patch means this time's the charm!
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#55
by
Zardar
on 21 Mar, 2015 19:36
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Here is a patch picture thanks reddit!
Hm, which ATV is that supposed to be docked to the ISS?
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#56
by
S.Paulissen
on 21 Mar, 2015 23:56
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#57
by
Baranquilla
on 22 Mar, 2015 00:13
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Maybe they designed the patch first, way back when CRS-6 was supposed to be in 2014. This does not explain the Asds pin though.. Unless they thought a year ago they'd be ready for a good landing right about CRS-6
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#58
by
darkenfast
on 22 Mar, 2015 02:17
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I don't think that's a ATV. I think it's the older arrays on the Russian segment that give that appearance.
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#59
by
ZachS09
on 22 Mar, 2015 02:35
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It's definitely an ATV; the solar arrays are arranged in a cross/X pattern.